VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Deleted member 1857423]

Wrong. The most annoying thing about the dev is, that he distributes "blue balls" in all conceivable directions, even a long time, maybe even now, includes new characters into the game, instead of making something out of at least 1 route and finally delivering some content. Fed up with it, there are even rumors that Sophia will no longer be the MC. If that were to be done now, a large part of the teasing would have been absolutely pointless so far. Unfortunately, that has made up the majority of the game so far.

So far I see AWAM as a promising rough draft for a possibly promising book novel. So far so good, a fine thing. However, it shouldn't be a novel, but an erotic game. Am I wrong? I'm slowly wondering if the dev is even planning to finally get down to business. I wonder how many years this will go this way.

said that, what we can we say? maybe... l&p lacks "perversion"... not good... ahahahahaaha

 

[Leldorin]

Yes and no. There's an old rule in fiction that you can have some unbelievable central idea (Warp speed, dragons, etc) as long as the world around that idea is still grounded and consistent. The "rule" basically says that if the surrounding elements begin to breakdown, then that central issue suddenly looks worse.

For me, it’s stays consistent in its “unbeleivability” (don’t know if that word exists).

In a world where Sophia had, apparently, no idea that she was attracting looks from guys (discussion at the beginning of the game with Ellie). Totally believe for a woman that looks like Sophia.


Where she needed alcohol to “convince herself ” to show half of her boobs to Sam while they were alone, will, the next day, proposes to invite Sam to the bikini show with Dylan. (I know that she doesn’t know what type of bikini Dylan will buy, but it’s still a “show”).
Again,it’s not Sam or Dylan who asked for this, it’s Sophia who proposed for Sam to come see her in some bikini.(with her son present. and sober).

Where Sophia is still in her “must be his hormones...is that normal behavior for a teenager ?” mode after x time where Dylan has grabbed her ass, boobs, “surprise kissed” her, and à not slapped him in the face despite having clearly rejected him each time.

Where her daughter will basically tell her : “ yeah , shut up. I don’t give a shit about what you say, I do what I want. Don’t forget we’re going to the club tonight ” “Okay sweetheart”
Or Dylan will put her through some fake blackmail (I know it has been removed but it was part of the “original plot ”.)
“Maybe I’m too harsh on him, he was trying to help me. My angel baby boy.” Basically her thoughts after she finds out.(Does this woman have some self respect ?)

Where an average looking guy, with nothing for him other than being horny, a turbo virgin that can’t even have a normal conversation with a girl, is now a chick magnet. Why? Because he has an haircut. (Totally relatable for every average looking guy... stay awkward, don’t change anything about yourself. Just get a new haircut or grow a little mustache or buy a new pair of shoes and you too can become a chad). Or because it’s super cliche and the script say so.

As for me, all of those examples are as believable as Sophia not knowing but still “being okay” to go who knows where on a bike with Aiden.

It stays consistent with how I view Sophia in certain events (I play all the routes) : totally unbelievable in her thoughts and actions. No more no less.

Why does it doesn’t bother me as much as the “incests storyline” ?
I don’t know. Maybe because it’s not as front and center as the Dylan and Ellie storylines are now.
Some of the other characters (when they are characters)appear sometimes years appart and are basically just kink.(if you like their specific kink, you may enjoy their events and if not, you won’t)

My only hope is that at least for the Sophia/Dylan storyline (I don’t see why the Sophia/Ellie storyline would drastically change at the speed it’s going), we stop with all this “if I do this, can we do that?” And other “can I feel the fabric of your bra?”
I want this storyline to be a little more serious, to have some believable reason as to why Sophia would engage in anything remotely sexual with her son.
Until now, I look at this storyline as if it was a 20 pages incest mom/son hentai where the story would have been stretched over 2000 pages.
It’s not believable(for me), it is certainly not realistic, the only difference is that one is quick the other is not.

Alright enough rambling, I hope I don’t appear as being too confrontational. English is not my first language (obviously).
(And yes, despite all I’ve said here or in the past, I still enjoy this game. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t the case)

 

[hax]

I'd put money that something sexual will happen. "Sexual" is a broad term, so this seems like an easy bet.

