VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[GayLord Jesus]

Edit : I re-installed this v0.185 and now that bug is gone. Same Saves though. Hmm..!

{ Is that particular bug (Sam and Sophia cello event after previous game night's pub & bathtub event) in v0.185 fixed yet? }



Bug skips this particular event completely jumping to Sophia and Dylan beauty parlor scene -Dylan stealing money event,



Without triggering Sophia & Sam sexy cello event (sam's dad interrupting first & then sam's sister Julia interrupting later).

 

[Key.key06]

people, it just seems so to me or many people notice that sophia is much more comfortable and interested in doing various stupidity and sexual pranks with this siliznik to sems, but it’s not always comfortable with dilans even if his points are higher than those of sems .. sometimes it’s not very convenient to do with dilans sexy pranks and silliness? Is this just what I noticed or do many people think so

 

[Brazzoth]

Looking at the schedule, the update will be suspended for a while after Christine's party.

That's when the LP will start working on the steam and the development period will start for 3 months after that.

But I don't know what LP is going to post on Steam.

No sex and that's not a romance simulation game and I don't know what the content is there to sell this game to Steam.

I've seen games sold to Steam and stopped developing a few times, so somehow I have a little anxiety that LP is going to sell this game to Steam and run away.

It's a really stupid news to know that it's going on steam, not much money will be made threw it since it's a one time payment, so it means that the game on steam 'dol' will be a complete game?

is it another excuse of him to delay the development or is it the only way to dedicate more time?
like I said after each update, the development is stopped for about 10 days, what is he doing during this time, vacation??
on average the render time is only about 30 hours per month (scene creation might be equal or around 50) and even though it's not a full time job, haven't he reached the goal of quitting university already?? so he should have full time on the game for a long time already.
dude goes on anxiety crisis after each update or those anxiety are just another bullshit lol

 

[Brazzoth]

Everyone is ignoring the pandemic effect. Many people had lots of hours at home, and time for AVNs available. The same happened with streamers and esports, their audience fell down as the pandemic finished and people are spending more hours in their real lifes. BADIK, Milfy City or AWAM have inflated numbers because they took advantage of those years, but they do not reflect the real state of AVNs in 2023. I guess all of them have patreons that are paying 5$/month, ddon't follow the game and they are not aware at all of the chargings.

Also you have the age problem. For me, as I found the game 1 year ago, I still have very very present the days when Dylan and Sam where youngsters who didn't knew how to swim and who though putting their hand on Sophia's hip while playing basketball was the end game for them. For me they are something around 13 and the slow developed kids, the geeks, not the chads of their promotion. Suddenly, in 3/4 days, they are about to have sexual experiences with the mother, and the girls around them are giving them relationships or sexual openings. For me its mind blowing because it makes absolutely no sense.

The game needs somekind of "5 years later..." to make any sense at all. Whitout it, all the Dylan and Sam are absolute SHIT lines. It's on the edge of legal consecuences. If you see Dylan or Sam as 17yo, if they are cool, have some swagger and nice bodies, you can understand certain degree of sexual attraction. Speak to any school teacher in real life, that attraction is real. But if you think of them as geeky 13s (as they were portrayed initially), this is creepy as fuck and if I was the neighbour who finds this out, I was calling social services and the police. This is not exciting incest, this is child abuse. The game faces this problem, if you watch the game from start to finish, its child abuse, if you only have last episodes in mind, then its unrealistic but posible with lots of perspective stretch and shity writting aceptance.

So the problem is that the author has to please 3 audience now. The steam puritans, the people who are tired of waiting for 6 years and want the sex scenes NOW, and the people like me that want a good novel and are not interested in exchanging shity writing for cheap short 3dcg porn clips. It's almost imposible. So as the game tries to stretch itself to cater all audiences, it's downfalling into shit.

The last flashback killed me, I must admit that my preference for this novel had fallen HEAVILY. It was top tier for me, but now it's low tier. For me this was the king of FMC NOVEL, now I know its going to be a soft porn clip once every 3 months. Nah, not worth. I think this is going in my mind to the same drawer as Milfy City, check randomly once a year or so if its already finished.

I agree on the first part, for the second one, you forgot that this is FICTIONNAL, yes it is weird and immoral but don't put a personnal matter on fantasy, like Sophia said: one is reality, the other fantasy

 

[palmtrees89]

Is that particular bug (Sam and Sophia cello event after previous game night's pub & bathtub event) in v0.185 fixed yet?

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Bug skips this particular event completely jumping to Sophia and Dylan beauty parlor scene -Dylan stealing money event,

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Without triggering Sophia & Sam sexy cello event (sam's dad interrupting first & then sam's sister Julia interrupting later).

