Sadowdark

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I think what ancienregimele means is that without Aiden's blackmail route, which won't see any additional content until atleast Monday (PD16?), the game is currently way too focussed on "shota" content and/or content involving incest. That, or lesbian content, which isn't everyone's cup of tea either.

This game is starving of spicy hetero scenes including actual adults for quite some time now, and the only thing coming remotely close to that in the past, uhm, 2 years(roughly?) is Aiden's blackmail route, or the hideout meeting in particular on PD13. Aiden himself could probably be counted in the same category as Sam, but Sam's route is too romantic for my taste, so I much prefer Aiden events as I'm not playing this game to see the MC fall in love with a teenager. I'm in it for an intriguing corruption story, otherwise I could just read a romance novel. But that might just be me.

Even the Museum event on PD14 doesn't give much hope for that to change, unless L&P decides to maybe alter their appearance to look older. Last time we saw Jason&Haru, they looked about the same age as Dylan&Sam I'd say...been years since I've seen them, so chances are my memory isn't quite right. But other than that? Like ancienregimele said, Bennett's route has been cut short, and god knows if we'll ever see other adult characters like Janitor Clark, Principal Johnson, the Movers, DeShawn, Carl...and so on, in action again.

Let's be real here. You talk about Aiden's route as if we'll see PD16 within the next few months. Realistically speaking, PD16 is EASILY 4 years away. This game's been in development for just over 5 years, and I have my doubts that we'll ever see Aiden's 5th task, let alone any decent sexual (by that I mean flirting/teasing, as actual sex is a decade away) content including actual adults.

Edit: Oh, I forgot one event. Sidejob nr.1 aka Old-farts. Isn't this supposed to happen on PD14? This might actually be fun considering that Sophia is likely going to wear a sexy nurse costume. Who knows. (I wish there was a link on page 1 with all the information about upcoming PD's....I keep forgetting)
Sam's route is romantic for now, Sam has the character of a Rokmen, he will use Sophia and abandon her. He will find another destination. Will I see Aiden in 5 years? if the game is not abandoned. More spicy stuff Sophia will get in side events than in the main story. That is the goal of L&P
 

xxxorro

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The comment about the Salon event is interesting, considering that the only way for Marie not to show interest in Dylan is to play Dylan's POV. You even get all 3 Marie points by playing Sophia's POV, and the interest from Marie for Dylan to come to future yoga meets.
This event is really complex as there are two different story-lines intertwining and it's difficult to get all the subtle details. That's why when Mr.Gamer__ was looking for inspiration I suggested that question.

Basically, both storylines will have as default outcome most of the lewd content (the peeping, the shower etc). At the very beginning when you choose the POV he sets the default variable for what is supposed to happen **in the other** POV
Python:
menu day18_Yoga_playing_as_Dylan_or_Sophia:
    "{b}{color=#000000}Play the event from Sophia's point of view":
                    $ day18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = True
                    $ day18_Dylan_watches_women_showering = True
                    $ day18_Dylan_saw_Marie_naked = True
                    pass
    "{b}{color=#000000}Play the event from Dylan's point of view":
                    $ day18_Sophia_looked_at_Maries_body = True
                    $ day18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = False
                    pass
So by default:
  • on Sophia's POV Dylan will peep on the ladies in the changing room.
  • on Dylan's POV Sophia will look at Marie's body during the shower.
This mean that if in each route you always take the lewd option (who doesn't??) in the other route those things are happening.
BUT what is specific to each route are the points that you get for the choices. Only on Dylan's POV you can get marie points, only on Sophia's POV you can get lesbian points (related to Marie).

The common factor between the two is Patricia. As usual she plays a very important role, in a way similar to Sam's concert in which if you don't allow her flirting you cannot progress in the hot tub. Here the important moment is the decision to leave or not the hand on her breast, which happens on both POVs. This grants the patricia point that unlocks, for both POVs, the option for Sophia to shower with them, and hence for Dylan to watch them.

There is another patricia point granted if Sophia showers and it is also added in both POVs. So in that regard the chosen POV is indifferent for progressing Patricia's relationship. Another reason for that is that otherwise without those 2 points you cannot get the invitation for Zoey's ranch on Sunday.

So to recap, this is the outcome for the 2 story-lines provided that for each you make the lewd choices.

Sophia's POVDylan's POV
day18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = Trueday18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = False
patricia = 14 (+2 points)patricia = 14 (+2 points)
lesbian +2 points
(watching Marie changing and in the shower)
day18_Sophia_looked_at_Maries_body
day18_Dylan_joins_yoga
day18_Dylan_saw_Marie_naked
day18_Dylan_watches_women_showering
day18_Dylan_saw_his_aunt_naked
marie = 3
(note that you can ignore her and still get the peeping)

For the next event at Claire's, **it is possible** that the event will happen regardless the previous choice Alyssa Vs Yoga and then the event will play out differently if you have at least 3 marie points to continue Marie/Dylan path. Otherwise I guess it will be rather short, with some dialogues while they get the hairs done.
Incidentally, I don't know if the event is also an "excuse" for an upgrade of the hair asset of the characters, new hair-style etc like it happened for Dylan in the past.


