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Not in this update. Not only would it be a huge jump for Sophia, but with the event at Andy & Cathy's later that evening I don't think Sophia would risk it.Could be some skinny dipping in the Parkers pool possibly?!!
Not in this update. Not only would it be a huge jump for Sophia, but with the event at Andy & Cathy's later that evening I don't think Sophia would risk it.Could be some skinny dipping in the Parkers pool possibly?!!
Cathy and Andy could have a pool.Not in this update. Not only would it be a huge jump for Sophia, but with the event at Andy & Cathy's later that evening I don't think Sophia would risk it.
Wouldn't it be a kick in the pants if the two scenarios were combined? I have long felt that a good follow-up to the swimming lesson scene would be a skinny dip shared by Sophia and Sam. It would be moonlit and romantic using the same palate as we saw in the dream sequence Sam relayed to Sophia, and would include the foreshadowing of Sophia defrocking for Sam with him alone as the audience. So...what if Sam and Sophia do have the skinny dipping scene, and it is made clear that the Robinsons are home next door? Taking this a step farther and Liam comes home to take Sophia to Andy and Cathy's. There is no place to go to change quickly into the swimsuits except for the treehouse. While in the treehouse Sam and Sophia share a boob fondling kiss before re-frocking only to emerge innocently clad in swimwear from the backyard to meet Liam in the kitchen.Could be some skinny dipping in the Parkers pool possibly?!!
My interpretation was that Sonny was insinuating that instead of action in the tree house, Sam could get some action via skinny dipping.Cathy and Andy could have a pool.
Sorry Bane71 but, this does not float. I have walked out of movies that were crap and had big name actors. I have simply selected the news channel or OFF instead of watch some crap on the tube. Millions spent on the production. How many remember the movie Jabberwocky? The concern here is not his artistic ability or desire. The concern is he is unaware (being nice here) of the time frame he is in for completing this work. This is not the Sistine Chapel and he sure ain't Michelangelo. But if we are to see an actual story fulfilled (other than some more fap items) he will have to increase production rate. As an individual it will be difficult but, he can increase some with a bit of project management. (Complete the written element would be a start.) If he gets a team it may, repeat, may be achievable. Any other result starts to justify Viper-whatever rants that I guess are the same as in April.We can talk and argue about this forever, but this does not change the fact that the creation of AWAM is primarily a creative work! This means that for the creator, for L&P, at least at this stage, the result is more important than the amount of time spent for this. That's why we call him a perfectionist.
Again, we can afford to give different assessments of the work and human qualities of L&P, but I have never heard in my life that someone leaving the cinema was outraged that several years were spent on creating a film, and the viewing lasted only 1 hour!
In the case of L&P, this happens all the time.
Every time I explain that the critics are not always right, they accuse me and call me an agent of L&P, but I'm just trying to point out that we criticize L&P are absolutely limitless in the criteria of criticism, but we consider it permissible and require L&P to correspond to a very narrow framework of our preferences. Accordingly, each of us has our own evaluation criteria.
That is why I urge us not to be so categorical in our criticism, but unfortunately, these simple judgments of mine are not clear to some people.
I am fine with a healthy debate and agree or disagree - it's all good.I feel pretty much everything wrong with what you said.
Sophia does not see Dylan as a man because he is her SON. No mother sees her son as man just because he is good at sports, or got 3 goals or sneaked in a kiss. That kiss didn't even last a second, what passion would be in it.
All of this happened at a very initial phase of the Dylan route, where Sophia only saw him as her son. It is After the bikini event Sophia started seeing that her son can also be mature and not just a whining boy.
People who believe Dylan's personality changed all of a sudden and it was unrealistic. How much do we know Dylan's character. Do people really believe they can decide for sure who is what based on a mere character introduction and few short scenes. We all thought Ellie to be the kind who is sexually active and has probably had sex with many guys seeing how she was all making out Infront of her mother with a guy she just met. Then comes the revelation that she is a virgin. So just assuming what Dylan is based on the initial days of the game and calling anything new about the character as poorly written or incorrect is not right.
When he stood up for her against the hobos it finally tipped the scale towards Dylan being recognised as a man by her.
