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At the minimum hmmm... Maybe but, I would think there needs too be more to be continuing the forward momentum of the game not just Sam. I always come back to 'she likes Sam' and has even intimated that there could have be more if the world were different. So a kiss or a touch seems stagnant in my mind. Maybe just me.
If Liam doesn't screw up the shit, moving out of the house should be a pretty sad event for Sophia. I mean Sophia can't be so arrogant, hurtful and such a bitch without empathy that something happens to the movers on this day, at this event. It is possible that Sophia feels liberated, but in order to be horny at this moment, a complete change of character of this virtual person would be necessary. Ok, this is a porn game, you can expect something like that, but it's also a told story with a sometimes understandable emotional logic that shouldn't allow something like that.About the movers.
We know that they only come back at the end as per L&P post.
As KillJoys said multiple times this could be the (bad) end of the FW route, with the marriage falling apart etc etc.
It's strange, though, that the same truck is in the teaser, it's difficult to think of an oversight considering how he cares about the details. If it is so, or just a coincidence (e.g. an enterprise with multiple similar trucks), ok false alarm.
Now, let's consider the alternative (just for the fun of speculation).
They will come back at end, likely to move out the family. Will there be more that just moving furnitures? Will they be another if not the final piece of the FW route, with Sophia at that point of the game completely corrupted?
***If this is the scenario***, for how the game is intended so far, I still find difficult to think that something happen in a snap of a finger the day of the move, no matter how Sophia is corrupted. Yes, there was an interaction at the very beginning, but it was still in the realm of "flirting".
So, ***under these premises***, what if the movers, but let's say just Ivan to make it simple, would make the sporadic appearance throughout the FW route, without playing any major role of course, but just to make him/them witnessing Sophia's corruption, with Sophia obviously aware of their presence during her actions and, maybe, progressively enjoying the little "game" (cf the art class)? Or even with a minimum of interaction but without them being the main part of the event.
For example, let's say at some point one of the tasks is going to happen in public (e.g. another bar or similar) and again one or all of them are there to see (and being seen by Sophia). Again nothing happen with them, but it will build up the erotic tension that could be then triggered at the end during the moving.
I don't know if you were thinking something like that.
To me it would make sense having something like that, again, under the hypothesis that they won't be just moving furnitures at the end. It's just that I hope that, even when we will be well down the road of the corruption, the events will still have some reasonable build up and it won't just collapse in a dull fuckfest like other games.
And I know that in part it contradicts what L&P said, but he may not have told the "whole truth" to avoid spoiling too much
- Jan 30, 2021
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It all depends on the path L&P takes her. Maybe she discovers Liam cheating and had continued gambling and blown more $$$. Maybe she has been pushed to a level of corruption she sees every relationship in only the basest form. The periodic throwing of Ivan in the background, she sees but does not interact, keeps reminding her of that first day and his interest, seeing her lingerie, whatever. At the end, as she is leaving Liam, she sees some revenge or just another man to torture for eternity with a one time liaison. That will be in about 18 years so..... .
There are many ways it can be spun even to the point of them just being the movers again.
I don't see that with Liam as the big villain on whom Sophia wants to take revenge. In this regard, I think L&P will make it difficult for us to pinpoint the culprit in Liam for the failure of the marriage. At best, we will get a few small incidents that explain Sophia's decisions, but by no means the big bang. At the end of the game, Sophia or the player will be mainly responsible for the end of the marriage.
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How many sex scenes are in the game so far? Id like to know before spending more time on the game lol
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If Sophia is actively committing incest with her son by the end of the game, then the wheels have come off of her life and all bets are off. We all seem to forget that AWAM is setting incest up as a really big point of no return. Maybe Sophia can recover if it's just Ellie, but if it's with Dylan as well then this is a woman who has abandoned any decency. In that context, sleeping with movers is "believable" because she's lost any moral compass.
I still believe that this game is likely to have very dark/sad endings on the Filthy route.
- Aug 23, 2020
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If you're only looking for sex scenes go play any other game here. This isn't for you.
I think you both have valid points.
What I speculated before was under the hypothesis that there will be some action with the mover(s) in the end. I haven't considered the "why" at all. And that is obviously very important because it can't be Sophia seeing the movers and e.g. offering a gang bang just because she has already teased them enough. Honestly I have no idea what could lead to some action with the movers, whether revenge, lust or whatever. I think we are too far from that and we know so little about what's to come that there are infinite possibilities.
The point that I was trying to make using that possible event as an example is more about how I hope that the progression down the corruption path won't degrade too much what, overall, it has been the strength of this VN, the ability to tell the story with a build-up and with a certain depth in the character development and in the narration. The movers being part or witness of the progression down the corruption path would be a good way (IMO) to get to that last event with already an arc of a story and some erotic tension already built.
Then obviously how and why it will play out will depend on the events and the context that lead to the disruption of the family etc etc and need to be coherent with the rest of the story. I, too, would find odd that in a sad or dark situation where Sophia lost everything she has those thoughts about the movers.
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RE: Movers: L&P doesn’t do random and doesn’t pick assets based on availability. The moving truck is not an accident and not an oversight. That doesn’t mean Ivan and the movers will have any specific role in the evening’s events but one or more of them will almost certainly make an appearance.
RE: Band Members: it’s been pointed out (apologies, forget who) that one of the band members looks a lot like one of the boys from the art studio. Ditto the above, but very likely to influence dialogue (if not actions) if you’re doing Aiden tasks.
RE: Andy/Cathy: As I said a few weeks back and xxxorro pointed out above, there is a distinct possibility that Sophia doesn’t know about the Andy/Cathy event if you’re doing the Aiden tasks. IMHO Liam isn’t a bad guy but he is an insensitive boob who could very likely inform Sophia at the last minute, maybe even while she’s at the concert. If this is true then I hope it leads to an opportunity to opt out of the Andy/Cathy event altogether and continue the evening with Sam, Patricia and the rest.
