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wait so lazy and passive is going to spend 2 months on this scene which you shouldnt have "high hopes" for?
is this a joke?
is this a joke?
he cant. When has L&P ever been right about a deadline?25% CS and 30% for Rendering. But you're right, he still has a lot to do for this event, and the bar only moved 5% for CS eight days after his last update. I really don't see how he could make October unless he implements "DLC" or cuts the story really short.
I stand by it. HOWEVER, DLC content doesn't count. It has to be in the next release.Everything is forever on the internet. Taking screenshot now.
It does seem absurd. I often think you're too negative Viper, but it's a bad look for a dev to tell people "Hey, this scene that I've been working on for two months? Yeah, don't expect too much."wait so lazy and passive is going to spend 2 months on this scene which you shouldnt have "high hopes" for?
is this a joke?
Im not negative, I'm a realist. We should all know by now what to expect from L&P which is not much.I stand by it. HOWEVER, DLC content doesn't count. It has to be in the next release.
It does seem absurd. I often think you're too negative Viper, but it's a bad look for a dev to tell people "Hey, this scene that I've been working on for two months? Yeah, don't expect too much."
He hasn't been right in a long time. I think he is just trying to be optimistic instead of realistic. The graph that Talcum Powder uses probably gives the best projection so far. It's most likely will be in late Nov. or Dec. But two 1/3 releases and a P.D. that took over one year to complete is terrible.he cant. When has L&P ever been right about a deadline?
This is a december release making it 2 releases per year. Next year you get a release in june/july and another one in january 2023.
This is going the "Come Inside" game route, minus the monthly wallpapers.
Sure, but this is new. Cutting a scene short so that additional content is only available via DLC, he hasn't done that yet. Coach Sophie is one thing, but that never really got off the ground. This scene with Sam has been in the works for a long time, and now he's going to only partially complete it and leave the rest for a undefined DLC? That's bold.Im not negative, I'm a realist. We should all know by now what to expect from L&P which is not much.
If the release slips into mid-December, then I think there's a good chance it slips all the way to January as the Holidays always interrupt everything.He hasn't been right in a long time. I think he is just trying to be optimistic instead of realistic. The graph that Talcum Powder uses probably gives the best projection so far. It's most likely will be in late Nov. or Dec. But two 1/3 releases and a P.D. that took over one year to complete is terrible.
As I said before, did he really need 79+ characters to interact or corrupt Sophia?
Looks like he is back to his regular schedule now. Although, this is the 1st time in two years that I'm actual not enthused about an update. Not a fan of the Sam route fan and the more I see the teasers is just a reminder of so.He hasn't been right in a long time. I think he is just trying to be optimistic instead of realistic. The graph that Talcum Powder uses probably gives the best projection so far. It's most likely will be in late Nov. or Dec. But two 1/3 releases and a P.D. that took over one year to complete is terrible.
As I said before, did he really need 79+ characters to interact or corrupt Sophia?
"IF" ?If the release slips into mid-December, then I think there's a good chance it slips all the way to January as the Holidays always interrupt everything.
Speaking of which...He hasn't been right in a long time. I think he is just trying to be optimistic instead of realistic. The graph that Talcum Powder uses probably gives the best projection so far. It's most likely will be in late Nov. or Dec. But two 1/3 releases and a P.D. that took over one year to complete is terrible.
As I said before, did he really need 79+ characters to interact or corrupt Sophia?
Pct Complete | Factor | Pct of Update | |
Created Scenes | 60% | 55% | 33.00% |
Rendered Scenes | 55% | 25% | 13.75% |
Art edited with PS | 15% | 5% | 0.75% |
Programming & Translation | 0% | 15% | 0.00% |
Total Pct of Update Completed | 47.50% | ||
Start Date | 7/5/2021 | ||
Festival of Bullshit (excuses) | 0 | ||
Bullshit Days Consumed so far | 0 | ||
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed) | 66 | ||
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit | 0 | ||
Estimated Completion Date | 11/20/2021 |
At present I believe the real problem is the number of characters in this scene, setting up the location took him a lot less time than most expected. This scene shouldn't be long, around 12-15 % of the 35% in my opinion. The remaining half will have less characters which will improve things a little. Also after what KillJoys shared with us I hardly speculate a car drive with Sam. Though lighting can be tough I would expect that he has figured out a lot about it by now, since that's what he is most focused about everytime. I should no longer take him as much time.Speaking of which...
The trend shows that the release date is slipping further into the future with each passing day and this has been the trend since the start of the third week of this development cycle. I don't see how this speeds up given the complexity and number of characters inside that bar. And then the entirely new environment of Andy/Cathy's apartment. Even if it is a ready-made loadable scene he still has his custom lighting system to work out and selecting the artwork to hang on the walls. We also have to consider the drive (home? Andy/Cathy's?) - there may be some car interior scenes at night, yet another something I believe we haven't seen before. The lighting for that could be very intricate.