It would be the case for any mother, the difference would be a normal mother won't think sexually about this but Sophia's thought are a bit leaning towards that.
There has been gradual progression and no out of nowhere huge event for Dylan. Slowly and steadily things have moved and I just don't understand why most people consider even the smallest if things as a sign of something huge.
They stop thinking like an actual human but more like the characters of the porn game, making a mountain out if molehill, with only how every word could mean that the dev is insinuating sex between two characters.
He could also use Alyssa and Zac to break down Sophia's resistance to an incestuous relationship with Dylan. I suspect that Alyssa and Zac also have an incestuous relationship. But he is unlikely to implement this proposal/idea, unfortunately.I am fine with a healthy debate and agree or disagree - it's all good.
This is an erotic novel where incest is part of the story - we just don't know all the specifics yet since this is L&Ps story to tell. Potential storylines include:
between two sisters (Sophia and Patricia)
between mother and daughter (Sophia and Ellie)
between mother and son (Sophia and Dylan)
Saying that no mother looks at her son as a man in real life is not true but it is far less common now - and certainly not acceptable in present day mainstream Western society (at least the thought process that sees the son as not just a man but as a potential sex partner). There were times when it was more common and acceptable (powerful families and dynasties kept things in the family through intermarriage to preserve power and wealth, for example).
Let's set that aside though.
You don't make any argument that incest is not going to happen, but you are trying to use real life societal norms to explain Sophia's thoughts and feelings when she is clearly on a path to some number of incestuous relationships.
Did Sophia get jealous of Amber's attention and affection for Dylan at the end of the chicken fight? YES! (and this is where the Sophia/Dylan path had ended so it makes much more sense for her to Not have those feelings here - since she effectively rejected any incestuous relationship with Dylan by going the boarding school route).
So why not have something similar or showing even more jealousy for the Sophia/Dylan path?
Where are the other bread crumbs that lead up to Hobo fight?
L&P has created a branching story including two Dylan paths and he could have added in, with almost no effort, Sophia's introspection where she starts to see Dylan as a man, ahead of the boarding school decision that continues or ends the Sophia/Dylan path. Sophia's story is Not mainstream real life - so saying that she would not have those thoughts is imposing a mainstream world view on a family well outside the mainstream view of what family means - it is a non sequitur, it does not follow. I recognize it is not what you want given how you view the story but that does not invalidate my stated perspective just because I see it differently.
Sophia could have rejected any thoughts of how hot Dylan's soccer moves were ahead of the boarding school decision, seeing only how he is growing into a man.
Once she decided to keep him in school (rejecting boarding school and continuing with the Sophia/Dylan path), other chances to view Dylan as a man and to see some of what he is doing as 'hot' would not be always be rejected because her thought process would be evolving.
I believe that minimal additional story-telling work by L&P could have laid a better trail of bread crumbs (showing her changing perspective) to the Hobo defense event than it did.
He could have simply used existing renders with added introspection to capture the change in her perspective.
(This is yet another place where L&P could have used the opinion of a trusted advisor, in this case to help refine AWAM's story and improve the Sophia/Dylan story arc.)
I stand by my view that the Hobo defense was too much like a magic switch versus the character evolution we are seeing with other Sophia relationships.
He could have used the Yoga event as well. The way Patricia was looking at him and her actions. Plus, she made comments about Dylan looking at Sophia and her. He could have build off of that as well. But as you said, Alyssa and Zac would be better suited for this theme.He could also use Alyssa and Zac to break down Sophia's resistance to an incestuous relationship with Dylan. I suspect that Alyssa and Zac also have an incestuous relationship. But he is unlikely to implement this proposal/idea, unfortunately.
I did say in my lines that a mother can look at her son as a man but almost always it is in a non sexual way. The societal norms do play a part as well in the story, since this is no logic less porno, the effort is to project Sophia as a real human. If societal norms were to be completely ignored them this game wouldn't have been the slowburn it is. The mother son sex scene would have happened a lot earlier in the game just like it happens in others.I am fine with a healthy debate and agree or disagree - it's all good.
