VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Kodek]

There's also the Museum event the night before. Which makes me curious how L&P will structure the event considering we know that Jason and Haru wont play a significant part.

Oh, and concerning the horse-riding event on playable day 15, it might be poignant to point out that L&P will be introducing yet another new character with Patricia's friend Zoe, which may just be for this event.

If i have to guess, the museum event will be an offer or a even more direct approach, like Ellie's first few shower scenes.
Sophia will get intimate with Patricia at the museum and her sister will offer/ask more. At the ranch we can either accept it or refuse her.

Maybe it will be only with her, maybe it will be a threesome with Carl. But i think something along this lines can happen as they already had plenty of bonding and Patricia IS the most accertive of the LIs. That's something.

 

[Kodek]

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.

Well, Ellie herself admited that she have a 'thing' for well endowed guys. That's more or less the only reason she is with Logan right now.

But of course, she never did go all the way with any boyfriend, it's entirely possible that it's trust issues or that this so called attraction is not so big as Ellie thinks. It's left to see what will unfold.

 

[Alley_Cat]

We are still only on playable day 12 of 30 and have had just 1 of, I believe, 4 or 5 events on this Dylan/Ellie side story, so there is a long way to go and more than enough time to build something between them in a way that works and makes sense (hopefully moreso than Dylan's dumbass blackmail shit).

I honestly do think it will lead to that just as I believe that there will be action between all sorts of different combinations of the family members (Liam excluded); Sophia/Ellie, Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Patricia, Ellie/Dylan, Ellie/Patricia, Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan, Sophia/Ellie/Patricia, Sophia/Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan/Patricia.



Them going off alone to some secluded spot for some sisterly "brokebacking" would be very nice.

Despite Patricia saying point blank that she doesn't get any dick besides Carl's near her pussy? What part of that makes you think any Dylan/Patricia/(others) event is even remotely possible?

 

[Kodek]

Despite Patricia saying point blank that she doesn't get any dick besides Carl's near her pussy? What part of that makes you think any Dylan/Patricia/(others) event is even remotely possible?

Yeah. She acts slutty but i do believe she is loyal to Carl... at least a lot more loyal than Sophia nowadays.

For a scene to happen with a guy, Carl need to be involved somehow methinks. We have swinging, foursome etc etc

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

And Joyce is one of the hottest milfs I've seen in an adult game

And Isabel pre-haircut is smoking hot.

I am not yet 100% sold on Midnight Paradise's story plot but put up with it because of Joyce and Isabel.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Well, Ellie herself admited that she have a 'thing' for well endowed guys. That's more or less the only reason she is with Logan right now.

But of course, she never did go all the way with any boyfriend, it's entirely possible that it's trust issues or that this so called attraction is not so big as Ellie thinks. It's left to see what will unfold.

But how much of that is just image? In the earlier shower event, Ellie talks about possibly dating the MVP of her school's basketball team (Aaron). Her hesitation though is that he is a moron. And Logan is an international underwear model. Jules is an international prima donna, having performed in Paris and St Petersburg. All three are successful people.

And it's image that she cares about, which is why she pretends she's not a virgin, and doesn't want the fact that she is to get out.

Yeah. She acts slutty but i do believe she is loyal to Carl... at least a lot more loyal than Sophia nowadays.

For a scene to happen with a guy, Carl need to be involved somehow methinks. We have swinging, foursome etc etc

I don't believe Carl and Patricia will be involved in a swinging event, purely because of how jealous Liam is of Carl - richer, younger wife, etc. That Sophia might end up in a threesome, there's no evidence for it, but Patricia does point out at the gym that Carl finds her attractive, so maybe Patricia has plans. More might be revealed on playable days 14 and 15.

I had previously thought that if the prison event didn't go as planned and Sophia loses the house, that she'd move into the Turner mansion, but it now looks like simply turning up to the prison like we're forced to is enough to save the mansion from Morello.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Despite Patricia saying point blank that she doesn't get any dick besides Carl's near her pussy? What part of that makes you think any Dylan/Patricia/(others) event is even remotely possible?

The yoga scene, obviously. The way she teases and kinda flirts with him.

Perhaps she just doesn't want random guys she doesn't know but she'll make an exception for family.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Thanks for your response. And for not dismissing my question just because "I don't like Dylan". Is there a canon Dylan route?

So now we just need someone who plays the Sam route to speak up.

I'd forgotten about "garden gnome". Cheers, I'll add that to the list.

Considering Ellie is too afraid to use her dildo, what makes you think her first time will be with a dick, real or not?

Alley Cat, it is rare when I disagree with a person. For that to happen, that person must choose to be a hater/troll facepalmer etc.

