VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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GingerSweetGirl

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xxxorro said:
Just to be clear, my remark was not about the pace or the content of the events. As you show in your list the pace escalated a lot this PD, whether it was planned like this or because he is adapting.

What I was noting is that the *transition* between where we left the interaction with a certain character and the new event with that same character has a sort of gap. I took the old gents example because it was the most striking to me: you suddenly meet these guys that are openly flirting and making sexual innuendos with Sophia. This is obviously a problem coming from the previous side job events that were a few lines delegated to the narrator voice explaining things. That failed to set up the context in which the interactions take place. Then the event itself is fine, once you move on from the "abrupt" start.

In a similar way and at different extents the interactions/dialogues with Dylan, Aiden, Nathalie and Sam felt (at least to me) having a transition gap wrt where we previously left the characters. Like they were suddenly on a different level. But then (again, to me) the rest of each event was fine.
Maybe it's just me and/or I'm nitpicking. I don't know if you notice that too and had the same feeling.
I don't know if this PD have a special place in his plan and served as a "booster" for all the paths. For sure now the relationship with most of the characters is clearly on a different level. We'll see in the next update(s) if there will be a smoother progression in that sense.
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I see what you mean about the transitions between scenes, but to me it hasn't been a problem. In fact, I think it's necessary, and needs to be even greater. The game needs to MOVE, it's already so slowly paced that it's hard to imagine the 30-day schedule working. Without jumps between scenes, characters like Natalie and (to a lesser extent) Sam would already be so far behind that they could never catch up and have sexy scenes with Sophia. Because Natalie appears so infrequently, I think we can pretty much guarantee that every scene with her from now on is going to escalate substantially from the previous scene. The next time we see her, I have no doubt that there will be nudity, with sex only being a heartbeat away.

Dylan and Ellie can develop more naturally because they appear in almost every single update. There's no need for an abrupt jump in how sexual they can be with Sophia. L&P can take his time, develop the relationships very deliberately. It's still painfully slow, but it makes sense.

This is also why Sophia's relationship with the Apostles escalated so quickly. It was disgusting and far too quick, but the side jobs appear so seldom that we're going to see a lot of inconsistencies between scenes. The next time Sophia works at the nursing home, she's going to wear that crazy sexy outfit for the old men. I suspect she's also going to let them get to second base with her. Within the next three scenes at the nursing home, I believe Sophia will have sex with them. But that will take probably 15 years, and it will be late in the game. But in terms of where the relationship is right now, it will be a huge jump and will feel unrealistic. But, again, that's understandable because at some point the game simply has to move.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
Because I don't think Morello ever cared about the money, it was just an excuse to get close to Sophia. It would not surprise me at all if Morello exploited Liam's gambling problem once he (Morello) learned who Sophia was. Sure, Morello wanted his money back, but he was far more interested in using the threat of the debt to get closer to Sophia. I've also NEVER believed L&P that there was no sexual intent from Morello towards Sophia. I know he denied a "indecent proposal" situation, but I think he's either outright lying or he's lying by omission.
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I always thought that, as per previous posts by me & others. Anyway, Morello saying that he's happily married doesn't make it true. Who better to lie in their own interest than a Mafia boss? Casinos have the ability to zero in on patrons with CCTV & I think that's what happened when Sophia & Liam were there together. Don Morello even had time to think up a poetic line about Sophia's eyes, for that added extra smooth talk. Sophia's winning & Liam's losing streaks were not the results of games of chance.

I will hate it if the Aiden & Don Morello stories, (should there be a DM story), are mutually exclusive.
 
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Wbwbd85 said:
The update wasn't that bad not his best one for sure. But the hot tub scene was hot. As sad is this is to say but it felt like he rushed it. It felt like he cut scenes out of the bar event. And definitely missed and opportunity so Sophia to tease Sam a little more getting out of the hot tub.
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I also got the impression that he cut out some of the renders from the already finished update.

But this is not surprising, they are under strong pressure on him and unfortunately this does not help the story and development of the game, it can only harm.
 
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ancienregimele said:
I always thought that, as per previous posts by me & others. Anyway, Morello saying that he's happily married doesn't make it true. Who better to lie in their own interest than a Mafia boss? Casinos have the ability to zero in on patrons with CCTV & I think that's what happened when Sophia & Liam were there together. Don Morello even had time to think up a poetic line about Sophia's eyes, for that added extra smooth talk. Sophia's winning & Liam's losing streaks were not the results of games of chance.

I will hate it if the Aiden & Don Morello stories, (should there be a DM story), are mutually exclusive.
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No way, we badly need the storylines to be narrowed down. If both stories can continue simultaneously it will only make development even harder. At some point the players is going to have to make choices.
 
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athena2021 said:
This graph looks great. Thanks for your update. I asked to add this post link in OP as the graph may help players. I am not satisfied with the progress inequality though. :)
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Thank you!
I doubt the Mods will go for it, there's enough clutter on the OP already - but I'll be glad if it helps new players avoid getting their hopes up about content that's just not there.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
No way, we badly need the storylines to be narrowed down. If both stories can continue simultaneously it will only make development even harder. At some point the players is going to have to make choices.
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It would be excellent if L&P gave the player the choice to play both but the narrowing down from my POV would come in the form of Sophia leaving the side jobs. Now that the debt is cancelled, she's not desparate for money, surely? It would be even better if she finally got to teach full-time.
 
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fortuna95 said:
Thanks, but you forgot the numbers in the graph (like 0.130)
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Awww shit.
I put the numbers on and everything, then I must've saved the wrong draft.

I even thought about you while I was doing it (no homo), like Must remember to put the numbers on like Fortuna95 suggested.

I'll redo it tonight when I get home from work.

Edit. - and I'm just now seeing that I missed the colour-coding for Julia's wedge too. What a mess
 
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ancienregimele said:
It would be excellent if L&P gave the player the choice to play both but the narrowing down from my POV would come in the form of Sophia leaving the side jobs. Now that the debt is cancelled, she's not desparate for money, surely? It would be even better if she finally got to teach full-time.
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I could live with that. The side jobs predate the issue with the gambling debt, so I think they still need the money, but storywise Morello is a far more interesting character than anything happening in the side jobs.
 
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I'm not sure what happened to the mod initially, but I managed to bump myself up to being able to see the more lewd jacuzzi scene. Good stuff, and it makes me wonder how much stuff I've missed out on up to this point. I might have to go back to some old saves, and give it a go. I also caught that as Sam was leaving, he said "Talk to you tomorrow". After this one, I wonder if we're in for an actual scene in the next update or two...



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