VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[nexer]

Yep, but I wonder why he can't show a preview from the Dylan event, considering he has done that in the past.

He would push his luck with Patreon rules.

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[ancienregimele]

Sophia didn't come with Liam and 6 minutes was a record for him. Liam brags. The two young men have no experience but they can fuck her all night long.

This is one of the issues with the 'energetic virgins.' I see their lack of experience as necessitating Sophia taking the lead, to show them what to do. (Looking at others having sex in films &/or reading about it is, as we know, not an adequate training regime for the real thing). If she does coach them, it makes her look, shall we say, "a bit odd," (that's an attempt at causing little offence to the fans who would rather have Sophia making love with apprentice-like boys, as opposed to experienced grown-up men).

One answer would be for some of these boys to lose their virginity before a full-on sexual encounter with the MC. Dylan fans should be pleased he's getting a girlfriend for this very reason but even then it's going to take some time before he could reasonably expect to get it on. Maybe Amber can teach him a thing or two?

 

[nexer]

No, it's isn't the same thing.

1) I saw the coaching job as a way to consolidate the story. Currently there are numerous characters that need individual events in order for Sophia to interact with them. The coaching job would have made it easier for characters like Sophia, Dylan, Zach, Alyssa, Ellie, and others, to all be in the same place at the same time. This could have saved L&P time in drawing/rendering new environments and writing new events in order for Sophia to see certain characters. Instead, L&P could have used a routine coaching job as a convenient way for everyone to interact and progress relationships.

2) The coaching job provided a great excuse to cut the meandering nursing home storyline. Unless this storyline makes huge progress in this upcoming update, it will have been a waste of time. Eliminating this storyline would not only streamline the story, it would also eliminate characters that are adding nothing to the story and open up opportunities for Sophia to spend more time with characters that matter.

3) Even IF I'm being inconsistent (which I'm not) it still doesn't explain how a storyline like the coaching job could be introduced and then canceled all within one update. If he didn't have a concrete plan for the coaching job from the very beginning he should never have introduced it. I said this from the very beginning, that I felt it was odd to casual throw this new storyline out there but tell everyone that the story may not be developed. This is terrible, TERRIBLE, planning.

IMO, it's soccer coaching, so Ellie's not around. The big problem is if you refuse 2/3rd task and Dylan/Zac stay home. Because Coaching without them is not very credible, more, it would take at least two events for something more interesting.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I was interested in the coaching event; I don't like the change of plans; especially if the plot was already written

 

[Atton563]

Sophia didn't come with Liam and 6 minutes was a record for him. Liam brags. The two young men have no experience but they can fuck her all night long.

Just becuse they are young does not mean they can last longer than Liam by any means quite the opposite actually becuse they are likely to become overwhelmed by the sensation and cum early, Sure they could get hard again quicker than Liam could but Sophia could become easily bored if she has to keep waiting for her partner to get it up again.

This is one of the issues with the 'energetic virgins.' I see their lack of experience as necessitating Sophia taking the lead, to show them what to do. (Looking at others having sex in films &/or reading about it is, as we know, not an adequate training regime for the real thing). If she does coach them, it makes her look, shall we say, "a bit odd," (that's an attempt at causing little offence to the fans who would rather have Sophia making love with apprentice-like boys, as opposed to experienced grown-up men).

This was my thinking she is basically wanting to have toe curling eye rolling sex and she can't do that if she has to walk somebody through pleasing a woman and almost certainly be left unsatisfied by the encouter.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

IMO, it's soccer coaching, so Ellie's not around. The big problem is if you refuse 2/3rd task and Dylan/Zac stay home. Because Coaching without them is not very credible, more, it would take at least two events for something more interesting.

I was looking down the road, I think there would be plenty of ways to find an excuse to get Ellie to the practices if it would help advance the story. It would be too convenient not to.

I was interested in the coaching event; I don't like the change of plans; especially if the plot was already written

It's pretty clear to me that nothing has been written outside of a general outline. I think the idea that L&P has written the story in full is false; he has something like an outline but nothing more. His approach to scenes and entire updates is of someone that is writing the details of the story as he goes.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I think the idea that L&P has written the story in full is false

 

[nexer]

This is one of the issues with the 'energetic virgins.' I see their lack of experience as necessitating Sophia taking the lead, to show them what to do. (Looking at others having sex in films &/or reading about it is, as we know, not an adequate training regime for the real thing). If she does coach them, it makes her look, shall we say, "a bit odd," (that's an attempt at causing little offence to the fans who would rather have Sophia making love with apprentice-like boys, as opposed to experienced grown-up men).

One answer would be for some of these boys to lose their virginity before a full-on sexual encounter with the MC. Dylan fans should be pleased he's getting a girlfriend for this very reason but even then it's going to take some time before he could reasonably expect to get it on. Maybe Amber can teach him a thing or two?

True, some sex before would be ideal, but even with a previous intercourse if you're not born with little talent you need more practice.
But I'd come up with a counterexample.The viagra scene, it would have been normal for Dylan to come very quickly. What I mean is that neither he nor Sam immediately comes in their pants when they see a naked woman.
Plus, the foot massage scene, Dylan showed that he can control himself and that his intention is to give pleasure in the first place.

