VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

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Talcum Powder said:
I think the whole Morello as an out for either of Sophia's extortionists doesn't hold an ounce of water. This especially doesn't make sense until Sophia/Liam have completely satisfied their debt. This is business, right? Why would Sophia be allowed to open up additional credit lines before satisfying the first line of credit? Doesn't make sense.

If Aiden really is connected in some way, and the cops certainly think that he is, then it seems likely that either,
  1. Morello intervening with Aiden would cause tension between two different syndicates - even if Morello is the larger and more powerful, he wouldn't want to engage in anything that provokes a competitor as that would upset the status quo. I cannot conceive of how or why Morello would risk tilting the applecart, let alone upending it, to "take care of" Aiden. This is dumb. Sorry gang, it's dumb.
  2. Aiden's connections are actually a part of Morello's syndicate, in which case he has a lot of sway and ending Aiden's extortion is actually no big deal for him. This is dumb, too. This is a ridiculously contrived convenience and dumbs down the jeopardy of this and every other bit of tension in the entire game. The author will have shown that there is no jeopardy for Sophia, she's got plot armor and the author has no problems waving the deus ex machina wand and sprinkling pixie dust over everyone to make difficult writing situations disappear. That's not dumb, that's lazy.
With Bennet, would Morello really pull in outsiders into his orbit? Why on earth would he risk entanglement with someone working for a municipal board of education? The fuck that Morello is going to get heavy with someone who can get the government involved in any way, however remotely and however limited that government involvement might be. It just creates an extra bit of hassle and exposes him and his organization to an additional bit of risk.

To provide a service to a debtor who hasn't satisfied their debt and provide a service that, if not rendered, does not in anyway change the probability of the debt being satisfied? Sorry to say, folks, the whole Morello as an out is stupid. It's deus ex machina, it's contrived, it's lazy, and it doesn't even make any sense anyway.
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Simple fact. The NY City School system is based out of Building 1 for the school system. No one knows how many people work there since many people draw a paycheck but, do not ever show up there. I will let you guess who they are really working for.

So Bennett and the School board is a piece of cake. Morello could take him out deep sea fishing and not bat an eye or just have someone go in and toss Bennett's apartment and leave a gift after every meeting with Sophia. He is smart he will figure it out. The only people that Morello and other 'Mobsters' worry about are the people that they don't control and can shoot them. So other Mobsters or straight cops, agents etc... .

Aiden is not connected with a syndicate. They would not tolerate a loose cannon like that and would crush him in a heartbeat if they thought Morello was getting perturbed. The guys at the top would have a nice chat and Aiden would get a message or "GET A MESSAGE". His uncle would be given a nice gift reminding him he is a lawyer and to stay in his lane or life will get a little dicey (and I ain't talkin' craps).

L&P is, as has already been said, either completely naive on how that part of society works or is just trying to slide a little of this in for flavor while smiling like a Cheshire cat.
 
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If he's not the boss, Aiden's uncle is protected by his connections, and Morello can't be very far down a hierarchical ladder in San Alejo.
Carl knows about Aiden's uncle, let alone Morello.
So, one of Aiden's uncle's bosses is Morello.
 
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KillJoys said:
It must be very small then if L&P has not even posted it and he has said himself that this update will have 4 events but lets wait and see what Dr.Fapalot can find out.
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Here is his update from 10.4.2020
Update 0.150

(Afternoon)
1) Nathalie
2) Dylan/Ellie (very small side event)
3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)

(Evening)
4) Sam

L&P: Then I will also approximately know the volume of every event and can name you the percentage share of the four main events of 0.150.

1) Nathalie 30%
2) Dylan/Ellie 20%
3) Sam 35%
4) Cathy/Andy 15%

I'll ask him, but I don't know if the bonus is the Cathy/Andy update. But Cathy/Andy event is supposed to take place in the evening and not the afternoon, per the in-game dialog.
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
Here is his update from 10.4.2020
Update 0.150

(Afternoon)
1) Nathalie
2) Dylan/Ellie (very small side event)
3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)

(Evening)
4) Sam

L&P: Then I will also approximately know the volume of every event and can name you the percentage share of the four main events of 0.150.

1) Nathalie 30%
2) Dylan/Ellie 20%
3) Sam 35%
4) Cathy/Andy 15%

I'll ask him, but I don't know if the bonus is the Cathy/Andy update. But Cathy/Andy event is supposed to take place in the evening and not the afternoon, per the in-game dialog.
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Ask him gently now, as you know how sensitive he can be
 
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So back to Sam's event... :)

What do you guys think that will likely happen?
I'm not talking about the logistics, whether he gives Sophia a drive home, a detour to a special spot, a walk on the beach etc etc. This are details that help to set the mood but let's forget that for a minute.

I think the general consensus is that they will have an alone moment, in any of the above or other settings.
What do you think will happen then?

Given the progression of Sam's story it's almost trivial to suggest a kiss. He had a lot of touching (the guitar lesson, the pool, the fashion show), a kiss on the cheek (pool) and a bit a "visual stimuli" (the balcony, the areola and the fashion show). It seems natural that the next step is a kiss, given that this is, supposedly, the "romantic" path (even if we know he is not that innocent) and of course sex is not happening.

Now, I see two main ways it can happen (we know that alcohol might be involved but it won't be play a role like in past event Bane71 ):
  1. the "usual" way: if we look at the patterns throughout the game, most of Sophia's interactions with... let's call them the youngsters ;) always happen as a sort of request: Can we kiss (Ellie, Julie), Can you show this and that (Dylan, Sam, Mayer's boys). Only Dylan and Emma stole a kiss, even if in different context and circumstances.
    So following that pattern I can imagine Sam being romantic and all, talking about the concert, the song he might have dedicated to her and getting back to the "impossible" relationship talk of the pool, the longing for her etc and finally asking with puppy eyes for "just a kiss". That will start the usual Sophia internal dilemma and the choice is offered to give in.
  2. the "romantic" way: a little bit as above with Sam being romantic, maybe if the place helps (like the beach) Sophia will be in awe and warmed up (also the song) and Sam could try a more direct approach like at the pool, starting to feel Sophia's arms with his hands, and slowly leaning in for a kiss either on the lips or on the neck (Sophia's weak spot). At that point Sophia has the choice to give in and let it happen. (Sorry it sounds a bit more romantic in my head but writing is definitely not my skill... I hope you get what I mean ;) )
That's for the kiss.
Now, before the previous update I would say that's enough, after all it's a big step for Sophia as it is the first time she kisses a male that is not her husband willingly.

But considering the change of pace of this PD, I wouldn't be surprised if things can escalate a bit farther. Sophia, once she decides to kiss, can be really carried away by the kiss and Sam can dare something more, like slowly sliding his hand under Sophia shirt to finally touch the objects of his desires. ;)
Depending on Sophia dress we could even imagine that he manages to expose one breast for a kiss, while Sophia is completely overwhelmed by the moment of passion.
The limit for me is, as I said before, a very "light third" base, with Sam, e.g., getting to feel her inner thigh, like Tyler did at the club. If not exactly that, something in the same range.

Then Liam's call can bring Sophia back to reality as it as been discussed (for example).

What do you guys think?
Reasonable (considering the pace of the game, not our wishes)? Too much? Too conservative? :)
 
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