Even if the updates are slow, this is still hands down the best out there. Loved the prison part.
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The issue with this game isn't how short the updates are necessarily or how little sex or nude scenes there are, but how large the gap is between the updates. That's the biggest problem, otherwise it is one of the games that I am the most excited for
NLT delivers more content in his monthly updates than L&P does in his half yearly , new ICSTOR in the making
I have only 2 questions:
how long will the next update take?
and what events will I be in it?
how long will the next update take?
and what events will I be in it?
Let me start by saying i have stopped supporting this dev.
Today, i saw a lot of productive criticism with the main argument being that this small update took 100+ days to be completed, but guys this is something you already knew that beforehand when he announced that he will split each day in 3 updates. Even if, at first, you hoped that now he will change the delays between the updates, it was clear during the end of October that a different approach has not taken place as far are his production methods is concerned.
Yes he provides a good story with good quality of pictures, but i believe he has reached a point in this project that it is impossible to please more than 20-30 % of people each update. In particular, he has created so many branches with so many characters, side jobs and as a result each update improves the story of 2-3 characters and sometimes create even more branches. Just think that each update he is creating new places. Actually he is spending most of the time creating new places. Other devs have created from the start the places because they know how time consuming they are, and yet this dev keeps creating so many update after update. Why on earth did he have to create a smaller sauna and not use the one he has already created.
Furthermore, he is young and he knows this is a profitable project for him, which is why this project is going to take years to be completed. Personally i don't support this approach of such long projects, that's why i am done supporting him. However, this doesn't apply to you if you have no problem waiting years to see some progress.
Imagine each day split in 3 updates and each update being released per 1.5 - 2 months, then the slow (instead of having sex with strangers 10 mins into the game) swift from faithful wife to cheating would seem reasonable and acceptable. This is just a speculation, or maybe a dream that will never take place.
In conclusion, the dev's bad habbits of spending too much time creating environments and the fact that he has created such an expanding universe full of characters and branches are the main reasons (for me) that this project might be completed in the long future or more likely be abandoned due to inevitable burnout in 2-3 years. I hope i am wrong.
Happy new Year to everybody
p.s. Sorry for any typo mistakes, but English is not my native language
Today, i saw a lot of productive criticism with the main argument being that this small update took 100+ days to be completed, but guys this is something you already knew that beforehand when he announced that he will split each day in 3 updates. Even if, at first, you hoped that now he will change the delays between the updates, it was clear during the end of October that a different approach has not taken place as far are his production methods is concerned.
Yes he provides a good story with good quality of pictures, but i believe he has reached a point in this project that it is impossible to please more than 20-30 % of people each update. In particular, he has created so many branches with so many characters, side jobs and as a result each update improves the story of 2-3 characters and sometimes create even more branches. Just think that each update he is creating new places. Actually he is spending most of the time creating new places. Other devs have created from the start the places because they know how time consuming they are, and yet this dev keeps creating so many update after update. Why on earth did he have to create a smaller sauna and not use the one he has already created.
Furthermore, he is young and he knows this is a profitable project for him, which is why this project is going to take years to be completed. Personally i don't support this approach of such long projects, that's why i am done supporting him. However, this doesn't apply to you if you have no problem waiting years to see some progress.
Imagine each day split in 3 updates and each update being released per 1.5 - 2 months, then the slow (instead of having sex with strangers 10 mins into the game) swift from faithful wife to cheating would seem reasonable and acceptable. This is just a speculation, or maybe a dream that will never take place.
In conclusion, the dev's bad habbits of spending too much time creating environments and the fact that he has created such an expanding universe full of characters and branches are the main reasons (for me) that this project might be completed in the long future or more likely be abandoned due to inevitable burnout in 2-3 years. I hope i am wrong.
Happy new Year to everybody
p.s. Sorry for any typo mistakes, but English is not my native language
- Jul 12, 2020
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To upset you further, he didn't 'create' anything...he uses primarily bought assets from places like Daz/Renderosity etc. So no time at all was spent creating anything excepting posing the scene then rendering it. IF...and it's a huge IF...he actually was creating his own assets within a 3D program such as Max or Blender...then fair enough but, he isn't.
- Apr 21, 2020
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I decided to re-enter the game and missed something. Who can tell me what I'm doing wrong? After the casino, Sofia is waiting for Liam at home, and I want to go to the club with Patricia and Ellie, but I don't have that opportunity. How can i do this?
