VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[armion82]

I think LP said dylan will catch up by the evening of next playable day, is it not??

Yes.PD14 is right.
There is simply no way for him to catch up on PD13.
Unless we are talking to catch up with Sam's progress before last update.

It wouldn't be the first time a seemingly insignificant thing stops a route. The first I can think of is the soccer match, since Sophia choosing to watch the game locks out the Ellie route, same as not continuing to watch porn when Sophia is in the living room. They're not obvious choices you need to make when playing the Ellie route, but they do matter.

It probably is time a Sam fan writes a walkthrough for his route that we can put in the OP. There's mine or Mamonetti's if someone needs suggestions for format.

Let's not forget the most outrageous one-you should leave the door to the bathroom open in order Ellie to enter.

 

[Bibifoc]

Please don´t tell me that stupid and insignificant thing denies me that scene. i didn´t even remember there were those 2 choices i just knew i hid him in the tub from Liam, behind or in it. What is the difference in pratical terms? It makes no sense

It seems so. Note you didn't get the full scene in AWAM1 with this choice (behind the hottub).

You can replace your save by the attached one to unlock the new scene.

 

[Bane71]

Please don´t tell me that stupid and insignificant thing denies me that scene. i didn´t even remember there were those 2 choices i just knew i hid him in the tub from Liam, behind or in it. What is the difference in pratical terms? It makes no sense

I'm sorry, but what you wrote is more than strange, it was written by a person who has been on this forum for a long time. You have already written more than 700 posts. In fact, it is impossible to believe that you are writing this seriously at all.
There are many different routes in this game and it is quite natural that what you see depends on your choice in the game.
If your post is not a joke, but a serious statement, then I suspect you haven't seen much in this game.
Surprises are waiting for you.

 

[Qixoni]

I'm sorry, but what you wrote is more than strange, it was written by a person who has been on this forum for a long time. You have already written more than 700 posts. In fact, it is impossible to believe that you are writing this seriously at all.
There are many different routes in this game and it is quite natural that what you see depends on your choice in the game.
If your post is not a joke, but a serious statement, then I suspect you haven't seen much in this game.
Surprises are waiting for you.

It´s serious, honestly. It was a long time ago that we played that scene. And also, both the choices are extremely similiar, not quite like leaving the door open or closed. I play a lot of the games here and usually there is a walkthrough mod, of course that dumbs you down a little sometimes, but this game never exatcly needed one because it was more or less obvious. This one isn´t.
How is hidding inside the tube or behind it really different, considering you are hiding your supposed lover from your husband either way? Are we magicians to know that the same thing in practical terms had 2 branches where one kills your chances with Sam and the other doesn´t? No, it´s bad storytelling and stupidity.

 

[Whitekink]

Please don´t tell me that stupid and insignificant thing denies me that scene. i didn´t even remember there were those 2 choices i just knew i hid him in the tub from Liam, behind or in it. What is the difference in pratical terms? It makes no sense

There were three choices...Sam could've jumped over the garden wall.

It does make sense, because he goes further with Sophia if he hides in the tub which will lead to the full scene with Sam in the last update.
In the same way, if Sophia watched the football match instead of spying on Ellie and Jules, she wouldn't learn of their relationship and be able to ask about it later, leading to Jules kissing and touching her.

 

[Vigeous]

It´s serious, honestly. It was a long time ago that we played that scene. And also, both the choices are extremely similiar, not quite like leaving the door open or closed. I play a lot of the games here and usually there is a walkthrough mod, of course that dumbs you down a little sometimes, but this game never exatcly needed one because it was more or less obvious. This one isn´t.
How is hidding inside the tube or behind it really different, considering you are hiding your supposed lover from your husband either way? Are we magicians to know that the same thing in practical terms had 2 branches where one kills your chances with Sam and the other doesn´t? No, it´s bad storytelling and stupidity.

Letting Sam hide in the bathtub gives him the chance to lick her vagina through the panties and it also raises the lewdness of the scene and further develop their relationship. To add more, there is a walkthrough in the main menu of the game (bottom left) you can see the needed choices for every scene to be unlocked

 

[hzjujk]

Please don´t tell me that stupid and insignificant thing denies me that scene. i didn´t even remember there were those 2 choices i just knew i hid him in the tub from Liam, behind or in it. What is the difference in pratical terms? It makes no sense

You are right with your question. It does not make sense. We can only assume that L&P had originally planned a denunciation, at least different dialogs, but dropped that in favor of the "faster" development pace. All the more so, as the decision to continue Sam's path was exactly the right one in the end, when Sam's behavior made Sophia the most angry. This could not have been foreseen.
In the future, I can only recommend to make the stupidest decision on the Sam route to have the greatest success with Sophia.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Its kind of like in the last update where you have the choice of letting Sam take off your panties or Sophia doing it herself, I wonder if down the line the latter choice blocks off events escalating.

