Captain Bipto

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It's kinda the definition of a visual novel. Think Choose Your Adventure books that were popular in the 80's.
oh man, 1st you guys say its soft core porn, proved that wrong, proved it has a heavy base in incest. And, if you think a choose your own adventure book is a novel, I don't think you're old enough to be on this forum
 

Alley_Cat

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oh man, 1st you guys say its soft core porn, proved that wrong, proved it has a heavy base in incest. And, if you think a choose your own adventure book is a novel, I don't think you're old enough to be on this forum
I believe you're the only one recently calling it a porn game, soft-core, hard-core or otherwise. So in terms of proving things, all you managed to do is to prove it's not something no-one else is claiming it to be.

This is L&P's own description from Patreon "I’m trying to fuse art and eroticism, combined with a slowly developing story full of lust and passion, to create an aesthetic, realistic adult game", which is why some of us refer to it as an erotic novel, as opposed to the porn game others think it is.

And as for incest, how can this be considered an incest game when the sex scenes are with the husband? That during the Ellie/Julia scene, Jules gets further than Ellie precisely because they're not related? And that the other major character on the straight route is Sam, also not related to Sophia, yet the second highest male in the favourite character poll? Yes the game will have incest, but it also has non-incest content too.
 

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oh man, 1st you guys say its soft core porn, proved that wrong, proved it has a heavy base in incest. And, if you think a choose your own adventure book is a novel, I don't think you're old enough to be on this forum
This is the first I have interjected into this argument. Secondly, I was reading Choose Your Adventures 30 years ago.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Don't shit on Choose Your Own Adventure books. I read Moby Dick for the first time a few years ago and it was, without question, the worst novel I've ever read. I would happily read a Choose Your Own Adventure story before ever reading a single page of Moby Dick ever again.
 
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Captain Bipto

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I believe you're the only one recently calling it a porn game, soft-core, hard-core or otherwise. So in terms of proving things, all you managed to do is to prove it's not something no-one else is claiming it to be.

This is L&P's own description from Patreon "I’m trying to fuse art and eroticism, combined with a slowly developing story full of lust and passion, to create an aesthetic, realistic adult game", which is why some of us refer to it as an erotic novel, as opposed to the porn game others think it is.

And as for incest, how can this be considered an incest game when the sex scenes are with the husband? That during the Ellie/Julia scene, Jules gets further than Ellie precisely because they're not related? And that the other major character on the straight route is Sam, also not related to Sophia, yet the second highest male in the favourite character poll? Yes the game will have incest, but it also has non-incest content too.
what do you think erotic means? its soft porn.

How can this not be considered an incest game? did see the pictures i posted, making out with her daughter in the shower, showing off her body so her son can jerk off to her. I don't think you're paying attention to the game or the thread, you're just butting into it without catching up on it. because if u were paying attention you would have seen why I showed this is a hard core story(it shows penetration)... erotic(soft core porn does not). and why i showed the proof of wanton incest in the story. and, if lust and passion's patreon actually said he's slowly developing the story, that's just proof he's gonna milk the hell out of his patreons and never give them what he's already started to show. If it was just erotic, he would have just alluded to it, without showing any penetration, without showing any genitals, without showing the mother standing still in the dressing room, as wack off material for her son to jerk off to. This is not an 'erotic' game, its an incest porn game and the creator is, by his own words, gonna drag out the good shit, to keep his patreons on a rope and milk money out of them.
 
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Captain Bipto

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And the update he finally commits and shows her in a hard core scene with her son or daughter, all you EROTIC NOVEL readers can go find something else to read
 

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And the update he finally commits and shows her in a hard core scene with her son or daughter, all you EROTIC NOVEL readers can go find something else to read
Yet, we won't do that, because we're all equal here & only follow instructions when we want to. If you want to call it porn now or hard core someday so what? I sense that you have some bee in your bonnet about the nomenclature but I can't understand why this is so relatable to any "milking," that may, or may not, be taking place. Call it what you like. Have you sampled much porn? If you had you might think again, but no matter. I will continue to consider this a visual novel with elements of porn, while you can carry on with the hard core. It doesn't matter what we call it as far as the speed of updates is concerned.
 

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
ScriptError: could not find label 'day18_Back_home_kitchen'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "script4.rpyc", line 3182, in script
File "C:\Users\Wolf\Documents\GAMES\ADULT\A wife and mother\AWAM-0.100-pc\1 GAME FOLDER\renpy\ast.py", line 1697, in execute
rv = renpy.game.script.lookup(target)
File "C:\Users\Wolf\Documents\GAMES\ADULT\A wife and mother\AWAM-0.100-pc\1 GAME FOLDER\renpy\script.py", line 898, in lookup
raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'day18_Back_home_kitchen'.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.100 0.100
Fri Dec 11 13:33:14 2020
does anyone know how to get past this?
 

Kz87

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Is L&P planning to upgrade his PC? According to DPC new video cards significantly increase the rendering times.
 

Talcum Powder

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L&P said "So, after the next playable day I will let me build a system with 4 RTX 3090 and 1080p will render even much faster than currently the 720p."
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-100-lust-passion.5944/post-4312357
If true that's minimum $5000, closer to $6000, in GPU so fair play to L&P. I worry that time savings from rendering will be consumed by one or more of,
  1. Doing more and more test renders at high (or even full) resolution
  2. Doing more and more renders for each scene
  3. Re-rendering older scenes rather than waiting until the rest of the game is completed
  4. While revisiting the older scenes deciding that the poses could be improved, the subtleties of facial expressions could be improved, changing outfits and working out all the fitting issues
  5. Having done test renders for #4, decides camera angles could be better
  6. Having done test renders for #5, decides the lighting needs re-doing
could go on an on.

I really love the characters and the scenes and have no issues with the story progression.
(except the BS spying in the shower, still think it was an amateurish and immature decision that provided no character development or insight and was an (almost) unforgivable breach of the Sophia point of view)
 
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