- Feb 25, 2017
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I rarely, very rarely, comment here, but man, I'll say it once again ; too much wait for too little satisfaction. This is hopeless. It's not a matter of months now, but a matter of years, if we want to see something worth the wait. And the great question is, shall we be there when that time comes ? With Covid19 and everything bad that's hitting the world, tomorrow doesn't belong to us and personally, I'd better bet on other titles and move on to do something else rather than stressing my mind for the future scenario of a game. That being said, happy new year everyone. Take care.
This is actually makes my perception towards him even worse. Thank you for the info. I hope people see this.
- Jul 21, 2017
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Anything good happen in this update? or is the fan game still better?
I'm sick of this game and this developer.
I'm sick of this game and this developer.
i think using NLT to compare to L&P is overkill, NLT delivers more than any other developer lol, these guys are update machines. But anyways...
- Sep 28, 2018
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I think one thing everyone can agree on is the game has way too many characters & routes. And I think a lot of people will agree that that is one of the reasons this update was mediocre.
The next Ellie event is Day 14 according to another poster, that is going to take a long time to say the least. 3 more updates to complete this day, and then 4 more to complete the next day and probably one or two more depending on which timeslot Ellie has in Day 14. We're looking at a year and a half between Ellie scenes, maybe more.
To continue my first point, the game has too many similar routes. There doesn't need to be different job routes. The nursing job, teacher job X2 and now maybe a soccer coach job? Why? The game has too many blackmail routes. The bullies at school and Aiden, probably others that I don't remember. Too many routes that people don't care about, the Logan+Ellie route for example. Probably the new Boss route from this update.
I understand that LP is trying to create a world, but it's being spread very thin and he keeps making it thinner by adding more people. Some devs work quick enough to be able to have a bunch of characters and routes, and it still be workable, but LP isn't one of them.
In addition to that, he wastes a lot of time with filler renders. I don't know how many are in this update, but the last one had almost 1000. You can easily make an entire day in 1000 renders.
The next Ellie event is Day 14 according to another poster, that is going to take a long time to say the least. 3 more updates to complete this day, and then 4 more to complete the next day and probably one or two more depending on which timeslot Ellie has in Day 14. We're looking at a year and a half between Ellie scenes, maybe more.
To continue my first point, the game has too many similar routes. There doesn't need to be different job routes. The nursing job, teacher job X2 and now maybe a soccer coach job? Why? The game has too many blackmail routes. The bullies at school and Aiden, probably others that I don't remember. Too many routes that people don't care about, the Logan+Ellie route for example. Probably the new Boss route from this update.
I understand that LP is trying to create a world, but it's being spread very thin and he keeps making it thinner by adding more people. Some devs work quick enough to be able to have a bunch of characters and routes, and it still be workable, but LP isn't one of them.
In addition to that, he wastes a lot of time with filler renders. I don't know how many are in this update, but the last one had almost 1000. You can easily make an entire day in 1000 renders.
First and prob. only post I'll ever make on this site but I'm so pissed off I couldn't not say something. This update showcases exactly why I no longer support any Dev on Patreon or anything of the sort... (imo) they are literally incentivized to be as lazy as humanly possible once they obtain x amount of supporters... feels like I waited months/half a year to watch this woman show some underwear in a jail (yea yea I know there was "more" then that in this update)... I really thought I would be seeing more, quality/substantial updates from all kinds of Devs during this pandemic considering most of us can't go anywhere but... it's pretty much been exactly the OPPOSITE (with the exception of NLT it seems).
If the game progess in this way for another 2 years the Dev will be under extreme pressure to animate a sex scene which will result in him rusing in the game and make the game look odd
Therefore any game should not have long teasing by now Sofia should atleast give a BJ to a guy but now if that happens it will look so odd like sofia showing her breasts to a random stranger looked odd
Therefore any game should not have long teasing by now Sofia should atleast give a BJ to a guy but now if that happens it will look so odd like sofia showing her breasts to a random stranger looked odd
- Dec 9, 2020
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After 3 years of development, this dev already doesn´t know how to estructure a visual story and makes twice more renders than needed to tell the story. So, he spends twice more time to make every update and delivers half of others devs. As simple as that. Read the first reviews of this game. That's what some people was pointing three years ago, and they were true.
Sad thing is, three years ago this game looked better than most of the games of this kind. Now, it just looks average.
Sad thing is, three years ago this game looked better than most of the games of this kind. Now, it just looks average.