VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Bishop Robert]

I have a question. based on this document:
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2019/04/294575_Character_Directory.pdf
Which male hero is the most attractive? (from your point of view).
thanks.

Mailman.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Your dissapointment is understandable, but it is simply not a game like that.

It is not dating sim game, with a goal of building a happy fullfilling relationship, but a corruption game, where you see a woman in simingly fullfilling relationship and life status, go wild, have that life changed compleatly, and stumble into more and more debauchery.
It is a lot nicer, more realistic and tactfull that some other havy handed games of this genre, where the Main Heroine ends up fucking everyone and their dogs few seconds after meeting them, but it is in the same genre.

Anyway - the goal of the game isn't to choose a new - better path of life for Sophia, but to see her succumb to all sort of new pleasures, to make bad and immoral things, and enjoy it.
As is the player ;-)

I guess it will be up to you - the player - how you handle her moral descend, and if you will keep her sins in moderate range or not ;-) (I'd say she allready is a criminal ofender, didling her own daughter and underage boys and girls ;p )

And a well written, attractive, male character would hurt this? A woman succumbing to corruption (in part) because of a well written male character that she could (mistakenly) see a future with wouldn't work?

 

[I_Love_Moms]

Idk why, but I find Alyssa a bit too hot to handle

 

[t3alqdansam]

It's been two or three weeks. Much has been made about Liam blowing off the kids but we've seen their relationship over the course of two or three weeks. We don't have any information on what he was like before the move, but I'm not comfortable condemning a man as a "bad father" because for the last three weeks he's been focused on his new job. Millions of good people every year take new jobs, and for a short time afterwards they need to focus on it until they get their feet under them. Liam and family just moved across the country for this job, I'll cut him some slack.

It all goes back to the narrow time window we have to work with. Thirty playable days is simply not enough time to really develop these characters and their relationships without using time jumps. If we had seen Liam ignore/neglect his kids for months over 12 playable days, I'd be more critical of him. But the guy is under the gun at his new job and has had only like 10 days in the office so far- so yeah, his attention is going to be split right now.

Absolutely true. The small window. That is all I base my view on. I got no background other than what Mr Lucas, I mean L&P presents to us. Maybe he does have Daddy issues also? Noooooo!

 

[utkarsh123he]

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[hzjujk]

We will have to probably wait 1-2 game days to find out about Morello but personally I don't see what else Morello can do for Sophia but as usual L&P is very tight lipped.

I cannot imagine Morello as a possible partner of Sophia in the story within the short time window of 30 days. Apart from the fact that Morello said he was married (which doesn't matter at all in a porn story), he has just introduced Sophia to his brother. Fairness among brothers, not to take away your (fantasy) wife would certainly be a reason. Another would be loyalty among mafia members. Morello would be well advised not to upset his brother in prison. Because Morello himself has emphasized that his brother was offered a deal by the prosecutor to shorten his sentence and Larry refused.
But these are just reasons in the real world not in an erotic fantasy world, so their weight is lighter than air.

 

[Krull]

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is it upscaled ??

That's the resolution of the images found inside the game.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

As a non-English speaking person, I have long said that L&P's writing is actually his weakness. He has a good story, but his story telling is weak because he's not working in his native language. A true proofreader would not only help him with grammar and syntax corrections, but would provide support for story structure so that everything flows best.

he should just release the game in his native language, and then let the fans do the translations. this thing happens for summertime saga, it is translated into many languages as they are made by the fans who help

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

he earns 14k per month for delivering 2 updates per year? and people keep giving him more money? wow im sure glad i went to college to earn a degree instead of sitting behind a computer in a basement making porn games

with what he earns I imagine that you work on the beach on the deckchair with a pentium3 laptop (here is discovered why it is slow)

 

[Sabertooth__]

Since you mention that you felt inconsistencies, what example in the story or storyline did you feel was unconvincing? I'm just curious about your thoughts.

I haven't seen the dialogues since I last played the update when it was released. I only remember the thoughts that I had while playing the scenes.

The problems I had were from all the 4 main scenes.

