Akamari

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And please do not continue this conversation because i have take the time to check your other post and you are obviously biased..Have fun with the game..
I'm not biased, I have criticized this game in the past as well for not having spicy enough updates but that is not the point.

I'm saying that doing the first explicit nude scenes in the form of showers, changing clothes, sleeping, dreams, imagination and whatever other boring activities the girls might be doing is not a good way to reward the player in exciting fashion. It's just a lazy way to give the patrons their monthly lewd quota without making any effort as a writer or artist. For me the quality developer knows how to use covered nudity or not clear angles of view to do a proper buildup.
 
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So, for anyone that would like a quick summary, the dev doesn't think the game is worth playing until it's about 0.10. And since it comes out every .05, we have: 0.75, .080, 0.85, 0.90, 0.95, 0.10.

That's six releases to get to a good stage. If we say that each release takes two months, we have 6 x 2 = 12.

So, maybe we all come back this time next year and see how things are? What think?
 

atlas114

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this thread doesn't disappoint to deliver on the lols.

@Philly_Games great response bro. i'd like to add that even the great Dr. Pinkcake (Acting Lessons which is now COMPLETED and is developing his next game BADIK) also produced updates/renders at a dizzying pace, consistently overdelivering and releasing updates early (despite having a full time job). This could be said for the same as Belle of Long Live The Princess who also has a full time job and releases that game on a monthly basis.

or guys like Luxee who charge only per update. I hate that Parental Love gets updated so sparsely but he gets a pass due to the charge patreons only when I got something for them thing going.
 

Akamari

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So, for anyone that would like a quick summary, the dev doesn't think the game is worth playing until it's about 0.10. And since it comes out every .05, we have: 0.75, .080, 0.85, 0.90, 0.95, 0.10.

That's six releases to get to a good stage. If we say that each release takes two months, we have 6 x 2 = 12.

So, maybe we all come back this time next year and see how things are? What think?
The best way is to come in four years. Every game is better played finished.
 

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Yep. It is your and only your problem. No need to shout about it. No one cares.
Wrong! Its is all forum problem and the Administrators and Moderators care about it. Because racism is internacional crime, buddy!
 

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Seriously reading the Developers post i couldn't get this image out of my head

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This is how i imagine the person writing that post looks like.

Putting down people who come here to enjoy "low brow porn games", while imagining yourself as some kind of artist lol. I just cant get over how funny that is, like dude get off your high horse you are not special for avoiding porn in your game, the story and the characters are like a 3rd rate Spanish soap opera. If game of thrones can pull of orgies every other episode while having one of the best and most compelling stories of modern television, i think putting in actual sex scenes wouldn't hurt your Desperate housewives vol.2 game. In fact it would be an improvement, trust me mister starved artist sir.
 
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Seriously reading the Developers post i couldn't get this image out of my head

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This is how i imagine the person writing that post looks like.

Putting down people who come here to enjoy "low brow porn games", while imagining yourself as some kind of artist lol. I just cant get over how funny that is, like dude get off your high horse you are not special for avoiding porn in your game, the story and the characters are like a 3rd rate Spanish soap opera. If game of thrones can pull of orgies every other episode while having one of the best and most compelling stories of modern television, i think putting in actual sex scenes wouldn't hurt your Desperate housewives vol.2 game. In fact it would be an improvement, trust me mister starved artist sir.
Please do not compare this game to the best tv show around.
 