I bet it will be a boob flash

 

[ancienregimele]

Do we have a consensus opinion about where in the world San Alejo is supposed to be? Driving on the left side of the road suggests ...?
There aren't too many costal cities in North America that I can think of, which would be described as both "big" and "sunny" that have this type of scenery within a short driving distance.

It seems like a fictional Californian style city, especially with the Spanish name, blue skies & sunshine. California has a diverse range of environments, including forests, mountains, deserts, off-shore islands etc.

 

[xxxorro]

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Sorry guys if it is a bit off-topic and unrelated to the plot. And it's a geeky/nerdy question for all the modelers out there.
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Is it just me or the shadows are a bit off in the image?

Looking at the shadow casted by the bike it seems the sun is high above them (it's indeed a bit past noon when it happens), slightly in front of them (we don't see the shadow casted by the front wheel) and to their right.

Looking at the environment (ok, it's a real picture) the sun seems to be completely coming in from right side (yellow arrow) and I'd say a bit lower than the zenith and it casts longer shadows on the top of the trees. Also the grass on the left side is almost overexposed meaning that the light is almost perpendicular to that slope.

What do you guys think?

I want to stress that is just my curiosity, by any means I'm not criticising the work, the quality and whatever, it's just an academic question!!

 

[Bane71]

When I think about this saga with Aiden's tasks, I realize that the third task will not be easy for Sofia, but she should like it. This will cause conflicting feelings in her and later, perhaps a turning point will come when she is ready for more. Sophia in the future will be anxiously and impatiently awaiting the next task and, just as we are doing now, she will try to predict what Aiden will tell her to do.

 

[bayrischman]

It seems like a fictional Californian style city, especially with the Spanish name, blue skies & sunshine. California has a diverse range of environments, including forests, mountains, deserts, off-shore islands etc.

the aiden teaser suddenly drives on the left . is aiden and sophia in another country.

 

[Talcum Powder]

It seems like a fictional Californian style city, especially with the Spanish name, blue skies & sunshine. California has a diverse range of environments, including forests, mountains, deserts, off-shore islands etc.

Sure, but that doesn't explain driving on the left side of the road. Unless he's being a bit of a daredevil or "straightening the curves" as they say.

 

[Old Dog]

<Disclaimer>
Sorry guys if it is a bit off-topic and unrelated to the plot. And it's a geeky/nerdy question for all the modelers out there.
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Is it just me or the shadows are a bit off in the image?

Looking at the shadow casted by the bike it seems the sun is high above them (it's indeed a bit past noon when it happens), slightly in front of them (we don't see the shadow casted by the front wheel) and to their right.

Looking at the environment (ok, it's a real picture) the sun seems to be completely coming in from right side (yellow arrow) and I'd say a bit lower than the zenith and it casts longer shadows on the top of the trees. Also the grass on the left side is almost overexposed meaning that the light is almost perpendicular to that slope.

What do you guys think?

I want to stress that is just my curiosity, by any means I'm not criticising the work, the quality and whatever, it's just an academic question!!

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I would of thought that Sophia would of been leaning a bit more forward into Aiden since she seems to have her arms wrapped a round his waist.
As for the shadows, that could be caused by the angle of camera or lighting

 

[Old Dog]

When I think about this saga with Aiden's tasks, I realize that the third task will not be easy for Sofia, but she should like it. This will cause conflicting feelings in her and later, perhaps a turning point will come when she is ready for more. Sophia in the future will be anxiously and impatiently awaiting the next task and, just as we are doing now, she will try to predict what Aiden will tell her to do.

All of Aidens task have caused conflict for her

 

[Hlextor]

the aiden teaser suddenly drives on the left . is aiden and sophia in another country.

Yes usually, a biker takes the right-hand bend quite tightly on the right. If he has the opportunity to take the left-hand bend properly further ahead, he cuts it on the left.

 

[Old Dog]

Yes usually, a biker takes the right-hand bend quite tightly on the right. If he has the opportunity to take the left-hand bend properly further ahead, he cuts it on the left.

