VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

I looked again at the three choices at the hot tube event with Sam. Depending on the decision, Sophia's thoughts are slightly different or more or less intensely shaped by school feelings. The internal argument is weakest when Sam hides behind the bathtub. The question now is whether these decisions, and with them the inner monologue, will have an impact on the future Sam event?
I also found Sophia's thoughts in bed after the Cathy event interesting. She thought about the offer and pretended not to be the one who has already had extramarital sexual experiences. I can understand that L&P writes the scene like this because the Cathy event also takes place without the Sam route, but the inner monologue should look a little different depending on the route.

Only if Sophia either hides Sam in the hot tub or tell him to hide behind it, Sam will get the option to pick up Ellie from the beach.

 

[bayrischman]

I think a chat or a phone call will suffice.
It's a "Bad Blood" series, a small Asian shop owner whose son is being beaten and extorted by a neighborhood gang, calls a local mob member, not the boss. And this Mafia member, along with another friend, with a gun in the mouth of one of the gang members, explains what they must do from now on.
When the Asian's son would leave the house, the gang boys would take his backpack and walk him to school every morning.
What can I say, quite a show

And it's very possible that Tony knows Aiden's uncle personally. L&P mentioned that Uncle runs in such circles, hard to avoid the boss.

i think rather that aiden,s uncle works for morello. did not the prinzipal say something simular. a call to morello would be a very good thing.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

do we know if L&P has already started working on the next update?

 

[keefer43]

I think that Morello will be a perfect gentleman towards Sophia and it will be Sophia who tries to seduce/tease Morello,just for a change

She might just ask him for advice not a "favour". Get a feeling for the big picture and check out her options.

 

[hzjujk]

Only if Sophia either hides Sam in the hot tub or tell him to hide behind it, Sam will get the option to pick up Ellie from the beach.

That's not what I meant. I was thinking more about whether these choices have an effect on how Sophia decides, at least in dialogue, who rejects Sam at the beginning of the next Sam event.
But since we control Sophia's decisions, we know how it will turn out in the end.

 

[keefer43]

I was being sarcastic on the part about Liam but the remorse part with Sophia I would like to see some guilt and thinking about the consequences of her actions could have on her marriage/career and how it could affect her family/friends.
Her actions could devastate the people who mean the most to her and just now it looks like she really doesn't care that much about the lives that she could destroy in her search for pleasure.
I agree with hzjujk that Liam has complete confidence in his wife just now and no I don't think that Liam would forgive his wife,.When the shit hits the fan I hope that Liam takes everything away from Sophia house/kids/career/leaves he penniless and not even Patricia can help her because of the shame Sophia has brought onto the family

I think this has taken a dark turn in my opinion. It needs to remain more even and positive - both Liam and Sophia are players in this little drama but we don't get into Liam's head. It's clear he would agree to having a more open relationship. There are others potentially involved too as we all know. Lots of side issues driving the action from mostly only Sophia's perspective. So, we don't know where this is going quite yet, I have not got any solid impressions on how this will end but I can't imagine it will quite so negative and dark - it should and could (certainly in my opinion) be something that develops for both Sophia and Liam (et al) with some side influences not being "disclosed" to all parties at once, but perhaps becoming clearer in time. I don't really want to think about Sophia being some sullied cum dumpster living in abject poverty and despair (where did that come from?) in just a couple of weeks of game time - instead it will hopefully be more of a comfortable evolution, with good sexy outcomes and positive atmosphere - with certainly some challenging speed-bumps along the way. I trust (going out on a limb here) that our Sophia will have some growth and adventures, but nothing too decrepit or decadent.

 

[nexer]

That's not what I meant. I was thinking more about whether these choices have an effect on how Sophia decides, at least in dialogue, who rejects Sam at the beginning of the next Sam event.
But since we control Sophia's decisions, we know how it will turn out in the end.

Right, this is where we discuss how far L&P will let us play with Sophia, how long the chain will be.

 

[Old Dog]

I think this has taken a dark turn in my opinion. It needs to remain more even and positive - both Liam and Sophia are players in this little drama but we don't get into Liam's head. It's clear he would agree to having a more open relationship. There are others potentially involved too as we all know. Lots of side issues driving the action from mostly only Sophia's perspective. So, we don't know where this is going quite yet, I have not got any solid impressions on how this will end but I can't imagine it will quite so negative and dark - it should and could (certainly in my opinion) be something that develops for both Sophia and Liam (et al) with some side influences not being "disclosed" to all parties at once, but perhaps becoming clearer in time. I don't really want to think about Sophia being some sullied cum dumpster living in abject poverty and despair (where did that come from?) in just a couple of weeks of game time - instead it will hopefully be more of a comfortable evolution, with good sexy outcomes and positive atmosphere - with certainly some challenging speed-bumps along the way. I trust (going out on a limb here) that our Sophia will have some growth and adventures, but nothing too decrepit or decadent.

