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wait so lazy and passive is going to spend 2 months on this scene which you shouldnt have "high hopes" for?
is this a joke?
is this a joke?
he cant. When has L&P ever been right about a deadline?
This is a december release making it 2 releases per year. Next year you get a release in june/july and another one in january 2023.
This is going the "Come Inside" game route, minus the monthly wallpapers.
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I stand by it. HOWEVER, DLC content doesn't count. It has to be in the next release.Everything is forever on the internet. Taking screenshot now.
It does seem absurd. I often think you're too negative Viper, but it's a bad look for a dev to tell people "Hey, this scene that I've been working on for two months? Yeah, don't expect too much."wait so lazy and passive is going to spend 2 months on this scene which you shouldnt have "high hopes" for?
is this a joke?
Im not negative, I'm a realist. We should all know by now what to expect from L&P which is not much.
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He hasn't been right in a long time. I think he is just trying to be optimistic instead of realistic. The graph that Talcum Powder uses probably gives the best projection so far. It's most likely will be in late Nov. or Dec. But two 1/3 releases and a P.D. that took over one year to complete is terrible.
As I said before, did he really need 79+ characters to interact or corrupt Sophia?
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Sure, but this is new. Cutting a scene short so that additional content is only available via DLC, he hasn't done that yet. Coach Sophie is one thing, but that never really got off the ground. This scene with Sam has been in the works for a long time, and now he's going to only partially complete it and leave the rest for a undefined DLC? That's bold.
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If the release slips into mid-December, then I think there's a good chance it slips all the way to January as the Holidays always interrupt everything.
Looks like he is back to his regular schedule now. Although, this is the 1st time in two years that I'm actual not enthused about an update. Not a fan of the Sam route fan and the more I see the teasers is just a reminder of so.
"IF" ?
Man it's lazy&passive, we all know how this is going to work out in the end.
Delays
Some issues hiring an actual translator despite the fact there is dozens free to work.
He "hires" some "american friend from discord" and then takes a month to translate something 2 pages a day, 3 pages if they are both working really hard.
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Speaking of which...
The trend shows that the release date is slipping further into the future with each passing day and this has been the trend since the start of the third week of this development cycle. I don't see how this speeds up given the complexity and number of characters inside that bar. And then the entirely new environment of Andy/Cathy's apartment. Even if it is a ready-made loadable scene he still has his custom lighting system to work out and selecting the artwork to hang on the walls. We also have to consider the drive (home? Andy/Cathy's?) - there may be some car interior scenes at night, yet another something I believe we haven't seen before. The lighting for that could be very intricate.
| Pct Complete | Factor | Pct of Update | |
| Created Scenes | 60% | 55% | 33.00% |
| Rendered Scenes | 55% | 25% | 13.75% |
| Art edited with PS | 15% | 5% | 0.75% |
| Programming & Translation | 0% | 15% | 0.00% |
| Total Pct of Update Completed | 47.50% | ||
| Start Date | 7/5/2021 | ||
| Festival of Bullshit (excuses) | 0 | ||
| Bullshit Days Consumed so far | 0 | ||
| Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed) | 66 | ||
| Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit | 0 | ||
| Estimated Completion Date | 11/20/2021 |
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At present I believe the real problem is the number of characters in this scene, setting up the location took him a lot less time than most expected. This scene shouldn't be long, around 12-15 % of the 35% in my opinion. The remaining half will have less characters which will improve things a little. Also after what KillJoys shared with us I hardly speculate a car drive with Sam. Though lighting can be tough I would expect that he has figured out a lot about it by now, since that's what he is most focused about everytime. I should no longer take him as much time.
The Cathy scene is also not going to have a lot of characters, so I expect that to be decently paced once the location is setup.
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Regrettably, I cannot bring myself to share your optimism. I’m keeping in mind the slowing trend started with the earlier events which are assumed to be set entirely in and around the Parker home, familiar settings.
I gather from the shared Patreon posts that he is lowering expectations and it sounds(to my reading) that at least the Sam event is being scaled back from the initial plan. If that’s the case we can start to speculate on what effect that will have on the overall impact of the scene and also what other compromises might be made.
Two years ago this was slated to be a major event. Six months ago it was all a fiery defense of the process and the story. Now, it may be cut short and available through dlc at some unspecified time in the future. Sounds like he may be burning out on the story and just not as excited by it anymore.
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After all, I like to think optimistically, and I guess L&P was thinking something when he claimed it would be ready by October. Let's just assume that the bar scenes are the most elaborate and the next scenes with him and Sophia take place somewhere that doesn't require much effort. In the car, on the beach, on a hill, on the balcony, ...
The event with Cathy/Andy takes place in their apartment. So maybe just the living room. Considering all that... maybe it could work out with October after all.
