XaGnard

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So he split days for release faster updates and cycle passed from 4-5 months for 1 full day to 3/4 months for 1/4 of the day. Wow great work as always milker
Currently it looks more as if 1/10 game day takes about 3 months to finish. That would be 2.5 years per game day or about 40 more years for the game to be finished, if someone really believes that L&P won't just give up on this game at some point.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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so thanks to those that replied, I was curious because it is not easy to cater to everyone while always having something in each update for everyone.

I think I would've done the following and much easier for me with benefit of hindsight.

I wouldn't have points for specific characters, I would have had "Filthy", "Lesbian" and "Loyal Wife" (I dislike good wife)

Filthy would've resolved around Dylan
Lesbian would've resolved around Ellie
Loyal Wife would've resolved around some random guy no one cares about, think his name is Liam


An example of choices would be straight yes or no, if you vote yes, then individual choices to include other characters in that route afterward

Let's take the lesbian route for example.

yes = everything with Ellie but optional choices for separate and maybe combined scenes with Julia, Patricia, Sam and Zach's mum, Alyssa and ?

no = then nothing at all but still get a choice on Patricia yes/no, Alyssa yes/no, maid yes/no but most likely be limited as you did choose no to begin with.

Essentially the main story is resolved around Dylan, Ellie, and Liam, other characters can interact individually with Sophia but that goes towards the filthy, lesbian, loyal wife score which dictates what you see with Dylan, Ellie and Liam.

Updates would be 5 timezone a day, early morning, late morning, early afternoon, late afternoon, and evening. one event in each.

Updates would be depending on the story but they always are focused on filthy, lesbian, loyal wife. I think I would set it as you can't do all 3 in 1 playthrough, have to choose 1 out of the 3 per playthrough. But then again, I prob would go with a linear storyline as well as L&P has.

Obviously, I have not fleshed it out completely but I think this is a rough idea of what I would do.

Lastly, I would've kept that twist with Dylan, it was epic and shame L&P removed it.
I agree with what you said about what characters to focus on in the story and the layout. Before he revamped or added additional scenes to the novel, L&P's plan for the novel was four to five years of storytelling, but now he extended it to beyond 20 years. During the revamp or additions to his old story, he held two polls that reflected who the top five were in each survey.

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From a business perspective, he should have focused more on the story with the top five: Dylan, Ellie, and Patricia. As they are the driving factor behind his novel and members of Patreon, you can pick up a couple of others like Sam and Aiden, who are popular too. But as Hlextor said, reduce the amount the scenes the others have, or he could eliminate the ones that don't have a great role to play, like the museum guys, Mr. Bennett (scaled back), Emma, etc...

The other thing I probably would have done was remove Dylan's plot of SEX-ED. IMO, the SEX-ED plots are the most challenging plots to transition out into something else. It's usually over burdensome and is not a great theme for storytelling. IMO, he had other characters that could have been used or other methods that could have been good, like maybe using Alyssa and Zac; as Alyssa said to Sophia is that Zac is the only man in her life. Alyssa could have shared with her when the time was right, or Sophia could have caught them in the act, which becomes a turn-on for her are a couple of ideas.

Ellie should definitely have more scenes and be on par with Dylan. Sophia and Ellie's story has a nice chronological feel to it, but it's fast due to no more time-lapses, and that goes for the same as Patricia's well. Also, you can add a hand full of characters as a supporting cast, like a couple of Ellie's friends (Christine and Julia) and Sophia's friends (Alyssa, Natalie, and Amber) to help facilitate the story, and the same with Dylan (Sam and Zac), Liam (Cathy and Andy, Neil).

Also, you can keep Liam in the game for the Good Wife side. Good Wife can be the realistic path, and the Filthy route can be the fantasy side if that's how the reader wants to look at it, as you can cover both areas.
 
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Hlextor

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I agree with what you said about what characters to focus on in the story and the layout. Before he revamped or added additional scenes to the novel, L&P's plan for the novel was four to five years of storytelling, but now he extended it to beyond 20 years. During the revamp or additions to his old story, he held two polls that reflected who the top five were in each survey.

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From a business perspective, he should have focused more on the story with the top five: Dylan, Ellie, and Patricia. As they are the driving factor behind his novel and members of Patreon, you can pick up a couple of others like Sam and Aiden, who are popular too. But as Hlextor said, reduce the amount the scenes the others have, or he could eliminate the ones that don't have a great role to play, like the museum guys, Mr. Bennett (scaled back), Emma, etc...

The other thing I probably would have done was remove Dylan's plot of SEX-ED. IMO, the SEX-ED plots are the most challenging plots to transition out into something else. It's usually over burdensome and is not a great theme for storytelling. IMO, he had other characters that could have been used or other methods that could have been good, like maybe using Alyssa and Zac; as Alyssa said to Sophia is that Zac is the only man in her life. Alyssa could have shared with her when the time was right, or Sophia could have caught them in the act, which becomes a turn-on for her are a couple of ideas.

Ellie should definitely have more scenes and be on par with Dylan. Sophia and Ellie's story has a nice chronological feel to it, but it's fast due to no more time-lapses, and that goes for the same as Patricia's well. Also, you can add a hand full of characters as a supporting cast, like a couple of Ellie's friends (Christine and Julia) and Sophia's friends (Alyssa, Natalie, and Amber) to help facilitate the story, and the same with Dylan (Sam and Zac), Liam (Cathy and Andy, Neil).