Pct Complete Factor Pct of Update Created Scenes 60% 55% 33.00% Rendered Scenes 55% 25% 13.75% Art edited with PS 15% 5% 0.75% Programming & Translation 0% 15% 0.00% Total Pct of Update Completed 47.50% Start Date 7/5/2021 Festival of Bullshit (excuses) 0 Bullshit Days Consumed so far 0 Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed) 66 Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit 0 Estimated Completion Date 11/20/2021
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Regrettably, I cannot bring myself to share your optimism. I’m keeping in mind the slowing trend started with the earlier events which are assumed to be set entirely in and around the Parker home, familiar settings.At present I believe the real problem is the number of characters in this scene, setting up the location took him a lot less time than most expected. This scene shouldn't be long, around 12-15 % of the 35% in my opinion. The remaining half will have less characters which will improve things a little. Also after what KillJoys shared with us I hardly speculate a car drive with Sam. Though lighting can be tough I would expect that he has figured out a lot about it by now, since that's what he is most focused about everytime. I should no longer take him as much time.
The Cathy scene is also not going to have a lot of characters, so I expect that to be decently paced once the location is setup.
After all, I like to think optimistically, and I guess L&P was thinking something when he claimed it would be ready by October. Let's just assume that the bar scenes are the most elaborate and the next scenes with him and Sophia take place somewhere that doesn't require much effort. In the car, on the beach, on a hill, on the balcony, ...Regrettably, I cannot bring myself to share your optimism. I’m keeping in mind the slowing trend started with the earlier events which are assumed to be set entirely in and around the Parker home, familiar settings.
I gather from the shared Patreon posts that he is lowering expectations and it sounds(to my reading) that at least the Sam event is being scaled back from the initial plan. If that’s the case we can start to speculate on what effect that will have on the overall impact of the scene and also what other compromises might be made.
Two years ago this was slated to be a major event. Six months ago it was all a fiery defense of the process and the story. Now, it may be cut short and available through dlc at some unspecified time in the future. Sounds like he may be burning out on the story and just not as excited by it anymore.
Whereas I find being pessimistic far more pragmatic, particularly when it comes to L&P. Take the last three updates for example. The evidence we had was that the Ellie/Julia event was just going to be the two sunbathing. Maybe Sophia spied on them. What we got was one of the hottest scenes in the game so far. And Sophia's first dick besides Liam (in the Alyssa event).After all, I like to think optimistically, and I guess L&P was thinking something when he claimed it would be ready by October. Let's just assume that the bar scenes are the most elaborate and the next scenes with him and Sophia take place somewhere that doesn't require much effort. In the car, on the beach, on a hill, on the balcony, ...
The event with Cathy/Andy takes place in their apartment. So maybe just the living room. Considering all that... maybe it could work out with October after all.
He's not the only one, thanks to the new normal of 1 year for less than 1 playable day. It's strange when you think of what a powerhouse goldmine this could be, not that he doesn't make a decent amount & I know it's not all about the money, but still..... Fan art/stories are appearing all over the net, testifying to this VN's popularity & that's without much forward momentum from the game itself.Two years ago this was slated to be a major event. Six months ago it was all a fiery defense of the process and the story. Now, it may be cut short and available through dlc at some unspecified time in the future. Sounds like he may be burning out on the story and just not as excited by it anymore.
It seems that over the past six months, that 5% of progress has been the hardest for L&P!
We can agree with this, but I hope that in the future updates will be released a little faster than we expect.He hasn't been right in a long time. I think he is just trying to be optimistic instead of realistic. The graph that Talcum Powder uses probably gives the best projection so far. It's most likely will be in late Nov. or Dec. But two 1/3 releases and a P.D. that took over one year to complete is terrible.
I think 79 characters are needed by L&P not to corrupt Sofia, but to tell us an interesting story.As I said before, did he really need 79+ characters to interact or corrupt Sophia?
What concerns me for the future of AWAM is that (as I've said before) by the time L&P'll get to the scenes that will really sell the game, they will already be obsolete. By taking so long, and being so obstinant, he's already a generation behind. Close to two generations behind now.He's not the only one, thanks to the new normal of 1 year for less than 1 playable day. It's strange when you think of what a powerhouse goldmine this could be, not that he doesn't make a decent amount & I know it's not all about the money, but still..... Fan art/stories are appearing all over the net, testifying to this VN's popularity & that's without much forward momentum from the game itself.
The 79+ characters play a part in interaction and corruption as well as it tells the story. How do you think you acquire all the GW/Filthy points in the novel? The question is could he have told the story with fewer characters? There are other VNs out there that have less character and delivers the same quality in both Story and Visual.I think 79 characters are needed by L&P not to corrupt Sofia, but to tell us an interesting story.