Sophia will have some growth and adventures, but nothing too decrepit or decadent.
I too would like to see this but the game is starting to become too dark for me, with god knows what lurking in the shadows,I do really hope that I am wrong but I have a bad feeling about all of this.

 

[hzjujk]

Right, this is where we discuss how far L&P will let us play with Sophia, how long the chain will be.

I have the impression there is no chain. L&P tries very hard not to create complicated causal chains that make programming life difficult for him. That may not bother most of them, but it does me.

 

[Bane71]

I thought I was the only one who felt that way.

I even wrote an L&P post as it seemed to me he cut out a certain amount of renders. But he told me that he hadn't cut anything.
In general, I think that this update is missing about 10-15 renders and I perfectly understand the reason.

 

[farisau]

there is for mac v 0.150???

 

[Bane71]

You must be registered to see the links

For the moment, it's still version 0.130.
I don’t know if version 0.150 will be made here or elsewhere.

Will be as soon as sheatfish translates.

 

[nexer]

Sophia will have some growth and adventures, but nothing too decrepit or decadent.
I too would like to see this but the game is starting to become too dark for me with god knows what lurking in the shadows.I do really hope that I am wrong but I have a bad feeling about all of this.

We don't have to accept the limit set by L&P, we can set our own limit so that the process is to our liking.
The problem is that this postpones the sex scenes even more.

I think, like the intention to use all fetishes, L&P offers endings for all types of audiences, from the kinky to the decent.

L&P can defend himself with that, the player decides, he just put all the possible choices at the player's disposal.

 

[Old Dog]

We don't have to accept the limit set by L&P, we can set our own limit so that the process is to our liking.
The problem is that this postpones the sex scenes even more.

I think, like the intention to use all fetishes, L&P offers endings for all types of audiences, from the kinky to the decent.

L&P can defend himself with that, the player decides, he just put all the possible choices at the player's disposal.

Except when he blocked the players choice concerning Tyler and this could happen again

 

[Adolfo]

LP has said there will be a lesbian sex(ual) scene. Could anyone explain me the difference between a sex scene and a sexual scene? My english is not so rich.

 

[Sabertooth__]

LP has said there will be a lesbian sex(ual) scene. Could anyone explain me the difference between a sex scene and a sexual scene? My english is not so rich.

Generally sex means the act of having sex and sexual acts could mean the foreplay and other stuff. But we are not sure of what L&P exactly means by sex scenes. He has listed an abundance of them in the next 3-4 days, but the thing is there hasn't even been a proper handjob scene in the game. So expecting full on sex straight away, seems weird. Maybe by sex he is referring to oral sex and other acts or maybe there is an actual sex scene soon. Nobody really knows

 

[Old Dog]

LP has said there will be a lesbian sex(ual) scene. Could anyone explain me the difference between a sex scene and a sexual scene? My english is not so rich.

Along the same lines that Sabertooth__ wrote

A sex scene with a male will probably just be foreplay/fondle each other/kiss but no sexual intercourse
A sexual scene with a female will probably be oral/fondle/finger basically the same thing

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I thought I was the only one who felt that way.

The problem is that if L&P increased the corruption of Sophia slowly and "realistically" (with the suspension of disbelief required that this a porn novel trying to tell the transition from naïve and straight laced housewife to incestual sex in 30 playable days) in the way that many of us loved up to Playable Day 11, then it could well take L&P another 18-20 years to finish this story without help.

For me the above realisation dawned on the build up to and L&P comments on the ever increasing render counts (which he somehow regarded as a good thing) of update v0.130. Froom the comments shared here by Patreon members and L&P's reaction / explanantion posts it seems as if it is now finally dawned even on L&P himself.

So L&P now has a very tricky narrow path where he is trying to accelerate the updates to keep some of the newer Patreon supporters happy, whilst also keeping his more long term fans and supporters happy who liked the slow paced buildup including renders of Sophia's inner dialogues.

Can he give us faster updates with less build up renders without losing what made AWAM special in the first place?

 

[Old Dog]

Can he give us faster updates with less build up renders without losing what made AWAM special in the first place?

No and as far as I am concerned he has already lost what made this game so good and that is a shame and one of the reasons why I am no longer a patron of his

 

[crabboid]

Except when he blocked the players choice concerning Tyler and this could happen again

Am I the only one who liked the Tyler scene?