1st Job - the initial dialogue with old men. The language used by them was pretty bold and kinda abrasive to me. But only lasted for a little while they were in the room, the second half with bathing was fine

2nd Job - the whole scene was not written well. I have no problem with the content but It wasn't the least bit convincing in comparison to the rest of the game, went a little too far too quickly and thrived only on porn logic. He should've taken his time with it but for some reason he was in a total rush.

3. Aiden event - The part involving convincing Sophia to be the art class model felt not very convincing. I mean if I could assign numbers, I would say I was convinced around 60 on a scale of 100. The scene after that moves towards it peak but then again towards the last 40-50 renders it felt like the scene was losing momentum and was gradually falling. It just kinda fell flat in the last part.
If I use a graph to describe how I felt the was I would use a Positively Skewed graph. For those who might not know what it is




Dylan Event - Hated how direct Dylan was right off the bat. Throughout the initial part of the scene Dylan's words were way too abrasive to me. Also how he was gawking at Sophia's body throughout that part. And the worst of it all was how Sophia was acting towards it, almost like she doesn't realise the language Dylan is using for her. To me it felt like L&P completely forgot that he is writing a mother and son and not a gf and bf. Later on the scene gets better and feels fine primarily because now the scene had developed to the point where it felt fine. But Dylan using such language right from the beginning was not good.
Many felt the 2nd job uncomfortable, to me this little part of the conversation between Dylan and Sophia was actually quite unsettling, I felt really awkward.
Never in any of his scenes before with his important characters has he been so direct in the approach

 

[Sabertooth__]

It's been two or three weeks. Much has been made about Liam blowing off the kids but we've seen their relationship over the course of two or three weeks. We don't have any information on what he was like before the move, but I'm not comfortable condemning a man as a "bad father" because for the last three weeks he's been focused on his new job. Millions of good people every year take new jobs, and for a short time afterwards they need to focus on it until they get their feet under them. Liam and family just moved across the country for this job, I'll cut him some slack.

It all goes back to the narrow time window we have to work with. Thirty playable days is simply not enough time to really develop these characters and their relationships without using time jumps. If we had seen Liam ignore/neglect his kids for months over 12 playable days, I'd be more critical of him. But the guy is under the gun at his new job and has had only like 10 days in the office so far- so yeah, his attention is going to be split right now.

I am so happy someone here actually agrees with me on Liam not being a douche. He is flawed but not a bad person. Also it is not like he is the only one flawed. Dylan, Ellie, Sophia all have flaws. Unless they are potrayed as God it is normal all of them have flaws.

Also people just ignore the scenes where Liam is being nice to his family. He did spend time playing basketball with Dylan, brought Sophia flowers, accompanied the family to the beach, he was concerned about Dylan there as well but Sophia said she can handle it. All this Hardwork he does helps his family live the lifestyle they do. And as you mentioned it is a new job in a new city. It takes time to adjust to things. With his promotion due in 2-3 months he has to keep at his best.

People mostly just want Sophia to fuck others and see Liam as the biggest obstacle and as a result hate him. Alot of the theories of Sophia cheating are basically on the foundation that Liam cheats on Sophia first and so she thinks she should do the same. Basically antagonizing Liam to justify Sophia's cheating and hence I absolutely hate this idea.

 

[Hlextor]

, to me this little part of the conversation between Dylan and Sophia was actually quite unsettling, I felt really awkward.
Never in any of his scenes before with his important characters has he been so direct in the approach

What do you mean by that exactly? Why awkward?

 

[VanDarkBalls]

I don't know how better to describe it. It kinda creeped me out. Like Dylan's behaviour towards his mother in the initial part accompanied by Sophia's absolutely naive behaviour. The looks from Dylan and the environment created with dialogues it felt more disgusting for a moment than the hobos.

