VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Of all the ideas about speeding things up, I think this may be the best yet. If L&P were looking at things in much larger chunks it might actually help to streamline things - realize they don't need so much detail (dialogue and inner monologue) in every single scene, they'd probably learn to better appreciate the story for what it is rather than focusing with ever more intensity on a single image and what it is

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I play just about every route (even the GW for fuck's sake) for the simple reason that I want more than 5-6 minutes of gameplay per update...

That would be the end of it. He would stretch it for years because he wouldnt have had the time to put the 2/3 days in. People like L&P need time constraints.
I can already see him starting in january and then in november he finds some new method to obsess about so he goes all the way back to what he developed to change it.

At this point, a 1 or 2 event release coupled with a downgrade to 720p would be the best way because he clearly cant commit to time.
If he didnt even manage to keep to a 3 month schedule and there are going to be 50+% renders, imagine a 1 year schedule with a 4000 render goal, it would end up at 12k.

 

[Френсис]

Folks, when will the new version?! Will there be a new version?!

 

[xxxorro]

I read what you say.

But what about the fact that Sam was happy and proud to invite Sophia to his concert, with the main argument being that it reminded Sophia of her youth and her groupie side? Sam was even happier that Sophia accepted. Then disappointed when she told him that she would invite friends to come with her?
Sam was clearly waiting for a one-on-one moment with her. And at the time, Sophia wasn't thinking of bringing Ellie and Sam together.

Here it is:

sa "You know that I have my first real live performance with my band tomorrow?"
s "Really??? Wow, that's awesome!!!"
s "No, that's the bomb, as you teens like to say *ha-ha*."
"{color=#ffffff}Sam nodded."
sa "Would you like to come to the show?"
s "Do you really have to ask? Of course I'll come!"
s "I'll get Ellie and my sister, and we'll come with bells on!"
s "Maybe Ellie will even bring a friend with her."
sa "Um... I don't know."
s "Hey, a real rock band needs its own groupies screaming and cheering 'em on, right *ha-ha*?"
sa "Yeah. Maybe."
sa "Do you think Ellie would really want to come?"
s "Well, it's your very first live performance! I'm pretty sure she wouldn't want to miss that!"
s "And this could be your chance to impress her *wink*!"
sa "Um.. what do you mean?"
s "Oh, come on, Sam. Don't play dumb!"
s "I mean what you admitted to me last time, and what's been obvious since you were in kindergarten!"
s "That you have a crush on my daughter!"
sa "Um, no, that's not what I said!"
sa "I just said that I think she's very nice and pretty."
s "And that you dream about her *chuckle*!"
"{color=#ffffff}Sam stayed silent, and Sophia knew she'd caught him."
s "Don't worry, honey. Your secret's safe with me. I won't tell her. Promise!"
"{color=#ffffff}Sam nodded."
sa "OK, I think I should go back over the wall again. I'm sure Mom's already made lunch."
sa "And... you're sure that your front doesn't need an extra coat of sunscreen? Just to be sure, you know."
sa "After all, the sun's beating down pretty relentlessly today."
s "*Chuckle* I really appreciate your concern, Sam, but I think there's still enough sunscreen on me. And if needed, I can take care of my front myself. You've already helped me a lot with my back."

She actually mentioned Ellie and Patricia right away, and tried to push the "Ellie argument" but it seems clear that Sam thinks that Ellie is pretty and all but... he prefers her mother.

PS
I kept the last three sentences because they always make me chuckle... "Shall I do the front?"... yeah, right!

 

[Catherine1972]

Here it is:

sa "You know that I have my first real live performance with my band tomorrow?"
s "Really??? Wow, that's awesome!!!"
s "No, that's the bomb, as you teens like to say *ha-ha*."
"{color=#ffffff}Sam nodded."
sa "Would you like to come to the show?"
s "Do you really have to ask? Of course I'll come!"
s "I'll get Ellie and my sister, and we'll come with bells on!"
s "Maybe Ellie will even bring a friend with her."
sa "Um... I don't know."
s "Hey, a real rock band needs its own groupies screaming and cheering 'em on, right *ha-ha*?"
sa "Yeah. Maybe."
sa "Do you think Ellie would really want to come?"
s "Well, it's your very first live performance! I'm pretty sure she wouldn't want to miss that!"
s "And this could be your chance to impress her *wink*!"
sa "Um.. what do you mean?"
s "Oh, come on, Sam. Don't play dumb!"
s "I mean what you admitted to me last time, and what's been obvious since you were in kindergarten!"
s "That you have a crush on my daughter!"
sa "Um, no, that's not what I said!"
sa "I just said that I think she's very nice and pretty."
s "And that you dream about her *chuckle*!"
"{color=#ffffff}Sam stayed silent, and Sophia knew she'd caught him."
s "Don't worry, honey. Your secret's safe with me. I won't tell her. Promise!"
"{color=#ffffff}Sam nodded."
sa "OK, I think I should go back over the wall again. I'm sure Mom's already made lunch."
sa "And... you're sure that your front doesn't need an extra coat of sunscreen? Just to be sure, you know."
sa "After all, the sun's beating down pretty relentlessly today."
s "*Chuckle* I really appreciate your concern, Sam, but I think there's still enough sunscreen on me. And if needed, I can take care of my front myself. You've already helped me a lot with my back."

She actually mentioned Ellie and Patricia right away, and tried to push the "Ellie argument" but it seems clear that Sam thinks that Ellie is pretty and all but... he prefers her mother.

PS
I kept the last three sentences because they always make me chuckle... "Shall I do the front?"... yeah, right!

Thank you for helping my memory.

I got stuck on Sam's sentence of disappointment.
And if it's Julia who comes in addition? So there Ellie would give him her undivided attention ... and Sam could have Sophia for him ...

