VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.230a + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[TheFapperBoy]

If it's animations then... I hope there's something to animate! It's been a very long time since this game has had a scene that has made me say "Man, I wish that was animated!".

 

[kewlbigdan]

Yeah, these messages have been discussed before. I just don't see where L&P says that there's no reason for Animations here. And what does he need a second powerhouse of a computer for, if not Animations? If it's for a new game mechanic like you've mentioned in your previous post, he could simply use his main rig for it. I guess that's more a coding thing and wouldn't require another computer worth $6000+, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm not an expert, but from what I understand, many developers use a second powerful rig to work on Animations, letting them render or whatever else there is to do as it would probably take up too much time on their main rig, preventing the work on regular scenes and other stuff.

You had also said it's a requirement for the next update, but all he said in these messages was that he's gotta do it now because we'll be seeing first results in the upcoming release. But it's something he wanted to do for a long time apparently, so it's really not connected to p2 of the game like you've mentioned, except for a hint from L&P saying that it would make sense now because things are getting more spicy. This again, to me, sounds like Animations. And the reason he's contacting other developers for this "special" task could be because, no offense, L&P's Animations are trash, requiring the help of others who know how to do them properly. Now, all of this is just speculating as L&P, for whatever reason, is more than vague about all of this, and it might actually turn out to be a whole bunch of nothing for all we know.

There was another message about all this from L&P, and putting them all side by side makes this entire thing even more confusing as his messages are extremely contradicting to say the least. Anyway, we'll see what it's all about soon enough. Or maybe we don't as it could turn out to be a big hype over nothing.

Yes I remember the 3rd post but couldn't find it. Mentioning about how excited we will all be and the additional wait time will be worth it. Trust me. Is how he put it If I remember.
There is a tendency between releases for an ever growing expectation of events fueled by the wild speculations put forth by each person's personal hopes. This ultimately leads to disappointments and frustration and the inevitable litany of posts.
I try to live closer to reality possibly pestimistically when concerning what l&p expect I will be excited about. He has a great story and images. He doesn't need to WOW me. If it turns out to be animations hey great as long as they contribute to story telling experience. But if as I expect they are something else I am not disappointed.
Now if I were to pin Hope's on something it would be some sort of 3d environment where the scene could be viewed from all angles.
More of a quality version of Twist or Mysterful.

 

[kewlbigdan]

Yes I remember the 3rd post but couldn't find it. Mentioning about how excited we will all be and the additional wait time will be worth it. Trust me. Is how he put it If I remember.
There is a tendency between releases for an ever growing expectation of events fueled by the wild speculations put forth by each person's personal hopes. This ultimately leads to disappointments and frustration and the inevitable litany of posts.
I try to live closer to reality possibly pestimistically when concerning what l&p expect I will be excited about. He has a great story and images. He doesn't need to WOW me. If it turns out to be animations hey great as long as they contribute to story telling experience. But if as I expect they are something else I am not disappointed.
Now if I were to pin Hope's on something it would be some sort of 3d environment where the scene could be viewed from all angles.
More of a quality version of Twist or Mysterful.

Hate typing on a phone in line at Wendies. Please pardon all my grammatical errors

 

[Julius Ash]

The stockings flounce must be always covered by skirt, that's classy, seam is ok only if is just on the back of stockings, devs do not have any idea of what is sexy. In their minds women dress only like sluts.

 

[palmtrees89]

Now if I were to pin Hope's on something it would be some sort of 3d environment where the scene could be viewed from all angles.

A feature like that would surely be fun, but I'd much prefer no extra features at all if I'm being honest. No animations, no 360° angles. None of this fancy stuff, and the reason is quite simple. We're already looking at ~30 years until the game could potentially be completed with the current development speed, and I fear that with adding new features, the time required to develop new updates could become even longer. I don't see this game ever being finished anyway, but I wouldn't mind playing a couple more in-game days before I'm turning into spacedust or planet Earth becomes uninhabitable.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

A feature like that would surely be fun, but I'd much prefer no extra features at all if I'm being honest. No animations, no 360° angles. None of this fancy stuff, and the reason is quite simple. We're already looking at ~30 years until the game could potentially be completed with the current development speed, and I fear that with adding new features, the time required to develop new updates could become even longer. I don't see this game ever being finished anyway, but I wouldn't mind playing a couple more in-game days before I'm turning into spacedust or planet Earth becomes uninhabitable.