Worst case scenario, if Sophia gets into Sam's car they will drive away and the scene between them will take place somewhere else. Look where Sam's car is parked, anyone could take a look
The scene is identical to the one with the leather suit, it adds but has no effect on the later course of events.
From the beginning it was not realistic to have something in public between Sophia and Sam (dancing, ...), the events had to take place in private between the two.
The scene is identical to the one with the leather suit, it adds but has no effect on the later course of events.
From the beginning it was not realistic to have something in public between Sophia and Sam (dancing, ...), the events had to take place in private between the two.
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Whereas I find being pessimistic far more pragmatic, particularly when it comes to L&P. Take the last three updates for example. The evidence we had was that the Ellie/Julia event was just going to be the two sunbathing. Maybe Sophia spied on them. What we got was one of the hottest scenes in the game so far. And Sophia's first dick besides Liam (in the Alyssa event).
Evidence for the v.115 update for something hot was Ellie waiting to join Sophia in the shower. Nudity was assured, but there was only indications it was just going to be a shower. What we got instead was a whole bunch of Ellie's backstory, and her jilling herself off. And Sophia accepting a kiss from Ellie without hesitation. And in the prison event, even if just a fantasy sequence, the first scene of Sophia having sex with someone besides Liam.
Evidence for v.130 of something hot was nil, and at least for me, I was expecting 5 minutes of content. Turns out I got 10.
This update, the closest I'm expecting to hot content is Nat admitting she has the hots for Sophia and actively flirting with/teasing her. Maybe Cathy and Andy admitting they want to sleep with Sophia too.
Might my predictions be wrong? Sure, I'm only going by the evidence L&P gives us. Might the update be hotter that I'm predicting? Wouldn't be the first time, but I count that as a pleasant surprise, so a win. And if my predictions are also right, that's also a win. Either way, I'm not disappointed, and people being disappointed seems to happen a lot right after an update is released. I learnt that lesson after Emma joined the Aiden route.
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He's not the only one, thanks to the new normal of 1 year for less than 1 playable day. It's strange when you think of what a powerhouse goldmine this could be, not that he doesn't make a decent amount & I know it's not all about the money, but still..... Fan art/stories are appearing all over the net, testifying to this VN's popularity & that's without much forward momentum from the game itself.
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Here you can see the whole dimension of the scene. It's really tough working with it. To render it I even had to NVLink my two GPUs, becauce the 24 GB VRAM of a single one were too little for it. I'm glad when it's over and I move to part 2 of the event which will be much easier to work with.
By this statement I take it that L&P has only been using 1gpu to render, so my question is why is he only using 1 gpu ?
Was all of this just for bragging rights?
If this bar event is not that important there is a lot of things that the dev could of done to reduce rendering times without the use of NVlink
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It seems that over the past six months, that 5% of progress has been the hardest for L&P!
I really hope that Sabertooth__ is right and further things will go much faster!
In any case, the release in October, at the moment, looks completely unrealistic.
Despite the fact that I am quite optimistic myself and I like the optimism of Hlextor.
In any case, reading the discussion of the events of this evening, assumptions, what and how can happen at Sam and Sofia, what is waiting for us at the apartment of old friends? It becomes quite obvious that the topic is being discussed by adults, those who have forgotten their youth, those who have left their adventurer spirit somewhere in the past!
My friends, I do not want to offend anyone, but I really hope that L&P is still young enough for the spirit of adventurism to help him write an exciting story for us, which will return us to our youth and make the heart beat faster with excitement!
We can agree with this, but I hope that in the future updates will be released a little faster than we expect.
I think 79 characters are needed by L&P not to corrupt Sofia, but to tell us an interesting story.
In any case, friends, I think this evening will be interesting and exciting! Events will develop non-linearly. This evening may open up a topic for DLC, add points in relation to the sisters, but it will focus more on the relationship between Sam and Sofia. Besides, in my opinion, Sam and Sofia can meet after Sofia and Liam leave their friends ' apartment.
This is quite real and let's keep in mind that visiting old friends can be quite fun!
Despite the fact that we had to wait so long for progress of 5%, let's not despair and be upset. There is something interesting ahead of us.
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What concerns me for the future of AWAM is that (as I've said before) by the time L&P'll get to the scenes that will really sell the game, they will already be obsolete. By taking so long, and being so obstinant, he's already a generation behind. Close to two generations behind now.
Some may have noticed I recently swapped out my AWAM sig for DDoS. I was really hesitant to do so, but it was ultimately how L&P interacts with his supporters that lead to the switch. Turns out the dev for DDoS is incredibly supportive of fan art (like many of the devs I've encountered, takes it as a compliment, and free advertising), and releases the asset list he uses. Also has a more realistic blackmail route, and hotter threesomes. Yes, plural, there are already two in the game after about a year and a half of game development.
And I'm only looking at FemProtag lesbian games. I don't even need to bother to look to know the likelihood that there is certainly more out there for those looking for straight routes.