If anyone is interested here is the flowchart of the event. Warning, it's a mess! ;)
yoga event.png
 
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AB96

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I hate to unnecessarily bump a thread but are there any good scenes or is it still a tease? I last played version 0.115 and now there seems to be 2 parts.
 

Alley_Cat

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This event is really complex as there are two different story-lines intertwining and it's difficult to get all the subtle details. That's why when Mr.Gamer__ was looking for inspiration I suggested that question.

Basically, both storylines will have as default outcome most of the lewd content (the peeping, the shower etc). At the very beginning when you choose the POV he sets the default variable for what is suppose to happen **in the other** POV
Python:
menu day18_Yoga_playing_as_Dylan_or_Sophia:
    "{b}{color=#000000}Play the event from Sophia's point of view":
                    $ day18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = True
                    $ day18_Dylan_watches_women_showering = True
                    $ day18_Dylan_saw_Marie_naked = True
                    pass
    "{b}{color=#000000}Play the event from Dylan's point of view":
                    $ day18_Sophia_looked_at_Maries_body = True
                    $ day18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = False
                    pass
So by default:
  • on Sophia's POV Dylan will peep on the ladies in the changing room.
  • on Dylan's POV Sophia will look at Marie's body during the shower.
This mean that if in each route you always take the lewd option (who doesn't??) in the other route those things are happening.
BUT what is specific to each route are the points that you get for the choices. Only on Dylan's POV you can get marie points, only on Sophia's POV you can get lesbian points (related to Marie).

The common factor between the two is Patricia. As usual she plays a very important role, in a way similar to Sam's concert in which if you don't allow her flirting you cannot progress in the hot tub. Here the important moment is the decision to leave or not the hand on her breast, which happens on both POVs. This grants the patricia point that unlocks, for both POVs, the option for Sophia to shower with them, and hence for Dylan to watch them.
There is another patricia point granted if she showers and it is also added in both POVs. So in that regard the chosen POV is indifferent for progressing Patricia's relationship. Another reason for that is that otherwise without those 2 points you cannot get the invitation for Zoey's ranch on Sunday.

So to recap, this is the outcome for the 2 story-lines provided that for each you make the lewd choices.

Sophia's POVDylan's POV
day18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = Trueday18_Yoga_Sophias_POV = False
patricia = 14 (+2 points)patricia = 14 (+2 points)
lesbian +2 points
(watching Marie changing and in the shower)
day18_Sophia_looked_at_Maries_body
day18_Dylan_joins_yoga
day18_Dylan_saw_Marie_naked
day18_Dylan_watches_women_showering
day18_Dylan_saw_his_aunt_naked
marie = 3
(note that you can ignore her and still get the peeping)

For the next event at Claire's, **it is possible** that the event will happen regardless the previous choice Alyssa Vs Yoga and then the event will play out differently if you have at least 3 marie points to continue Marie/Dylan path. Otherwise I guess it will be rather short, with some dialogues while they get the hairs done.
Incidentally, I don't know if the event is also an "excuse" for an upgrade of the hair asset of the characters, new hair-style etc like it happened for Dylan in the past.


If anyone is interested here is the flowchart of the event. Warning, it's a mess! ;)
View attachment 2089549
While you might only get Marie points by playing Dylan's POV, the conversation between Sophia and Marie at the end of the shower is the same as if you had all three points. The only reason for tracking Marie points that I saw was that the player can make the choice for Dylan to be a "moron" (Patricia's word) and not hit on Marie.

There are players that choose for Dylan not to be a sneaky little shit and perv on the women. One of my own personal issues with the event was that the players of Sophia's POV can't make that choice.
 
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xxxorro

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While you might only get Marie points by playing Dylan's POV, the conversation between Sophia and Marie at the end of the shower is the same as if you had all three points. The only reason for tracking Marie points that I saw was that the player can make the choice for Dylan to be a "moron" (Patricia's word) and not hit on Marie.
Yes that's another inconsistency of the scene as in Dylan's POV you need the points to get her to say so. I thought it was more a either a slip or just a casual chit chat under the shower. In Sophia's POV Dylan is peeping but he cannot join the yoga exercises and have the interactions with Marie. I thought it would be strange that either way there could be a route with Dylan/Marie without those interactions. Let's see in few months if this information will be confirmed.
 