 

[Scarlet56]

Folks, when will the new version?! Will there be a new version?!

Seriously man, you're doing it on purpose aren't you?

We have already told you the possible release date of the next update.
Take a notepad, a pencil and write down:
Middle-may at best.

 

[nexer]

I replayed the event with Sam's erotic dream and invitation to the concert. The options available to the player show a woman already untethered from certain restrictions and out of control of her own emotions. I think Sam will go beyond a kiss to sucking on her tits.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Folks, when will the new version?! Will there be a new version?!

Only KillJoys has the new version and he's sharing it with people asking nicely in his DMs.

 

[Scarlet56]

Why a facepalm xxxorro ?

 

[Talcum Powder]

That would be the end of it. He would stretch it for years because he wouldnt have had the time to put the 2/3 days in. People like L&P need time constraints.
I can already see him starting in january and then in november he finds some new method to obsess about so he goes all the way back to what he developed to change it.

At this point, a 1 or 2 event release coupled with a downgrade to 720p would be the best way because he clearly cant commit to time.
If he didnt even manage to keep to a 3 month schedule and there are going to be 50+% renders, imagine a 1 year schedule with a 4000 render goal, it would end up at 12k.

It is a risk, I agree. A huge risk. But the chopping and dicing approach hasn't sped anything up and there's no evidence that things will improve. Just think looking at the bigger picture (a 2-3 day arc) might dampen the impulse to focus on every single moment in every single conversation as if that was the most important thing in the whole project.

 

[xxxorro]

Thank you for helping my memory.

I got stuck on Sam's sentence of disappointment.
And if it's Julia who comes in addition? So there Ellie would give him her undivided attention ... and Sam could have Sophia for him ...

yes she could be Ellie's +1 or be there for his brother's concert anyway.
In the shower it is not mentioned

    s "By the way, Sam invited us to his performance tonight with his band!"
    e "Us?"
    s "Well, actually... just me. But I told him that I'd ask you and your aunt if you guys wanted to join."
    e "I'm off tonight. So, yeah! Sure, why not?"
    e "Could be interesting *ha-ha*!"

And, incidentally, I don't remember if she asked Patricia yet.

Anyway, I think there are many possibilities for getting Sophia and Sam alone after the concert.
The car scenario is actually interesting as it seems to be the perfect context for the next step.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Anyone remember how far away (# of updates or playable days) the Horse Riding event is?

 

[Catherine1972]

yes she could be Ellie's +1 or be there for his brother's concert anyway.
In the shower it is not mentioned

    s "By the way, Sam invited us to his performance tonight with his band!"
    e "Us?"
    s "Well, actually... just me. But I told him that I'd ask you and your aunt if you guys wanted to join."
    e "I'm off tonight. So, yeah! Sure, why not?"
    e "Could be interesting *ha-ha*!"

And, incidentally, I don't remember if she asked Patricia yet.

Anyway, I think there are many possibilities for getting Sophia and Sam alone after the concert.
The car scenario is actually interesting as it seems to be the perfect context for the next step.

The behind-the-scenes tour is a classic ...
But this is not the concert of the century there

 

[Scarlet56]

yes she could be Ellie's +1 or be there for his brother's concert anyway.
In the shower it is not mentioned

    s "By the way, Sam invited us to his performance tonight with his band!"
    e "Us?"
    s "Well, actually... just me. But I told him that I'd ask you and your aunt if you guys wanted to join."
    e "I'm off tonight. So, yeah! Sure, why not?"
    e "Could be interesting *ha-ha*!"

And, incidentally, I don't remember if she asked Patricia yet.

Anyway, I think there are many possibilities for getting Sophia and Sam alone after the concert.
The car scenario is actually interesting as it seems to be the perfect context for the next step.

Julia at the concert? One night ?
With what we know about Neil and what he thinks of his daughter, it would be surprising.

 

[xxxorro]

Why a facepalm xxxorro ?

Not to you, obviously!!!
Btw, at the cost of opening a can of worms, wasn't "mid-may at the latest"? Did it change?

 

[Scarlet56]

Not to you, obviously!!!
Btw, at the cost of opening a can of worms, wasn't "mid-may at the latest"? Did it change?

The tide is ebbing and the winds are not favorable
So...at best

 

[xxxorro]

The behind-the-scenes tour is a classic ...
But this is not the concert of the century there

I thought about the backstage too.
Even small concerts like that usually have a "meet the friends" after.
It depends on where it takes place but the car idea gives them a little bit more privacy I found.
In the end, Sam is trying to play the "romantic" card, so a scene similar to the one by the pool but in the car seems more the way to go imo.

 

[Catherine1972]

I thought about the backstage too.
Even small concerts like that usually have a "meet the friends" after.
It depends on where it takes place but the car idea give them a little bit more privacy I found.
In the end, Sam is trying to play the "romantic" card, so a scene similar to the one by the pool but in the car seems more the way to go imo.

In the perspective of progression, a first invitation backstage then a proposal for a ride in the car ... it looks more like the idea of L&P to combine the two to create a waiting effect ... and give to Sophia time to think about her actions.

 

[Old Dog]

The behind-the-scenes tour is a classic ...
But this is not the concert of the century there

You do know that the gig is in a bar?

 

[xxxorro]

The tide is ebbing and the winds are not favorable
So...at best

this time i let you choose, a for the nautical reference or for the sad reality?

 

[Catherine1972]

You do know that the gig is in a bar?

Yes i know.

With "backstage", i mean a proposal to meet the members of the group, to isolate Sophia from the friends who accompanied her for example. Or just get out of the bar because Sam would immediately like Sophia's advice on the performance.