Having never owned or rode a bike ,I never knew that cheers my good fellow

 

[Talcum Powder]

What kind of tree appears in the latest teaser. I don't think they are in a place with a warm climate and palm trees.

Yes, that's what I think. Driving on the left isn't conclusive of anything, but the San Alejo trees and shrubs and so forth, plus big city and sunny, suggests a climate similar to the California coast south of San Francisco. There are certainly places within 50 miles of the California coast that have this type of forest, but those areas aren't really southern enough to have the desert trees (palms, especially) within short driving distance.

Never mind that if you've ever been to southern California near any big city, you are going to spend an hour or more just getting clear of the city and it's suburban sprawl, even on the freeway, anytime during daylight hours.

 

[Old Dog]

Yes, that's what I think. Driving on the left isn't conclusive of anything, but the San Alejo trees and shrubs and so forth, plus big city and sunny, suggests a climate similar to the California coast south of San Francisco. There are certainly places within 50 miles of the California coast that have this type of forest, but those areas aren't really southern enough to have the desert trees (palms, especially) within short driving distance.

Never mind that if you've ever been to southern California near any big city, you are going to spend an hour or more just getting clear of the city and it's suburban sprawl, even on the freeway, anytime during daylight hours.

He would of been limited on the number of assets that would of been suitable for this scene so I would not really read too much into it,unless he made his own.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I would of thought that Sophia would of been leaning a bit more forward into Aiden since she seems to have her arms wrapped a round his waist.
As for the shadows, that could be caused by the angle of camera or lighting

At speed on a curvy road the passenger has to lean in to the driver and hold on tight otherwise you get spilled off the bike, no question. On a straight road it's less of an issue but in this scenario the driver and passenger have to be as close to a consolidated mass as possible.
(edit): This image isn't clear how tight she's holding on, but her head or upper torso should be pressed up right against his shoulder.

 

[Old Dog]

At speed on a curvy road the passenger has to lean in to the driver and hold on tight otherwise you get spilled off the bike, no question. On a straight road it's less of an issue but in this scenario the driver and passenger have to be as close to a consolidated mass as possible.
(edit): This image isn't clear how tight she's holding on, but her head or upper torso should be pressed up right against his shoulder.

Being picky I know,blame the brit in me,(oking) but shouldn't Sophia's bag be pushed onto her back not her side?
All that I have said, is was probably a really hard pose to set up.

 

[Talcum Powder]

He would of been limited on the number of assets that would of been suitable for this scene so I would not really read too much into it,unless he made his own.

Sure, on the first point. No evidence that L&P is building custom assets (trees?!) on his own. There are dozens of different tree and forest packages out there. This package, available on the F95 Assets forum, looks like the one used here.

 

[Old Dog]

Sure, on the first point. No evidence that L&P is building custom assets (trees?!) on his own. There are dozens of different tree and forest packages out there. This package, available on the F95 Assets forum, looks like the one used here.

Nice catch.

 

[trupervent10001]

Sure, on the first point. No evidence that L&P is building custom assets (trees?!) on his own. There are dozens of different tree and forest packages out there. This package, available on the F95 Assets forum, looks like the one used here.

It looks like the task is related to bathing

 

[xxxorro]

Nice catch.

Wow, I have been fooled, I really thought that it was a rendering placed on a real picture of a road! And this time without nexer messing around the picture! Shame on me!
So if everything is rendered together it must be just an effect given the particular settings of trees and lights.

At the cost of being obsessive with the bag, if anything I would have expected Sophia to place it in between them, that would make it safer imo. Placed like that, even at moderate speed, it will be flying around and hard to keep it still. But I'm not a bike either, maybe some expert can confirm.

(edit): This image isn't clear how tight she's holding on, but her head or upper torso should be pressed up right against his shoulder.

Yes I agree it seems a quite unnatural position. Unless there is something in between them, maybe the shopping bag that Scarlet56 is looking for?
It would be a task that requires a lot of stuff brought around!