Well said! I am only in hope that the second rig is actually the workstation for his assistant/associate/employee. This is his way to guarantee control of assets. This is the only thing that would be worth the effort and would increase production rate. Failure to increase rate is proof there is no intent to fix this problem and means the game is doomed to an ICSTOR Milfy City or any one of dozens of abandoned games type ending.

 

[Sabertooth__]

INCOMING FASHION RANT

See, in my opinion these outfits are too much and are simply immature. I get it, men like stockings and short skirts, and yeah even I can see the attraction...to an extent. But these take it so far that any sexiness is lost. The first one is a great look, IF it were longer and if she wore something more appropriate to cover her cleavage. The stockings actively take away from the look because they're so completely worthless and are there strictly for sex appeal. If I was at a strip club the stockings would be fine, but anywhere else they look tacky, and even worse it looks like the woman doesn't know how to dress. And don't even get me started on those stupid, STUPID, heels. Not only are they completely impractical, but they're also poorly rendered. They're slapped on the model by someone that doesn't understand how to dress themselves, much less a woman.

The second one, that slit is just unbelievably dumb. And paired with those over-the-top stockings with the exaggerated seam, just . Oh, and of course she would always bend at the waist because our knees don't work.

The third outfit we don't see much of, but it appears to have the same problems as the first two. Like, the outfit would actively look better and be sexier WITHOUT the idiotic stockings.

The point is, these are examples of the exact type of clothing we DON'T need in AWAM. These are renders by an immature person without a refined sense of style, and a poor sense of discretion. Even erotic content needs good discretion, you can't overdo it because you'll diminish the impact. But this person is a bull in a China shop, skirts can never be short enough, stockings can never be exposed enough, and women can never be slutty enough.

For all of my complaints about L&P, I have complete confidence that he has better sense than to do anything like this in AWAM. If he did I would probably walk away instantly.

Though I am no expert on women's fashion. Sophia and the other women in the game also are dressed pretty well. They wear trendy stuff, the dress can be from casual to sexy never really crossing the line of modesty or classy. Plus Sophia's dressing sense is also never potrayed as completely conservative. Her dressing sense shows she is open minded and likes feeling sexy as well.
The only time her dress choice was odd was the Bar scene which we all know the reason to.
I mean it was funny to me as how to many times the dress was brought up and not a single time could L&P write a decent reason as to why Sophia would dress like that.

In general I believe either L&P researches women's fashion to appropriately dress the characters or he is naturally good at it.

Also I would like to mention something that I liked about Liam and Sophia is that they are so open-minded. For example They don't have problems with gay relationships, Liam isn't insecure about his wife dressing sexy in public. I mean he didn't even raise a question when Sophia comes back from Alyssa's place on day 18 in a pretty revealing summer dress.

So even though the jokes are made on how conservative Sophia is, she is conservative about things that she should be and open minded towards those that support a human to be mentally happy and provide freedom.

 

[Lighty711]

What is the latest on this game, any update since the last one which had one kiss scene in the tub

 

[nexer]

what do you say guys?. The light has a different angle. If the 2nd task happens during the first hour of class, the 4th by the angle of the lights seems to happen later, after the second hour of class.


First hour


Second hour

 

[raavan1]

what do you say guys?. The light has a different angle. If the 2nd task happens during the first hour of class, the 4th by the angle of the lights seems to happen later, after the second hour of class.
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Correct bro

 

[meduusa]

Do you really think the dev is this thoughtful about every single detail? As I do in my renders (not Porn games) I just set the light as it suits the picture best...

 

[Juliano013]

quando lança?

 

[ancienregimele]

what do you say guys?. The light has a different angle. If the 2nd task happens during the first hour of class, the 4th by the angle of the lights seems to happen later, after the second hour of class.
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You're most likely right about the time. I've lowered my expectations for this task, which might be a case of "show me your stocking tops, now show the class." If so, the fact that Evelyn might see Sophia fiddling with her skirt could turn out to have a different kind of ramification, i.e. she might think that her teacher is a complete exhibitionist & tells Emma, who tells Dylan & so on. "Meh," I think is the accepted polite term on this thread.

 

[nexer]

Do you really think the dev is this thoughtful about every single detail? As I do in my renders (not Porn games) I just set the light as it suits the picture best...