This is an erotic novel where incest is part of the story - we just don't know all the specifics yet since this is L&Ps story to tell. Potential storylines include:
between two sisters (Sophia and Patricia)
between mother and daughter (Sophia and Ellie)
between mother and son (Sophia and Dylan)
Saying that no mother looks at her son as a man in real life is not true but it is far less common now - and certainly not acceptable in present day mainstream Western society (at least the thought process that sees the son as not just a man but as a potential sex partner). There were times when it was more common and acceptable (powerful families and dynasties kept things in the family through intermarriage to preserve power and wealth, for example).
Let's set that aside though.
You don't make any argument that incest is not going to happen, but you are trying to use real life societal norms to explain Sophia's thoughts and feelings when she is clearly on a path to some number of incestuous relationships.
Did Sophia get jealous of Amber's attention and affection for Dylan at the end of the chicken fight? YES! (and this is where the Sophia/Dylan path had ended so it makes much more sense for her to Not have those feelings here - since she effectively rejected any incestuous relationship with Dylan by going the boarding school route).
So why not have something similar or showing even more jealousy for the Sophia/Dylan path?
Where are the other bread crumbs that lead up to Hobo fight?
L&P has created a branching story including two Dylan paths and he could have added in, with almost no effort, Sophia's introspection where she starts to see Dylan as a man, ahead of the boarding school decision that continues or ends the Sophia/Dylan path. Sophia's story is Not mainstream real life - so saying that she would not have those thoughts is imposing a mainstream world view on a family well outside the mainstream view of what family means - it is a non sequitur, it does not follow. I recognize it is not what you want given how you view the story but that does not invalidate my stated perspective just because I see it differently.
Sophia could have rejected any thoughts of how hot Dylan's soccer moves were ahead of the boarding school decision, seeing only how he is growing into a man.
Once she decided to keep him in school (rejecting boarding school and continuing with the Sophia/Dylan path), other chances to view Dylan as a man and to see some of what he is doing as 'hot' would not be always be rejected because her thought process would be evolving.
I believe that minimal additional story-telling work by L&P could have laid a better trail of bread crumbs (showing her changing perspective) to the Hobo defense event than it did.
He could have simply used existing renders with added introspection to capture the change in her perspective.
(This is yet another place where L&P could have used the opinion of a trusted advisor, in this case to help refine AWAM's story and improve the Sophia/Dylan story arc.)
I stand by my view that the Hobo defense was too much like a magic switch versus the character evolution we are seeing with other Sophia relationships.
This is a well thought out reply. The Sophia and Dylan jogging scene replete with an impossible Dylan affection threshold, a sudden increase in Dylan confidence and the hobo smackdown feels like a repeatable scene we have seen in other games. The kind of scene that is introduced knowing that the first time you see it you can't yet have it and you grind for affection points in order to obtain the repeatable event. By the time the player does have the affection points the confidence, Sophia's reactions and smackdown ability makes sense.I am fine with a healthy debate and agree or disagree - it's all good.
This is an erotic novel where incest is part of the story - we just don't know all the specifics yet since this is L&Ps story to tell. Potential storylines include:
between two sisters (Sophia and Patricia)
between mother and daughter (Sophia and Ellie)
between mother and son (Sophia and Dylan)
Saying that no mother looks at her son as a man in real life is not true but it is far less common now - and certainly not acceptable in present day mainstream Western society (at least the thought process that sees the son as not just a man but as a potential sex partner). There were times when it was more common and acceptable (powerful families and dynasties kept things in the family through intermarriage to preserve power and wealth, for example).
Let's set that aside though.
You don't make any argument that incest is not going to happen, but you are trying to use real life societal norms to explain Sophia's thoughts and feelings when she is clearly on a path to some number of incestuous relationships.
Did Sophia get jealous of Amber's attention and affection for Dylan at the end of the chicken fight? YES! (and this is where the Sophia/Dylan path had ended so it makes much more sense for her to Not have those feelings here - since she effectively rejected any incestuous relationship with Dylan by going the boarding school route).
So why not have something similar or showing even more jealousy for the Sophia/Dylan path?
Where are the other bread crumbs that lead up to Hobo fight?
