VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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Bobber Tail

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There are several points in the Walk Through when it is very vague about major non-point events that actually affect very specific actions in the future.
 
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the "seller" doesn't want to give what customers want.
He creates a game he likes, he doesn't listen to his "sponsors"
Strange situation ... you pay someone for something that is not exactly what you require from the creator.
This game will eventually gain momentum or you will end up pulling people and the game will have the signature "[Abandoned]"
 
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P5ych0

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Code: 
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/script3.rpy", line 17660, in <module>
NameError: name 'day17_Sophia_showed_all_4_bikini_at_the_pool_fashion_show' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "script3.rpyc", line 17660, in script
  File "D:\renpy-7-sdk\renpy\ast.py", line 1832, in execute
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2039, in py_eval
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2032, in py_eval_bytecode
  File "game/script3.rpy", line 17660, in <module>
NameError: name 'day17_Sophia_showed_all_4_bikini_at_the_pool_fashion_show' is not defined

Android "PIE" API 28
SAMSUNG SM-J701F
Ren'Py 7.3.4.596.the66
A Wife And Mother 0.09
Mon Dec 30 09:03:13 2019
Im getting error
 
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Mimz said:
I know many do not understand how much work it is in making a game, just for some "few" scenes.
Those scenes got much work put into them when you pose the characters to the desired placement you want, and making them
look good when doing that pose, and to make them look interactive towards the other characters in that scene. Yes, there are pre-made poses. But often they even have to be adjusted to fit the character. It can take a long time just to get these things right.
Then you have dialogues. Try to make a scene with these things made well and see how long time it takes. (making a realistic conversation between 2-3 ppl.. when you at the same time need to shorten it down so there are not too many conversations that ppl end up losing interest) I promise you will get an "aha" experience. So I can really understand why it takes so long for a game with so many images for each update to get released. But I do agree, with this progress. No, not good.
This will take to many years to get an erotic scene with some naughty content that ppl are often after.
Ppl subscribe to get naughty stuff. If they want a tease and no action you can buy most games now' a day that is rated 16+ and see nudity and teasing scenes. But again, those games are all animated, so they will score higher on that part.
I'm not saying that I've made a great game myself, but I at least put in naughty stuff so ppl get what they are expected.
And please, not all are actually trying to milk ppl for money. I know several creators that do it because they love to make these kinda things, of course, they are happy when they get supported. (just like me.. because the computer I pay for monthly are not free)
Lust has made a really good game when it comes to the story part, the dialogues I read fully and are loving every second of it.
But I must admit things heat up to slow. If he only at least could put in more nudity at least, I think many here would be happier :)
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In theory what you explained is obviously correct. However, it's also a fact that the game would vastly improve by having a proper editor because this game has a lot of bloat content that is unnecessary. So the dev is basically a perfectionist and without anyone to stop him, what we get is a very large game with a very slow development time which is not a good combo. If the dev is directing the Lord of the Rings series, each book would be in 6 movies and each movie would be 5 hours long because the dev feels the need to capture every single miniscule detail.

This is what we got, multiple months of development time that only resulted in half of a game day content. I appreciate the intention of the dev to be detailed. But I think it's a really big mistake that doesn't actually benefit the game whatsoever.
 
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P5ych0

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Someome please provide bikini show save file i cant get it...
Or anyine please provide last save from 0.085
 
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DonkeyFace

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I think the developer, should understand that everyone is free to state their opinion. It his case, all these comments should be received as feedback of its clients. Some of them who have the financial ability are also supporting him on patreon.

So far, we have played 10 days (2 years, 2 months). If we do simple math, this game is going to be completed earliest by the end of 2024. That's 6 years.

Personally, I like the main structure and number of characters in the game. What I don't like is that, the creator has not been benefiting from any of these at all. There is no real action between any of the characters. I am not just talking about Sophie or Dylan or Sam. That's the reason why I started to think the developer is stalling to extend time until complation of the game.

May be, we should not have expected that much.

Best regards,
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Thanks for the reply,
I agree developers should consider constructive criticisms when they are valid, but without altering their overall vision. And let's be honest, there isn't much constructive conversations going on here. It's mostly just accusations of milking and calling L&P's patrons stupid. L&P set out to create something different with a pre-written story spanning 30 playable days. With meticulously posed and crafted scenes, based on the everyday life of a more conservative woman and her slow and more realistic decline into sexual depravity.

I find it to be a refreshing departure from the typical instant gratification porn games that permeate this forum. Now, do I wish that most games progressed this slowly? Absolutely not. Now that would be painful. But I do need character development, build up, and context for sexual scenes, in order for it to be exciting. Because without those things, CG sex scenes do absolutely nothing for me. There are other female protagonist games that I found enjoyable for a little while, such as "Lily Of The Valley" and "Anna: Exciting Affection" but those games seem like they are just written as they go, and those ladies have already nearly fucked the entire towns in which they reside, and so the sex scenes are no longer exciting for me. What L&P has managed to do, is keep many if not most people, at the very least interested and intrigued with his game. I wouldn't call that milking, I would call it building up to a climax.

Having said all of that, I do have concerns. Such as, the potential for developer burnout during such a long project, and the long intervals in between updates for a game this size. But, now as his goals are being attained, hopefully he will keep to his promises and be able to work on this full time, as well as hire some help. Someone to do coding and translation, as well as an animator would be a great start.

I do realize that this game's slow progression isn't for everyone, and in it's current state makes the anticipation a painful wait. But I do think that most players, in hindsight will find the future sex scenes very gratifying with all of the build up that has occurred.

And best regards to you as well.
 
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