 

[You Don't See Me]

Sophia is a high school teacher and former college lecturer. She comes from a wealthy academics family. In this new town, she will be gradually confronted with many delicate situations, both familial and extra-familial, full of temptations and taboos, accompanied by the mother of all questions: what’s really right and what’s really wrong? An odyssey of emotions.
So, will she stay the good, faithful wife or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon? Some decisions maybe have to be made unwillingly.
And in the end, she has to ask herself… how far can she go.

This is the basic foundation of the game, lest we forget.

 

[nexer]

Just becuse they are young does not mean they can last longer than Liam by any means quite the opposite actually becuse they are likely to become overwhelmed by the sensation and cum early, Sure they could get hard again quicker than Liam could but Sophia could become easily bored if she has to keep waiting for her partner to get it up again.

Absolutely. I finished my military service and we went whoring with some buddies. I mention this because we were all in our 20s and, as it was a longer period without women, we all had to walk with our mast up. All but one. No guarantees but the statistics play in Sophia's favor

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[PietruccioTheHilander]

He would push his luck with Patreon rules.

source?

 

[nexer]

source?

A guess. Besides the teaser there would be comments about the event on the page.

 

[joaco96]

Has someone the list of events for the next day?

 

[Deleted member 3516371]

I hope i get a chance to see lesbian sex actions on the update 130 if not it won't be worth it

 

[Atton563]

I hope i get a chance to see lesbian sex actions on the update 130 if not it won't be worth it

I think we are quite aways from any sex that isn't with Liam at the minute although lesbian sex will most likely be the first action we see but I still think that is at least a year if not two away so don't get your hopes up.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

He could choose an picture where Dylan is not there.
Maybe there is also an important element, and that he prefers that we have the surprise.

So I took a trip into L&P's Patreon Past post, and here are some things I can share. He didn't share any previews from his major event (ver. 0.085 8/22/2019) with Sopha/Dylan because he didn't want to hint about the mall scene and the flashing of her breast to Dylan. The Pool/Bikini event wasn't really a major event as it wasn't really on the same level as the mall event, so he did follow up with a preview pick for the pool/bikini scene.



Also, Here a post for people who want to re-think what Aiden's task could be. It's going to have to be something somewhat big to prevent Dylan from going to boarding school and get her to stop Aiden's task. If I had to guess, I think it might be in the line of a stripper scene show maybe just showing and she a toy may be involved for of Aiden and his gang or Aiden alone and possibly walk away with evidence that she was blackmail into doing this for him, but that just a guess on my part.

 

[Deleted member 3516371]

I think we are quite aways from any sex that isn't with Liam at the minute although lesbian sex will most likely be the first action we see but I still think that is at least a year if not two away so don't get your hopes up.

Sophia and Patricia or Sophia and Ellie

 

[ancienregimele]

True, some sex before would be ideal, but even with a previous intercourse if you're not born with little talent you need more practice.
But I'd come up with a counterexample.The viagra scene, it would have been normal for Dylan to come very quickly. What I mean is that neither he nor Sam immediately comes in their pants when they see a naked woman.
Plus, the foot massage scene, Dylan showed that he can control himself and that his intention is to give pleasure in the first place.

Well, that scene with Dylan & his prolonged erection was another example of realism taking a break. I began to feel impatient, along with Sophia, that he was taking so long to reach a climax. I started to think he must have been studying with a master of tantric sex, or perhaps that viagra had been a bad batch. Speaking of which, my guess is that however fast the lads can 'get back up,' it's going to be the third attempt at least before they can have anything like the self-control to fulfil theirs & Sophia's desires.

My point about Sophia looking odd was not explicit enough, because any delays could be a time to have second thoughts about exactly what the hell she thinks she's doing, especially in Dylan's case. What feels like eons ago, I wrote a scenario where Sophia could have sex with Dylan to comfort him as a result of him being broken-hearted after breaking up with his first girlfriend &/or first love. Despite the distaste of some for consolation sex, I still see this as the most realistic option with her own son & it would be a once only event & secret between them.

Presumably Dylan & Sam know enough to use their fap material to indulge in preparatory masturbation as a means to avoid premature ejaculation. This could help, if it occurred a few hours or a day, before they shagged Sophia. They would, however, have to know what was "coming" (pun intended), which would cancel any story of spontaneous passion. IMO that's the only way Sam is ever going to get lucky, unless Sophia actually tells him when & where they're going to have sex & I can't see that happening, unless she has become the "whore" most of us don't want to see.

It becomes too technical after a while, all this speculation about the mechanics of a successful sexual encounter. It's a real passion killer! Sophia should talk to Liam & get him to practice some orgasm delaying techniques. At Liam's age he should have read up on these, or at least got some advice but obviously he hasn't & Sophia probably finds it too difficult a subject to bring up. An adult man bragging about lasting six minutes was another departure from realism BUT this is where I came in.