VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Atton563]

Depends on what choices you made when the other soccer players made comments about Sophia and if you let Sam lie on her on the trampoline and did you invite him to come to the bikini photo shoot, if you let those things happen he will just hide and watch and jerk his little dick off. If you were strong in all of those choice maybe he will be the chosen one!!!!

Well I always made sure to let Sam and the others know just how much it pissed him off, I feel no self respecting boy would allow his own friends to talk about or lie on top of there mother like that i mean didn't we all get in fights in school whenever somebody said something about our moms?

So you think there could be a path where Sam and Zac get fuck all from Sophia and only Dylan gets laid because of those choices?

 

[Juidas]

Well I always made sure to let Sam and the others know just how much it pissed him off, I feel no self respecting boy would allow his own friends to talk about or lie on top of there mother like that i mean didn't we all get in fights in school whenever somebody said something about our moms?

So you think there could be a path where Sam and Zac get fuck all from Sophia and only Dylan gets laid because of those choices?

For sure only 1 person knows the answer and L&P arent saying so this is all speculation, but if Dylam has been strong then he wont let them be with his Mom alone but that then could mean that they all miss out, and if thats the choice then I am going back to make Dylan a wuss so we can see some action with either Sam (who I think will get some) or Zac (and probably he will as well)

 

[Atton563]

For sure only 1 person knows the answer and L&P arent saying so this is all speculation, but if Dylam has been strong then he wont let them be with his Mom alone but that then could mean that they all miss out, and if thats the choice then I am going back to make Dylan a wuss so we can see some action with either Sam (who I think will get some) or Zac (and probably he will as well)

Honestly I would rather see Sophia remain happy with Liam or only be with girls if Dylan's only shot with his mom is if he lets other guys use her like a bike.

 

[bayrischman]

Year 2023 for playable day 16

you, treaming. not for four jears

 

[Juidas]

Honestly I would rather see Sophia remain happy with Liam or only be with girls if Dylan's only shot with his mom is if he lets other guys use like a bike.

I dont think L&P would let her end up like that no matter what, but she may just help a little with their education

 

[Atton563]

I dont think L&P would let her end up like that no matter what, but she may just help a little with their education

Thats what I'm hoping for but she seems to have an actual attraction to both Sam and Zac at this point, It's looking like Dylan will be the one who gets the "education" while his friends and sister plus whoever else get more passion but I'm really hoping Dylan gets just as much love and attention from Sophia as Ellie even though she seems to be her moms favorite child.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

My reply just on this point :
'secondly also that 30 minutes tweaking per render, are not themselves a good thing'

I've had some information from designers who use DAZ3D, I think it's the same for other 3D tools that allow you to set up a scene. The adjustments, and in particular the light, are capital parameters on the quality of the final rendering.

I don't know if it takes more or less than 30 minutes.

At first I thought sometimes it was wasted time.
Now, with these new elements and the differences that I could see, I am convinced that there is an absolute necessity to spend at least this time to make these adjustments.

I know that there are certain presets, which allow you to do a lot of things. For example, to simulate different times of the day (twilight, dawn, morning, night, ...) , cold or warn atmosphere, etc.

It was just so that we had a better knowledge of the elements to take into account.

Thanks Apollodore for the clarification. For me it was never about the figure itself. It was more the way that I felt that L&P was boasting about the time as if that was in itself a good thing because it proves his pursuit of never-ending perfection.

This at the same time that L&P appeared to boast that this forthcoming "small" update had required an additional 56% of extra renders as if that was also in itself a good thing.

Until that post from L&P I have felt that I have supported and defended L&P consistently on this forum. I still enjoy his beautiful work but just feek he could get more out of his precious time by focussing and being more efficient (and ideally seeking help on the less important areas so that he can concentrate on his renders, but this dos not appear likely).

 

[Tennyson@]

you, treaming. not for four jears

Well he takes atleast 5-6 months for updates so yeah by the time he will reach playable day 16 it will be 2023 may or June for first sex scene with another male than Liam but on lesbian route maybe in version 190 we can have a sex scene in lesbian route(next year near Dec) hopefully

 

[You Don't See Me]

Some sort of exhibitionism/Voyeurism from Sophia

She stripped to a sneaky Sam before, showed him her areolas, so perhaps there will be another segment where she pushes it further by playing to Sam via his telescope. That would be kinda nice.