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Yes that's another inconsistency of the scene as in Dylan's POV you need the points to get her to say so. I thought it was more a either a slip or just a casual chit chat under the shower. In Sophia's POV Dylan is peeping but he cannot join the yoga exercises and have the interactions with Marie. I thought it would be strange that either way there could be a route with Dylan/Marie without those interactions. Let's see in few months if this information will be confirmed.
Well, I find it strange that Dylan is there at all, at least for those that aren't playing the Dylan route. If you send Dylan to boarding school, his reason for being there is that he spent all his bus fare at an arcade. Which to me makes him look like a retard, which I don't think he deserves.

I would have much rather had a few extra renders of him being missing from the event, then him meeting Marie at the Salon update after this one and hitting it off with her.
 
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ancienregimele

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WTF? AIDEN had the biggest part in Part 2. He will be back on Monday and then probably every game day as well. There are many blackmail parts already why do you even want another one? It is boring if all the routes are the same. That is also something many other corouption games suffer from.

My Idea with the Mom Swap would make sense giving Amber and Dylan and Sam and Sophia and it would be an interesting new developent. I really like the Aiden Arc so far. We are at Task 4 or 5 out of 12!!!!! for him. He will always play a big part in this game just like Dylan and SAm. These are the main male routes this game has
Because I don't like incest, I play virtually any other route, except shota, which I like a whole lot less. If by "many blackmail parts" you mean two, one of which has a protagonist who hasn't been seen for several years & has been deliberately reduced in content, with the other not to be seen again for around 5 years, I find myself in disagreement. I don't want any more blackmail paths, which is what you seem to infer. I just want the existing routes to work properly, i.e. without huge gaps which destroy interest & immersion, plus a touch more 'realism.' That's not unreasonable IMO. I was in favour of Bennett being the blackmailer, with an adult's POV but things changed.

When I started playing AWAM in 2017, there was no blackmail in the stories at all, unlike many games where it kicks in early. IMO, from the time it was introduced there has been no boring surplus, except perhaps in the view of the vociferous anti-blackmail lobby, who no longer need to encounter it, yet still complain. Back then the VN/game seemed designed to appeal to a wide range of tastes & ages, unlike now with the emphasis on a teen audience & a straightforward porn game approach.

One of the key differences between AWAM & other corruption games I've played has been the continual criticising of blackmail from would-be white knights, potential kink-shamers & fans who simply just don't like it. I understand that but this is a corruption game & blackmail is as common in the genre as incest, perhaps even more so. It must be something about Sophia that makes people feel this way. Maybe she's on a pedestal, dressed as a goddess?

It used to be the case that we waited for Sophia to have an extra-marital affair, or at least "a fling" & assumed that it would be with an adult. Wrong again....so far.

Your idea for the swap wouldn't have to be ignored in order to include more blackmail, so there's no clash there, both should be possible.
 

ancienregimele

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I think what ancienregimele means is that without Aiden's blackmail route, which won't see any additional content until atleast Monday (PD16?), the game is currently way too focussed on "shota" content and/or content involving incest. That, or lesbian content, which isn't everyone's cup of tea either.

This game is starving of spicy hetero scenes including actual adults for quite some time now, and the only thing coming remotely close to that in the past, uhm, 2 years(roughly?) is Aiden's blackmail route, or the hideout meeting in particular on PD13. Aiden himself could probably be counted in the same category as Sam, but Sam's route is too romantic for my taste, so I much prefer Aiden events as I'm not playing this game to see the MC fall in love with a teenager. I'm in it for an intriguing corruption story, otherwise I could just read a romance novel. But that might just be me.

Even the Museum event on PD14 doesn't give much hope for that to change, unless L&P decides to maybe alter their appearance to look older. Last time we saw Jason&Haru, they looked about the same age as Dylan&Sam I'd say...been years since I've seen them, so chances are my memory isn't quite right. But other than that? Like ancienregimele said, Bennett's route has been cut short, and god knows if we'll ever see other adult characters like Janitor Clark, Principal Johnson, the Movers, DeShawn, Carl...and so on, in action again.

Let's be real here. You talk about Aiden's route as if we'll see PD16 within the next few months. Realistically speaking, PD16 is EASILY 4 years away. This game's been in development for just over 5 years, and I have my doubts that we'll ever see Aiden's 5th task, let alone any decent sexual (by that I mean flirting/teasing, as actual sex is a decade away) content including actual adults.

Edit: Oh, I forgot one event. Sidejob nr.1 aka Old-farts. Isn't this supposed to happen on PD14? This might actually be fun considering that Sophia is likely going to wear a sexy nurse costume. Who knows. (I wish there was a link on page 1 with all the information about upcoming PD's....I keep forgetting)
Yes, that's what I meant!
 
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