Only time I recall having a problem with a choice that doesn't give a "Filthy" point label was the thing with Sophia playing the game with Sam and Dylan with one choice not letting you know that her shirt bursts open adding filthy points, this would lead for me to not have enough points down the road for another event.

But anyways yeah there's a big difference between hiding Sam in the jacuzzi and hiding Sam behind the jacuzzi or whatever it was.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Its kind of like in the last update where you have the choice of letting Sam take off your panties or Sophia doing it herself, I wonder if down the line the latter choice blocks off events escalating.

Only time I recall having a problem with a choice that doesn't give a "Filthy" point label was the thing with Sophia playing the game with Sam and Dylan with one choice not letting you know that her shirt bursts open adding filthy points, this would lead for me to not have enough points down the road for another event.

But anyways yeah there's a big difference between hiding Sam in the jacuzzi and hiding Sam behind the jacuzzi or whatever it was.

Wait, you've had issues not being able to maintain Filthy > GW playing the Dylan route? I mainly choose the GW options, and I only have trouble in the beginning. Once you get to the shower with Patricia at the gym, it's been smooth sailing for me.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Wait, you've had issues not being able to maintain Filthy > GW playing the Dylan route? I mainly choose the GW options, and I only have trouble in the beginning. Once you get to the shower with Patricia at the gym, it's been smooth sailing for me.

It was only that one scene with the gaming choice that caused an issue.


After that anytime I'm given a choice and it doesn't mention filthy, good wife, relationship points I do a quicksave and venture to see which actually does something. Which is why I never had issue with the phone in bathroom along with locking the bathroom door.

 

[Isaneclownposey]

Honest question, and not judging at at all because what anyone decides to devote their time and money on is their business. But what makes you guys loyal to this game?

I mean he updates once maybe twice a year and the updates take 5 minutes to finish and most of the renders are non sexual in nature. The characters aren't terribly interesting, I mean its a porn game so I wouldn't expect too much anyway. But my point is that it is a porn game, and the sexual content that most are playing for is years down the line.

Now I know some say, ''Its a slow burn, that's the point, its how the dev is telling his/her story'', but I can't say for sure that this dev isn't just putting in minimal work for a obvious big bang of a buck that this game is making. I mean its the second most popular game on this site.

So if a supporter can give me a honest assessment of why they continue to play this game and follow it I would appreciate it.

 

[_Darkmage_]

My favourite pure vn.

 

[kimber700]

Honest question, and not judging at at all because what anyone decides to devote their time and money on is their business. But what makes you guys loyal to this game?

I mean he updates once maybe twice a year and the updates take 5 minutes to finish and most of the renders are non sexual in nature. The characters aren't terribly interesting, I mean its a porn game so I wouldn't expect too much anyway. But my point is that it is a porn game, and the sexual content that most are playing for is years down the line.

Now I know some say, ''Its a slow burn, that's the point, its how the dev is telling his/her story'', but I can't say for sure that this dev isn't just putting in minimal work for a obvious big bang of a buck that this game is making. I mean its the second most popular game on this site.

So if a supporter can give me a honest assessment of why they continue to play this game and follow it I would appreciate it.

Respect all opinions about this game that would be pros and cons. Everyone has their own taste and expectation that would be respectful as well. As I have already mentioned in another reply, it's a taste. Whoever likes L&P's storyline and slow development can enjoy this game. I personally like his slow development, seduction, plots... (don't like no meaning of sex, too easy MC,...). Of course everyone wants to get the faster update (I also do) but it would not be happened in real time that we should accept it (we have no choice).
BTW you mentioned this is the 2nd popular game in this site, then what is the 1st?