You and I might disagree about story lines or characters but I respect your position - you can usually back it up with reasons why you hold that position or you simply state something as a desire.

Both are equally valid.

I think that there is room in L&P's AWAM universe for the vast majority of us to get the content we want and avoid the content we don't want.

Sometimes I see 'logic' that isn't - at least in my view - and I will offer my own 'logic' - as a counterpoint.

We have members of the community who are invested and those who visit to troll or drop the 'still no sex' bomb, having skipped through the update in 5 minutes...

I am happy to engage and agree/disagree with the first and generally ignore the second.

Cheers!

 

[Old Dog]

But how much of that is just image? In the earlier shower event, Ellie talks about possibly dating the MVP of her school's basketball team (Aaron). Her hesitation though is that he is a moron. And Logan is an international underwear model. Jules is an international prima donna, having performed in Paris and St Petersburg. All three are successful people.

And it's image that she cares about, which is why she pretends she's not a virgin, and doesn't want the fact that she is to get out.

I don't believe Carl and Patricia will be involved in a swinging event, purely because of how jealous Liam is of Carl - richer, younger wife, etc. That Sophia might end up in a threesome, there's no evidence for it, but Patricia does point out at the gym that Carl finds her attractive, so maybe Patricia has plans. More might be revealed on playable days 14 and 15.

I had previously thought that if the prison event didn't go as planned and Sophia loses the house, that she'd move into the Turner mansion, but it now looks like simply turning up to the prison like we're forced to is enough to save the mansion from Morello.

I agree with the prison visit theory as I refused and agreed to Larry's request and also refused Liam sex on day day 16 and 18 just to see if it affects the outcome of the visit.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I also believe that Ellie will lose her virginity with either Sophia (using a dildo.. a strap-on looks too much for two newcomers in the lesbian world) or Dylan (if the event when he fixed her computer was really the beginning of the path that will take them to the double incest we mentioned a few days ago, and it would require an active/leading role of Sophia there).

If I was a betting man then IMO the two most likely options to first have sex with Ellie are Sophia and Julia. For me Dylan would be 3rd choice out of two. i.e. I cant see Dylan being Ellie's FIRST sexual partner, but if, and it still is a big if, Dylan's relationship with Ellie continues to improve, I could see Dylan being Ellie's SECOND sexual partner.

Again that is considering the fact that Ellie has so far trusted just TWO people with the truth about her virginity. Sophia and Julia.

 

[Kodek]

But how much of that is just image? In the earlier shower event, Ellie talks about possibly dating the MVP of her school's basketball team (Aaron). Her hesitation though is that he is a moron. And Logan is an international underwear model. Jules is an international prima donna, having performed in Paris and St Petersburg. All three are successful people.

And it's image that she cares about, which is why she pretends she's not a virgin, and doesn't want the fact that she is to get out.

I don't believe Carl and Patricia will be involved in a swinging event, purely because of how jealous Liam is of Carl - richer, younger wife, etc. That Sophia might end up in a threesome, there's no evidence for it, but Patricia does point out at the gym that Carl finds her attractive, so maybe Patricia has plans. More might be revealed on playable days 14 and 15.

I had previously thought that if the prison event didn't go as planned and Sophia loses the house, that she'd move into the Turner mansion, but it now looks like simply turning up to the prison like we're forced to is enough to save the mansion from Morello.

About Ellie. She is very shallow, probably was even more before coming to the new house. Ellie lives on her image/mask mostly of the time, she only removes it and shows insecurity and uncertainty with people she trusts (Jules and Sophia, basically). I remember that she even mentioned to Sophia that the captain of the cheerleaders shouldn't be a virgin, that's probably one of the reasons she started putting on a mask.

So yeah, i believe we saw more of Ellie's true character on the last shower scene alone than in the majority of her interactions in the game.

Yeah, it's sad that Liam is so... Liam. And about the Turner Mansion, i still hold grudges against L&P not letting us stay at Patricia and Carl's mansion with the rest of the LI instead of going home to watch football and be druged and abused.

 

[Old Dog]

If I was a betting man then IMO the two most likely options to first have sex with Ellie are Sophia and Julia. For me Dylan would be 3rd choice out of two. i.e. I cant see Dylan being Ellie's FIRST sexual partner, but if, and it still is a big if, Dylan's relationship with Ellie continues to improve, I could see Dylan being Ellie's SECOND sexual partner.

Again that is considering the fact that Ellie has so far trusted just TWO people with the truth about her virginity. Sophia and Julia.