L&P has created a branching story including two Dylan paths and he could have added in, with almost no effort, Sophia's introspection where she starts to see Dylan as a man, ahead of the boarding school decision that continues or ends the Sophia/Dylan path. Sophia's story is Not mainstream real life - so saying that she would not have those thoughts is imposing a mainstream world view on a family well outside the mainstream view of what family means - it is a non sequitur, it does not follow. I recognize it is not what you want given how you view the story but that does not invalidate my stated perspective just because I see it differently.
Sophia could have rejected any thoughts of how hot Dylan's soccer moves were ahead of the boarding school decision, seeing only how he is growing into a man.
Once she decided to keep him in school (rejecting boarding school and continuing with the Sophia/Dylan path), other chances to view Dylan as a man and to see some of what he is doing as 'hot' would not be always be rejected because her thought process would be evolving.
I believe that minimal additional story-telling work by L&P could have laid a better trail of bread crumbs (showing her changing perspective) to the Hobo defense event than it did.
He could have simply used existing renders with added introspection to capture the change in her perspective.
(This is yet another place where L&P could have used the opinion of a trusted advisor, in this case to help refine AWAM's story and improve the Sophia/Dylan story arc.)
I stand by my view that the Hobo defense was too much like a magic switch versus the character evolution we are seeing with other Sophia relationships.
L&P also confirmed that Sophia was not jealous of Amber. The question was asked and answered at the time.I did say in my lines that a mother can look at her son as a man but almost always it is in a non sexual way. The societal norms do play a part as well in the story, since this is no logic less porno, the effort is to project Sophia as a real human. If societal norms were to be completely ignored them this game wouldn't have been the slowburn it is. The mother son sex scene would have happened a lot earlier in the game just like it happens in others.
She is on the path of being in numerous incest relationships but back then the corruption was not enough for her to have acknowledged Dylan as a man just because he is good at sports etc. That's my point, the beach changing room event, the trial room event, the bikini event, and then the changing with Dylan in the house, clearly shows progression of how Sophia is acknowledging more and more though for the sex ed theme. On day 19 after the fight all those feelings that are building towards Dylan tipped for a second towards her seeing Dylan as a potential partner. But that was only for a brief second, no flip switch. Sophia thought about it a gang bang as well but doesn't mean if she is presented with guys then she would actually do it. A lot of things as person you think about but with absolutely no intention of actually making it a reality in that moment. Dylan's thought in her mind didn't even last a second. So no big issue is there to be made to begin with.
The amber scene, Well you see it as being jealous, but that's not the case. Sophia's dialogue if you read is along the lines of "Is amber trying to flirt with my son". No mother will actually be very happy with that scenario, but the line is no way projects jealousy, it only projects a curiosity as to what is amber trying to do. Ofcourse if Sophia were to make a move on Sam Infront of amber she would also be curious and a bit worried about what is Sophia trying to do. So there's no mistake on the path there
It could of been interesting if Sophia had of beenL&P also confirmed that Sophia was not jealous of Amber. The question was asked and answered at the time.
It would have made no sense for her to be jealous if the Dylan route is closed but yes still intresting. However seeing another women (her best friend no less) flirting with her son and having Sophia get jealous of Amber having Dylans eye and knowing that he is going to be thinking more about another woman from then would make more sense, This would make a better Sophia/Dylan path in my opinion and could have Sophia lightly teasing and flirting with him in an attempt to win back his attention from Amber and things can escalate from there. I know thats not going to happen but I think having Sophia be the one to presue Dylan without realising she's doing it at first makes a better Mom/Son incest story than the overused horny Son seduces hot Mom or the Sex Ed tropes.It could of been interesting if Sophia had of been
It's a tough one to predict as it will likely be a follow up from the other Dylan events that preceed it, we will most likely be seeing Sophia receive the promised massage from Dylan and maybe some time in the hot tub, but before that we have Sophia taking Dylan with her to see Claire and Marie so prehaps the two events build up to something at night? Dylan's massage could get Sophia feeling pretty good and she becomes a little aroused at his touch (he has shown to be good with his hands with the 1st massage) add to that at the salon Sophia could have become jealous seeing Claire and Marie flirting and teasing him and Dylan enjoying it maybe she joins in although since this is I believe a Sophia event that Dylan is just present for it might not go that way then again maybe I'm wrong and it counts as one of his? This could build up to Sophia going to hang out with Dylan in his room to chat or get another massage or even just play video games with him but Dylan keeps talking about Marie or Claire making his Mom jealous again and doing something to get him thinking of her instead? I mentioned in my above post that Sophia being the one to start persuing Dylan without realising it could make this route better and set it apart from the other hetro storys maybe this is the way to go about it instead of having Dylan, Sam, Zac and Aiden all repating the same steps?So friends, what are the assumptions about the event of Sofia and Dylan for the evening of the next day?