 

[Deleted member 4922995]

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[_Darkmage_]

I'm going for the boys and Shota path. And to get Zach continuation and have still have Dylan's yoga path you need to go shopping with Alyssa. But skip lunch. And yoga showers was a needed Patricia and lesbian path. So I might be sacrificing Alyssa here. Conflicted... :/

 

[Isaneclownposey]

Respect all opinions about this game that would be pros and cons. Everyone has their own taste and expectation that would be respectful as well. As I have already mentioned in another reply, it's a taste. Whoever likes L&P's storyline and slow development can enjoy this game. I personally like his slow development, seduction, plots... (don't like no meaning of sex, too easy MC,...). Of course everyone wants to get the faster update (I also do) but it would not be happened in real time that we should accept it (we have no choice).
BTW you mentioned this is the 2nd popular game in this site, then what is the 1st?

Being a DIK is 1st.

 

[Deleted member 3446610]

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[ancienregimele]

The characters aren't terribly interesting, I mean its a porn game so I wouldn't expect too much anyway. But my point is that it is a porn game, and the sexual content that most are playing for is years down the line.

I can see you joined the thread in the same year as me, so you may remember when AWAM wasn't "just a porn game," even if that's basically what it is now, (albeit one that's due to end some time in the 2050s, if ever), because of the directions it's taken, owing to the Dev's decisions. I don't agree that the characters aren't interesting. If they were just dull cyphers for porn-game style sex, that's what would certainly make them uninteresting but you can judge for yourself by the comments, arguments & debates that this is not so for many followers.

As for the sex, which most fans know is long years away & may never happen, I would contend that sex is only one of the reasons that people still play this in such numbers. AWAM does contain plentiful sexual situations, of varying degrees of realism. There are 100s of games catering for anyone wanting the wham bam approach to sex. [Whilst it's not a case of 'play one & you've played them all,' they can get boring quite quickly. It often looks like a case of over-supply].

I've never paid anything towards this story & nor will I, based on the pace of development, which to put it very diplomatically is less than optimal. What keeps me coming back is twofold curiousity, 1. to see how long AWAM lasts & 2. to see what happens next.

 

[Isaneclownposey]

I can see you joined the thread in the same year as me, so you may remember when AWAM wasn't "just a porn game," even if that's basically what it is now, (albeit one that's due to end some time in the 2050s, if ever), because of the directions it's taken, owing to the Dev's decisions. I don't agree that the characters aren't interesting. If they were just dull cyphers for porn-game style sex, that's what would certainly make them uninteresting but you can judge for yourself by the comments, arguments & debates that this is not so for many followers.

As for the sex, which most fans know is long years away & may never happen, I would contend that sex is only one of the reasons that people still play this in such numbers. AWAM does contain plentiful sexual situations, of varying degrees of realism. There are 100s of games catering for anyone wanting the wham bam approach to sex. [Whilst it's not a case of 'play one & you've played them all,' they can get boring quite quickly. It often looks like a case of over-supply].

I've never paid anything towards this story & nor will I, based on the pace of development, which to put it very diplomatically is less than optimal. What keeps me coming back is twofold curiousity, 1. to see how long AWAM lasts & 2. to see what happens next.

I mean you can say, it wasn't ''just a porn game'' but when you make a character model that physically beautiful and surround the game with other physically beautiful characters what do you expect people to think.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Honest question, and not judging at at all because what anyone decides to devote their time and money on is their business. But what makes you guys loyal to this game?

I mean he updates once maybe twice a year and the updates take 5 minutes to finish and most of the renders are non sexual in nature. The characters aren't terribly interesting, I mean its a porn game so I wouldn't expect too much anyway. But my point is that it is a porn game, and the sexual content that most are playing for is years down the line.

Now I know some say, ''Its a slow burn, that's the point, its how the dev is telling his/her story'', but I can't say for sure that this dev isn't just putting in minimal work for a obvious big bang of a buck that this game is making. I mean its the second most popular game on this site.

So if a supporter can give me a honest assessment of why they continue to play this game and follow it I would appreciate it.

Not that I'm particularly a supporter, especially not with some of the recent decisions, but what got me hooked initially was the fun characters. When I first started playing adult VNs, there was very little in terms of games with decent graphics that were female protag. Still aren't, but better than before.

I initially started playing male protag games, being male myself, but none of the male characters really seemed to be anything more than one-dimensional characters.

So this was a breathe of fresh air. Strong-willed, intelligent, female character able to choose what she wants. Still can be, depending on the choices. Plus Ellie is just starting to get some added depth to - I continue to be rather impressed by how she's not just your hot highschool cheerleader. And Patricia is hilarious. There's far more to these women than just a mother, her daughter and her slutty sister.