RE: Band Members: it’s been pointed out (apologies, forget who) that one of the band members looks a lot like one of the boys from the art studio. Ditto the above, but very likely to influence dialogue (if not actions) if you’re doing Aiden tasks.
RE: Andy/Cathy: As I said a few weeks back and xxxorro pointed out above, there is a distinct possibility that Sophia doesn’t know about the Andy/Cathy event if you’re doing the Aiden tasks. IMHO Liam isn’t a bad guy but he is an insensitive boob who could very likely inform Sophia at the last minute, maybe even while she’s at the concert. If this is true then I hope it leads to an opportunity to opt out of the Andy/Cathy event altogether and continue the evening with Sam, Patricia and the rest.
OMG, it's worse than I thought Sam lied badly to Sophia
Inside
https://f95zone.to/threads/king-wash-laundromat.56190/
Sam lied badly to Sophia 
Inside
https://f95zone.to/threads/king-wash-laundromat.56190/
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so far the only one with a small tool is LiamReally
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I still think L&P went a bit overboard with the length though, it's not erect and it's already half meter
About Sam, his father is quite well equipped, so we can't rule out that possibility.
.even the Shota boys got bigger pennis!!!You are right, it is a low point according to valid moral standards. But the low point has actually already been reached. Through the obviously incestuous actions Sophia with her sister Patricia and even worse with her own daughter Elli. Again and again I cannot understand that a difference is made. The damage is not caused by the physical actions but by the emotional and spiritual injuries. Sophia, no, actually we players who make the decisions no longer have a moral compass. To attach that only to the actions with Dylan is unbelievable and actually even pissed off against those who play this route.
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let's buy a wheel and tap our forehead it's just a game ladies and gentlemen, there's no need to tense up whether it's incest, whether Sopfia is going to fuck with Dylan's husband, sister, grandfather, grandmother or neighbor, it's just a game that is supposed to make our time on the laptop more enjoyable dac rest from the hustle and bustle of everyday life
What about Patricia? She is the predator. No one has valid moral standards.
I dont the mover being present at the bar requires them to be actively interacting with Sofia. They might just be having an after work drink in the background.About the movers.
We know that they only come back at the end as per L&P post.
As KillJoys said multiple times this could be the (bad) end of the FW route, with the marriage falling apart etc etc.
It's strange, though, that the same truck is in the teaser, it's difficult to think of an oversight considering how he cares about the details. If it is so, or just a coincidence (e.g. an enterprise with multiple similar trucks), ok false alarm.
Now, let's consider the alternative (just for the fun of speculation).
They will come back at end, likely to move out the family. Will there be more that just moving furnitures? Will they be another if not the final piece of the FW route, with Sophia at that point of the game completely corrupted?
***If this is the scenario***, for how the game is intended so far, I still find difficult to think that something happen in a snap of a finger the day of the move, no matter how Sophia is corrupted. Yes, there was an interaction at the very beginning, but it was still in the realm of "flirting".
So, ***under these premises***, what if the movers, but let's say just Ivan to make it simple, would make the sporadic appearance throughout the FW route, without playing any major role of course, but just to make him/them witnessing Sophia's corruption, with Sophia obviously aware of their presence during her actions and, maybe, progressively enjoying the little "game" (cf the art class)? Or even with a minimum of interaction but without them being the main part of the event.
For example, let's say at some point one of the tasks is going to happen in public (e.g. another bar or similar) and again one or all of them are there to see (and being seen by Sophia). Again nothing happen with them, but it will build up the erotic tension that could be then triggered at the end during the moving.
I don't know if you were thinking something like that.
To me it would make sense having something like that, again, under the hypothesis that they won't be just moving furnitures at the end. It's just that I hope that, even when we will be well down the road of the corruption, the events will still have some reasonable build up and it won't just collapse in a dull fuckfest like other games.
And I know that in part it contradicts what L&P said, but he may not have told the "whole truth" to avoid spoiling too much
- Feb 14, 2018
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Marginally off topic, but:
It never ceases to amaze me how often we have an engaging discussion or two going on, like which asset was used for the bar, or who will be there and what does that portend for the events that unfold, and then we get a random post telling everyone not to worry or tense up about anything, in essence questioning why anyone would form an opinion about any of this at all, let alone express that opinion.
That's kind of like telling a hobbyist they shouldn't talk with other hobbyists about their hobby. It's like someone who isn't particularly interested in WWII trivia going to a WWII trivia convention, butting into a conversation just to say they aren't interested in WWII trivia so no one else should talk about WWII trivia.
Seriously, WTF is going through people's minds when they post like that...
Marginally on-topic: It's supposedly early evening when Patricia picks up Sophia (teaser 1) but the sky is dark and all the lights in the parking lot are on (teaser 2) - continuity issue?
It never ceases to amaze me how often we have an engaging discussion or two going on, like which asset was used for the bar, or who will be there and what does that portend for the events that unfold, and then we get a random post telling everyone not to worry or tense up about anything, in essence questioning why anyone would form an opinion about any of this at all, let alone express that opinion.
That's kind of like telling a hobbyist they shouldn't talk with other hobbyists about their hobby. It's like someone who isn't particularly interested in WWII trivia going to a WWII trivia convention, butting into a conversation just to say they aren't interested in WWII trivia so no one else should talk about WWII trivia.
Seriously, WTF is going through people's minds when they post like that...
Marginally on-topic: It's supposedly early evening when Patricia picks up Sophia (teaser 1) but the sky is dark and all the lights in the parking lot are on (teaser 2) - continuity issue?