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I've supported this developer from day one (not financially, of course) - defended him from many attacks, and tried to frame my own criticisms in a constructive and helpful manner. Whenever I participate in this thread, I try to be as clear and concise as I can, in hopes that it would help reduce the negativity and toxicity that this oftentimes game receives. After carefully reading the shit-storm of comments that ensued, all I can say is: fuck @Lust&Passion three ways to Sunday, and then some.
Not only did he come off as an arrogant prick, but he actively sabotaged his chances of getting more Patreons by needlessly antagonizing the core audience of F95 members, and revealing himself to be beyond reproach (without even any hint of self-awareness). Worse yet, he insulted and belittled other developers and artists out there, who are simply happy to be part of the community. As @Philly_Games said, it's one of the lowest things any game developer has done on this site.
It's clear that something's wrong with him - maybe he's a harsh perfectionist who pushes everyone away, maybe he's on the spectrum and doesn't realize how others see him, or maybe a lack of love in his life has pushed him over the edge, but his posts were clear examples of narcissism and entitlement. And when he did "address" some of the concerns raised, all he could muster up was more excuses or by again moving the goal post (I promise the next few days are important, te-hee).
I personally don't mind the slow corruption, or how frustratingly prudish Sophia is - the problem is the lack of content and the outrageously long time between updates. A month and a half for only half a day of game play doesn't seem reasonable. Besides, who's to say that it won't turn to 2 months for half a day in the near future, with all the delays he always seems to run into? People are free to continue supporting him if they want, but it just doesn't seem like a good deal at all.
Also, what's the point of having a scene with Ellie and Patricia if it doesn't move things forward with them (in terms of relationship points)? Yeah, I know, Ellie is asking whether her mom is sexually satisfied, but we'll have to wait a couple of years to see those story lines even begin to pay off. And what's the point of Logan, completely undoing Ellie's character development from the previous update? I get that she's bi, but she didn't even hesitate before thinking of jumping onto that dick.
It took me this long to realize that this game is nothing but an exceedingly long introduction to events that may or may never take place. If you read the developer's comments very carefully, you'll notice that he's got "some issues to figure out in the next couple of months". That sounds like code for "I don't know if this is worth my time yet, so I might abandon the game instead of putting up with all you people". And even if he doesn't abandon it, his rotten attitude has soured the story for me.
So again, fuck him. If you want to keep supporting him, that's fine, but don't pretend that he's a reasonable or even reliable developer. And know that there are a bunch of other devs out there who are more deserving of financial support (PhillyGames, LewdLab, Pinkcake, Mr Dots, ICSTOR, DeepSleep, etc). Will L&P go down the same path Gumdrop and P&P followed? Only time will tell, but if he does, you can bet he'll beat them both at their own game. After all, his narcissism knows no bounds.
Unfortunately, like Gumdrops and P&P, there will always be loyalists who sink with him.
 

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I don't like to damage peoples income, even if i think they are pricks. And i certainly don't want to tell people what they want to do with their time and money. With that said i would suggest people give new developers and games a chance over some others that are making a ton of money with nothing much to show for it.

One of the things i decided to do is try to promote and rotate games in my signature that are new and as a result underrated. The two games in my signature are still fairly new with only a fraction of patreon money that this game has, yet are heaps and bounds better in every way. In my humble personal opinion.

So i would suggest people at least check them out and if they enjoy give their support to the developers in any way they can. There are some new games and developers out there just starving for your attention and are very thankful for the support they get which they show with frequent and quality updates.
 

dirtyrat

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I don't like to damage peoples income, even if i think they are pricks. And i certainly don't want to tell people what they want to do with their time and money. With that said i would suggest people give new developers and games a chance over some others that are making a ton of money with nothing much to show for it.

One of the things i decided to do is try to promote and rotate games in my signature that are new and as a result underrated. The two games in my signature are still fairly new with only a fraction of patreon money that this game has, yet are heaps and bounds better in every way. In my humble personal opinion.

So i would suggest people at least check them out and if they enjoy give their support to the developers in any way they can. There are some new games and developers out there just starving for your attention and are very thankful for the support they get which they show with frequent and quality updates.
I agree. Become a Rock Star is a great game. I'd also suggest The Inn, Jessica O'Neil Hard News and Alison Fall of the Apple.
 

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OK, then give me an example how else she should behave in certain scenes!...more words
As "prudish" or even frigid as Sophia is about sex, I'm surprised her husband didn't have to beg her for a blowjob. Especially since thats a naughty thing to do, even for marriage in some cultures still.
 
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