Who is ready to share their thoughts on this matter?
Very realistic!It's a tough one to predict as it will likely be a follow up from the other Dylan events that preceed it, we will most likely be seeing Sophia receive the promised massage from Dylan and maybe some time in the hot tub, but before that we have Sophia taking Dylan with her to see Claire and Marie so prehaps the two events build up to something at night? Dylan's massage could get Sophia feeling pretty good and she becomes a little aroused at his touch (he has shown to be good with his hands with the 1st massage) add to that at the salon Sophia could have become jealous seeing Claire and Marie flirting and teasing him and Dylan enjoying it maybe she joins in although since this is I believe a Sophia event that Dylan is just present for it might not go that way then again maybe I'm wrong and it counts as one of his? This could build up to Sophia going to hang out with Dylan in his room to chat or get another massage or even just play video games with him but Dylan keeps talking about Marie or Claire making his Mom jealous again and doing something to get him thinking of her instead? I mentioned in my above post that Sophia being the one to start persuing Dylan without realising it could make this route better and set it apart from the other hetro storys maybe this is the way to go about it instead of having Dylan, Sam, Zac and Aiden all repating the same steps?
I could see how some people could walk away with being Jealous. However, if you look at the photo with Sophia, IMO, These are Jealous looks than being curious. I would have guessed Jealousy with the look on her face and the text used in the sentence (Humph.) Also, When a person is Jealous, they tend to crash or block the thing they don't like to see.The amber scene, Well you see it as being jealous, but that's not the case. Sophia's dialogue if you read is along the lines of "Is amber trying to flirt with my son". No mother will actually be very happy with that scenario, but the line is no way projects jealousy, it only projects a curiosity as to what is amber trying to do. Ofcourse if Sophia were to make a move on Sam Infront of amber she would also be curious and a bit worried about what is Sophia trying to do. So there's no mistake on the path there
Sorry should have explained better, Sophia would be using video games or the sort as an excuse to meet him in his room and speak the days earlier events. I think a kiss is way more possible and likely than touching her kitty, she could ask about his feelings for Marie and find out he is intimidated by her experience and the fact he has never kissed a girl, Sophia could then suggest she give him his first kiss to take away his fear and have the usual monalogue to her self about how its best for him, this way the sex ed path that seems to be likely can still develop but in my opinion the Sophia/Dylan story becomes better with her taking the lead. He could also catch up to Ellie and maybe Sam depending how the second music lesson goes.Very realistic!
But L&P was talking about the HOT event of the evening of the 13th day!
Playing computer games is unlikely to develop into something hot.
Massage is another thing! By doing a massage, Dylan can bring Sofia to such a state that she will eventually allow him to massage her breasts and this can develop quite according to a realistic scenario with some preparation when visiting Claire and Marie.
But the question is, is something more possible? Kissing or touching the pussy? It would be really hot!
You have expressed one very correct point and it will be an oversight on the part of L&P if the host is Dilana, and not Sophia.Sorry should have explained better, Sophia would be using video games or the sort as an excuse to meet him in his room and speak the days earlier events. I think a kiss is way more possible and likely than touching her kitty, she could ask about his feelings for Marie and find out he is intimidated by her experience and the fact he has never kissed a girl, Sophia could then suggest she give him his first kiss to take away his fear and have the usual monalogue to her self about how its best for him, this way the sex ed path that seems to be likely can still develop but in my opinion the Sophia/Dylan story becomes better with her taking the lead. He could also catch up to Ellie and maybe Sam depending how the second music lesson goes.