I would say that Julia maybe the first as Sophia will not have the worries(as she would with Ellie) as with Julia not being her daughter.

 

[Kodek]

The yoga scene, obviously. The way she teases and kinda flirts with him.

Perhaps she just doesn't want random guys she doesn't know but she'll make an exception for family.

It could be. But it's Patricia we are talking about, she tease and flirts with anything if it's cute or hot enough. (Yeah, anything. She flirts with her DEagle, i just know it)

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

It could be. But it's Patricia we are talking about, she tease and flirts with anything if it's cute or hot enough. (Yeah, anything. She flirts with her DEagle, i just know it)

If Patricia saw her reflection in a mirror she'd flirt with that too.

 

[Alley_Cat]

If Patricia saw her reflection in a mirror she'd flirt with that too.

Or if she had a twin sister. Which do you reckon would be the evil twin?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It could be. But it's Patricia we are talking about, she tease and flirts with anything if it's cute or hot enough. (Yeah, anything. She flirts with her DEagle, i just know it)

True, but it depends on what the deal is with her only being with Carl and not other guys despite all the fliriting with him. Could be that she's a faithful wife who just enjoys the thrill of flirting (doubtful), or maybe they are relatively open but she's just not been interested/excited by any other guys. If it's the latter, then a chance to do something with her nephew might just be something that excites her, especially if she finds out about him and Sophia when things start to escalate between them.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

There's also the Museum event the night before. Which makes me curious how L&P will structure the event considering we know that Jason and Haru wont play a significant part.

Oh, and concerning the horse-riding event on playable day 15, it might be poignant to point out that L&P will be introducing yet another new character with Patricia's friend Zoe, which may just be for this event.

I want to click facepalm for that, not because of your post or anything you have said Alley_Cat, but just at the thought that L&P is introducing yet more seemingly unnecssary characters at this late stage.

If I remember correctly, we are roughly two and a half weeks into the storyline, before the upcoming time jumps. Jason and Haru would have been fine as characters that we meet briefly IF we had met them for the museum visit say a week- ten days into the story. It would have emphasized Sophia's artistic liking and could have been some great early harmless flirting. Because they were nt family members or students, then Sophia could have gone a bit further with them earlier than she could with the other young men in her life.

Now when Jason and Haru show up, it will feel as if just slowing down the storyline and delaying what we hope is the inevitable.....

I reserve the right to change my opinion if Zoe turns out to be smoking hot!!

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I want to click facepalm for that, not because of your post or anything you have said Alley_Cat, but just at the thought that L&P is introducing yet more seemingly unnecssary characters at this late stage.

If I remember correctly, we are roughly two and a half weeks into the storyline, before the upcoming time jumps. Jason and Haru would have been fine as characters that we meet briefly IF we had met them for the museum visit say a week- ten days into the story. It would have emphasized Sophia's artistic liking and could have been some great early harmless flirting. Because they were nt family members or students, then Sophia could have gone a bit further with them earlier than she could with the other young men in her life.

Now when Jason and Haru show up, it will feel as if just slowing down the storyline and delaying what we hope is the inevitable.....

I reserve the right to change my opinion if Zoe turns out to be smoking hot!!

The only way I see Zoey being important is either:

A) She serves as the riding coach for Sophia and that's it
B) Sophia catches Zoey eating out Patricia and Patricia catches Sophia watching which leads to them doing something with each other afterwards.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

We are still only on playable day 12 of 30 and have had just 1 of, I believe, 4 or 5 events on this Dylan/Ellie side story, so there is a long way to go and more than enough time to build something between them in a way that works and makes sense (hopefully moreso than Dylan's dumbass blackmail shit).

I honestly do think it will lead to that just as I believe that there will be action between all sorts of different combinations of the family members (Liam excluded); Sophia/Ellie, Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Patricia, Ellie/Dylan, Ellie/Patricia, Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan, Sophia/Ellie/Patricia, Sophia/Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan/Patricia.



Them going off alone to some secluded spot for some sisterly "brokebacking" would be very nice.

I like the thought of many of those sexual combinations, but I am not sure how many we will actually see. I can see Patricia teasing Dylan but I am not sure she would actually have sex with him and break the no-dick agreement that she has with her husband.

Throw into the mix Amber/Sam/Julia and Alyssa/Zac to the above and we have got some great options for sexual pairings, but we may have to rely on Fan Art for the majority of them.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The only way I see Zoey being important is either:

A) She serves as the riding coach for Sophia and that's it
B) Sophia catches Zoey eating out Patricia and Patricia catches Sophia watching which leads to them doing something with each other afterwards.

I thought Alyssa was Sophia's riding coach