This is the second possible explanation.

 

[nexer]

You're most likely right about the time. I've lowered my expectations for this task, which might be a case of "show me your stocking tops, now show the class." If so, the fact that Evelyn might see Sophia fiddling with her skirt could turn out to have a different kind of ramification, i.e. she might think that her teacher is a complete exhibitionist & tells Emma, who tells Dylan & so on. "Meh," I think is the accepted polite term on this thread.

To tell the truth, I'm waiting for Dylan/Ellie to find out something about Sophia, Ellie already knows something (Tyler). It would introduce a bit of drama into Sophia's life. Otherwise, the "consequences" after the 2nd solution could touch on this theme.

 

[Jude6]

what do you say guys?. The light has a different angle. If the 2nd task happens during the first hour of class, the 4th by the angle of the lights seems to happen later, after the second hour of class...

It's a good point
Though I wonder if it isn't the other way around, as the sun rises the light cast onto the floor would recede closer towards the windowed side of the room.
Looking at the kid in the black t-shirt and shorts in the front row, second from Sophia's right - in Hour 1 the light from the windows is visible on his ankles but in Hour 2 the light only just reaches the feet of Blue-shirt kid to his right - in the latest teaser the light from the window is half-way across Sophia's desk.

And yeah I'm pretty sure L&P would be thinking about these things, he prides himself on his attention to detail and he's been going crazy for the lighting in the last few updates (plus the amount of criticism he gets from us here when he makes continuity mistakes with the visuals).

 

[nexer]

It's a good point
Though I wonder if it isn't the other way around, as the sun rises the light cast onto the floor would recede closer towards the windowed side of the room.
Looking at the kid in the black t-shirt and shorts in the front row, second from Sophia's right - in Hour 1 the light from the windows is visible on his ankles but in Hour 2 the light only just reaches the feet of Blue-shirt kid to his right - in the latest teaser the light from the window is half-way across Sophia's desk.

And yeah I'm pretty sure L&P would be thinking about these things, he prides himself on his attention to detail and he's been going crazy for the lighting in the last few updates (plus the amount of criticism he gets from us here when he makes continuity mistakes with the visuals).

If I understand correctly, but looking at the pictures I think:



If the light tells the truth, this is after the second hour

 

[xxxorro]

what do you say guys?. The light has a different angle. If the 2nd task happens during the first hour of class, the 4th by the angle of the lights seems to happen later, after the second hour of class.
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We know that he really cares about this kind of details and you might be onto something here.
If you compare with the Literature lesson on the previous Friday (which is a good reference as if we assume a regular schedule, it took place at the same time as the upcoming one)

the sun is coming from "behind the blackboard":


In the second hour that day it didn't change much


In the first task, first class


and the second hour, still consistent with the sun moving from the back of the blackboard to the end of the classroom.


In the second task that you posted it's consistent again

and for the second hour


So for the teaser

it's more consistent with a second hour class or even later given the angle of the shadow wrt the floorboards. If anything, it should be way after all the other pictures because the sun seems to be more on the side of the back of the classroom.

Well, everything provided it's really something he's taking into account. It's the kind of thing you'd expect he will go crazy about. But he is also crazy about lighting, so it won't surprise me if he made a "poetic license" in this case to have a better picture

 

[ruhamuo]

My opinion is this
The newest teaser is obviously fishing

Because there was a video of Kanye in the catwoman costume scene, so I expected a strong motorcycle scene, but it didn't matter at all.

The scene with Aiden is not that important, and I think there will be hot scenes with people like school administrators and Bennett.

 

[Jude6]

nexer Ah yes yes, I see.
The windows are faced to the South/South-East so the sun moves left to right across.
Also the wood flooring does make it a lot more noticeable, thank-you xxxorro. I think we can rule out the earlier scenes for clues this deep since the lighting could be a bit flat in those days (literally years ago, after all)

Though now I just have more more questions -
This might be the first in-classroom task where Aiden doesn't give Sophia her actual challenge until the second half of the day's lesson, or maybe the preview is actually of Sophia putting herself 'back together' after completing the task (though that seems unlikely given how far along L&P was with renders when he put this preview out).
Maybe Aiden gives her a task to be completed in the school halls after the lesson, depending on who she runs into it could then lead into the bonus mini event.