Also, you can keep Liam in the game for the Good Wife side. Good Wife can be the realistic path, and the Filthy route can be the fantasy side if that's how the reader wants to look at it, as you can cover both areas.
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Dr.SigmundFap

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How long does the programming/translation usually take?
If you go by his words, he can only translate 2 to 2.5 pages daily, with 19 or 20 pages. So that should be between 8-10 days, but he didn't move the bar on P&T yesterday, which should have been P&T's first day. So I don't know if P&T is going to take longer now. Plus, he needs a couple of days, usually 2, for testing.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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Little by little the game loses its purpose, it moves so far away from the purpose for which many play it, namely: incest.
Right now, His Patreon member count is stagnant. He hits 2k members every month, but then it's reduced to 1500-1600 every new month reset for the last couple of years. He plateaus out with his member count. But the question becomes how much patience his members have for saying enough is enough. Some of them start reducing the tier to a lower tier, I guess to show him that they are becoming impatience now.
 

Hlextor

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Little by little the game loses its purpose, it moves so far away from the purpose for which many play it, namely: incest.
Right now, His Patreon member count is stagnant. He hits 2k members every month, but then it's reduced to 1500-1600 every new month reset for the last couple of years. He plateaus out with his member count. But the question becomes how much patience his members have for saying enough is enough. Some of them start reducing the tier to a lower tier, I guess to show him that they are becoming impatience now.
I dare to make a prediction! If now the events with Dylan, Ellie, and Patricia happen, he won't drop below 2000 anymore, not even like regularly at the beginning of the month.
 
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drax 4998

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Horny Son? Check
Horny Daughter? Check
Horny Son's friend (Also neighbor)? Check
Horny Sister? Check
Horny Fellow Milf? Check
Horny Classmate/ Milf Friends son? Check
Horny Maid? Check
Blackmail Bastard? Check
Friends for Threesome? Check
Old Man? Check x2
Teen who lacks knowledge on sex? Check x3

Then you go to the possibilities of
Horny Sisters Husband
Horny Daughters Friend
Horny Mailman

Who else am I missing?
Dilevery guy
Don MarloI think...
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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I dare to make a prediction! If now the events with Dylan, Ellie, and Patricia happen, he won't drop below 2000 anymore, not even like regularly at the beginning of the month. If that doesn't show him that he should change something in the story, then I don't know what more clues (including the poll) he needs. Or he is happy with patrons between 1500 - 2000. Then so be it.
He could be content with the current member count. Who knows. I'm curious about how many members dropped their tier to lower levels with his current count because of the progress on content.
 

crabboid

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What are some good alternatives out there for fans of dynamics like Sam and Sophia? By that, I mean a younger “kid” (teenager/young adult) and an older woman. Bonus points if it’s a friend’s mom situation or teacher.

I’ve already enjoyed Photo Hunt, Halfway House, Milfy City, Lust Academy, Demon Boy, Being a DIK, Savior, The Visit, A Mother’s Love, Summertime Saga, and Measuring My Cum.

I’m trying to see if there’s any hidden gems out there that I’m missing.
 

RUSSIAN MAFIA

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Seriously... What do you expect from an update! :lepew:
1) Sophia's full nudity!
2) Partial exposure of Sofia!
3) A scene not related to Sam's room!
4) Someone out of the way // will be caught!
5) Just playing with Sam!
6) Your option! ;) :coffee:
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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What are some good alternatives out there for fans of dynamics like Sam and Sophia? By that, I mean a younger “kid” (teenager/young adult) and an older woman. Bonus points if it’s a friend’s mom situation or teacher.

I’ve already enjoyed Photo Hunt, Halfway House, Milfy City, Lust Academy, Demon Boy, Being a DIK, Savior, The Visit, A Mother’s Love, Summertime Saga, and Measuring My Cum.

I’m trying to see if there’s any hidden gems out there that I’m missing.
There's F.I.L.F, Heart Problems, Duality, Back to the Cabin, Chasing Sunset, Apocalust, QPrey, Fresh Women, Dreams of Desire, My Pleasure, Seducing the Devil, Shut Up and Dance, Sunshine Love, Timestamp series, The Office, Milfs of Sunville. If you haven't tried out those VNs.
 

jonnybravo11

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Seriously... What do you expect from an update! :lepew:
1) Sophia's full nudity!
2) Partial exposure of Sofia!
3) A scene not related to Sam's room!
4) Someone out of the way // will be caught!
5) Just playing with Sam!
6) Your option! ;) :coffee:
Fabric Enthusiastic will happy.

1. rubbing the penis over the fabric
2. licking pussy over the fabric
3. dry humping Sam over the fabric
4. Sophia will orgasm from over the fabric yoni massage

Sam or Sophia will be getting off in this update IMO, which is a big step their relationship.
 

ToshinRaizen

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i hope this new update move the story... the dev has been dangling the carrot for too long... and sex with husband does not count.. 7000 xt /xtx next month... and under 1K + normal power pin cable
 
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