The problem is that he himself is the culprit of such a paradigm, because of the speed of updating and the amount of content in the update, he can no longer smoothly develop the storyline of each character, he has to accelerate, otherwise it will be even worse, yes realism went fuck it, but again it didn't get worse for me, he just needs balance and assistants, I think reducing the game is the stupidest decision at the moment, it should have been done initially when a lot of effort and time was not spent yet, otherwise it's a waste of time at all.
And in fact, there was never any realism in the routes, except for a good wife, in any case it was a porn game in the first place, just with a normal plot, normal characters.
And I am not a native speaker, I can understand why they are so-so written, if I am not a native speaker, I can easily read and translate them, good literature cannot be translated without a very good knowledge of English

 

[VanDarkBalls]

I don't know how better to describe it. It kinda creeped me out. Like Dylan's behaviour towards his mother in the initial part accompanied by Sophia's absolutely naive behaviour. The looks from Dylan and the environment created with dialogues it felt more disgusting for a moment than the hobos.

the moment with the fighting game is just terribly ridiculous and funny, here I completely agree, a very stupid scene, fortunately there is a choice.

 

[Hlextor]

I don't know how better to describe it. It kinda creeped me out. Like Dylan's behaviour towards his mother in the initial part accompanied by Sophia's absolutely naive behaviour. The looks from Dylan and the environment created with dialogues it felt more disgusting for a moment than the hobos.

You're talking about the jogging event? That was by far better than the previous events with Dylan and Sophia? I mean, his behavior towards Sophia was, in my opinion, relaxed towards his mother. Starting with the scene where Sophia asks him to join her for a jog. One PD earlier, we wouldn't have had a choice whether he went jogging with her or preferred to lie lazily on the sofa. I think he would not have left this chance to go jogging with her. And also the conversation itself was - as far as I can remember - very adult and not the usual needy behavior of Dylan.

 

[Scarlet56]

new update ????????????????????????????????????

Make an effort, go back a few pages and you can already get a rough idea of the next update.
Otherwise look at the OP you will know immediately if there is a new version.
It's sad that you are still asking this question.

 

[ddf]

Does the DEV check this channel or have a discord to receive bug reports?
I've found some type and wanted to report it:

 

[palmtrees89]

Does the DEV check this channel or have a discord to receive bug reports?
I've found some type and wanted to report it:
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L&P does visit this forum once or twice a year, but only to start some drama, insulting people etc. He doesn't usually respond to questions or support on here, but to people criticizing his work. So, your best bet would be to insult him while adding that picture at the end of your post in 6 months or so.

There's an e-mail address on his Patreon page you could try to contact, but I wouldn't get my hopes up that stuff like this is getting fixed. Atleast not anytime soon. I'd be surprised if the major bug with Dylan's relationship points in the current version of the game is getting a fix, to be honest. But we'll see in approximately 4 weeks from now.

 

[ddf]

L&P does visit this forum once or twice a year, but only to start some drama, insulting people etc. He doesn't usually respond to questions or support on here, but to people criticizing his work. So, your best bet would be to insult him while adding that picture at the end of your post in 6 months or so.

There's an e-mail address on his Patreon page you could try to contact, but I wouldn't get my hopes up that stuff like this is getting fixed. Atleast not anytime soon. I'd be surprised if the major bug with Dylan's relationship points in the current version of the game is getting a fix, to be honest. But we'll see in approximately 4 weeks from now.

Thank you for the answer.
What is about that major bug?

 

[Old Dog]

I cannot imagine Morello as a possible partner of Sophia in the story within the short time window of 30 days. Apart from the fact that Morello said he was married (which doesn't matter at all in a porn story), he has just introduced Sophia to his brother. Fairness among brothers, not to take away your (fantasy) wife would certainly be a reason. Another would be loyalty among mafia members. Morello would be well advised not to upset his brother in prison. Because Morello himself has emphasized that his brother was offered a deal by the prosecutor to shorten his sentence and Larry refused.
But these are just reasons in the real world not in an erotic fantasy world, so their weight is lighter than air.

I agree with you as I don't see Morello/Larry being in the game for much longer,my opinion,and I also don't see Sophia visiting Larry again in prison.
I think that this event had 3 goals
Corrupt Sophia some more
To clear the debt
A solution for either Aiden/Bennett.