 

[Old Dog]

She stripped to a sneaky Sam before, showed him her areolas, so perhaps there will be another segment where she pushes it further by playing to Sam via his telescope. That would be kinda nice.

I have wondered when/if the tree house,telescope may play a part.

 

[You Don't See Me]

I have wondered when/if the tree house,telescope may play a part.

The sauna is fixed now too, so maybe!

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[Old Dog]

Just to throw a spanner in Rik Mayall and waterloo is really funny

 

[Atton563]

I have wondered when/if the tree house,telescope may play a part.

He would have to have really shitty eyesite to need the telescope to watch her considering he could get on to her balconey from his bedroom window. I'm convinced he was only in that treehouse recentley to watch her sun bathing but got caught and then invited himself around. His mother even said he never uses it anymore and they just haven't gotten around to ripping it down yet but Sam said he goes up there when his sister is practising ballet I'm inclined to believe the mom, He was 100% planning to jerk to Sophia but got caught.

 

[USser 64]

Ho everyone we know the percentual of the various event in the 0.130, but how many images will the next update contain for you?

 

[Turret]

Thanks Apollodore for the clarification. For me it was never about the figure itself. It was more the way that I felt that L&P was boasting about the time as if that was in itself a good thing because it proves his pursuit of never-ending perfection.

This at the same time that L&P appeared to boast that this forthcoming "small" update had required an additional 56% of extra renders as if that was also in itself a good thing.

Thumbs up for your post! L&P´s message rubbed me likewise the wrong way. He either never learned that sometimes less is more in storytelling or is using mass to obfuscate his stretching out of the development cycle.
L&P´s crowing about the 56% more renders drives home that he does not get there are scenes/chapters in a story or game where describing/showing too much lessen the impact of it. There are situations where you have to nudge the brain and/or imagination of the reader to get the best impression instead of hitting him/her with your own interpretation in the face.

L&P comes across as someone who is paid by word/picture count alone and that is sad. As I said it in my discussion with Bane71, L&P produces too many filler pics, especially remembering his rendering speed which is challenged by a snail. The pics all look great, but depending on the scene in question, 1/10-1/3 of the pics are fillers, showing some Kleinklein you would not miss, instead of focussing on the impact renders or different ways/perspectives of showing it.
If his rendering speed would be higher, it would not be good, but less problematic. Unfortunately, L&P´s working speed is so slow, that him showing (to say it very pointedly) Sophia admiring the morning lye roll on the table represents several days of L&P´s work, which will never play a role at all in the game.
He is either lost in details or is deliberately and slyly slowing down update output with it. It is painful to see that, because he seems to not understand that keeping this up, is unsustainable in the long run.

 

[Ivrol]

¿What if the game is now made by DLC and released part by part?

DLC List:
1) Nursing home (1st side job) OR home schooling (2nd side job)
2) Aiden's 3rd task (parallelly another surprise event)
3) Emma/Dylan OR Sophia/Dylan

This could help to the people to feel that the game doesn't take too long to be released and to create more speculation. It's a good or bad idea?

 

[Cold brew]

More than coincidence?

During the bikini show, Sophia wonders if Dylan is taking after Liam. Fashion show, Photography, etc.
1. When she leaps into her fantasy role, Sophia chooses to use the name Scarlett.
2. Later at Liam's office visit, it is shown that she knows Liam's secretary. See the events that follow behind the door. Liam's Secretary's name is...


So many ways to think about this, but I can quickly come up with three.

 

[Talcum Powder]

¿What if the game is now made by DLC and released part by part?

DLC List:
1) Nursing home (1st side job) OR home schooling (2nd side job)
2) Aiden's 3rd task (parallelly another surprise event)
3) Emma/Dylan OR Sophia/Dylan

This could help to the people to feel that the game doesn't take too long to be released and to create more speculation. It's a good or bad idea?

It's not a bad idea in principal, actually. It's a bad idea for this developer, however.

Spoiler: Not really a spoiler just some blowhard ranting and raving

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[ashitanojoe]

It's funny that nobody here stopped playing this game because they considered the first renders were bad. Everybody continued the story to the point of meet the new renders quality, which take a lot more time to make.

So, the question is:

Would you have preferred remaining with the old renders quality and having the double amount of content by now? Or do you prefer having the new renders quality despite of the slow development?