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You probably just don't meet the requirements in your save to get this scene, is all.

 

[nik1211]

is it another excuse of him to delay the development or is it the only way to dedicate more time?
like I said after each update, the development is stopped for about 10 days, what is he doing during this time, vacation??
He just smile and thinks that what a masturbatory piece I created and people are paying for it and just Sophia face gives them extreme pleasure so they squirt right there.

 

[Cid Kagenō]

people, it just seems so to me or many people notice that sophia is much more comfortable and interested in doing various stupidity and sexual pranks with this siliznik to sems, but it’s not always comfortable with dilans even if his points are higher than those of sems .. sometimes it’s not very convenient to do with dilans sexy pranks and silliness? Is this just what I noticed or do many people think so

Because Dylan is her son, incest is wrong, so she's uncomfortable.
After that incident she was worried about her relationship with Dylan.
part 2 Sophia may accept incest relationship with Dylan.

 

[bayrischman]

Explain a bit better would you? I don't understand "not meeting requirements" like what?
I had unlocked this scene when it was "NEW" in gallery, I'm still using that same save from before, however in v0.185 update this Sam - Sophia event cuts off abruptly after "secret girlfriend" kiss - jumping off to Dylan - Sophia parlor event start.

Explain a bit better would you? I don't understand "not meeting requirements" like what?
I had unlocked this scene when it was "NEW" in gallery, I'm still using that same save from before, however in v0.185 update this Sam - Sophia event cuts off abruptly after "secret girlfriend" kiss - jumping off to Dylan - Sophia parlor event start.

samhas to touch her pussy, underwater in the scene

 

[tofhdns]

Stockholm syndrome.

The developer of this game puts off sex as much as possible.

Those who supported the game also admit that the game is now getting boring, making a lot of errors, and that the lines have become childish.

Nevertheless, they praise sex in other games and say they want it, but they still say it's unnecessary and cheap in front of this game for LP.

There comes a moment when everyone, everything, and every situation becomes ashes after the flame.

The other game is boring because it shows everything and there's nothing more to show, but this game is boring without showing anything.

And yet they say everything is fine.

They became hostages of Stockholm.

 

[Brazzoth]

First of all, wrtitting the story and selling it can face real legal consequences. This "industry" is not an isolated island. Look at how many "real porn" html novels are spamming this days, some using Youtubers as avatars. It's a matter of time til one of those porn companies or individuals sue the creators. It's a clock ticking that is about to happen as the "real porn novel" is starting to spam.

Second, if you portray a real world scenario, not scifi spaceships, medieval orcs, magical creatures, etc... When we look at that world, we aply a minimum of real world logic.

Why are all this FMC novels start with convenient isolation? Why? Because its needed. Every AVN start with "a couple moved to a new city and they dont know anyone there" (except for a convenient token character to corrupt the MC). You dont blackmail a real bimbo with a phone picture in real life unless you are an absolute idiot. Every bimbo you know is a phone call away to bring to your life a bouncer and 5 of this friends to "paint you the face". Every bimbo you know is a phone call away to talk with really dangerous people and ask them for a favor, and trust me, those guys are willing to charge for the favor so they will gladly overcommit. Every person you know has a familiar who works in the police, or lawyer, or politician, or military, or ar part of a boxing gym, or its involved in drugs, etc... And every woman keep a fair share of those in their phone's agenda. So isolation is required for her to be helpless, otherwise none of her options makes any sense.

The authors know that its stupid most of the situations but at least they try to build an excuse. And that is because they somehow have to obey to real world rules because its a real world based scenario.

If a 35yo woman has sex in her visible backyard with a 13yo, and someone spots that, police enforcement are going to ring that door soon. I'm not a 16yo, as an adult I know this is part of the situation and I cannot ignore it. And also, the MC is an adult, she shouldn't ignore it. Between 18 to 30 you will see a lot of legal shit in your life (unless you dont leave your computer at home), and once you experience it, legal consequences are not something you can ignore anymore. But, once again, I'm guessing this industry is a bunch of 16yo incel dudes faping like if there is no tomorrow.

I haven't said you were wrong, you don't need to get on your high horse, we're all adults here, we understand that situation.
You're just putting a personal matter on a game, there's game where murder is present (and even worse), does it make it moral? you can't put exception on morality, that's the only thing I was telling you. if you want to call the cops on Sophia go ahead
this game is not realistic at all, but is more realistic than the others in some ways
if you have experience with dating un derage that's probably why you're so focused on this, personnaly I don't

 

[TomUK]

If a 35yo woman has sex in her visible backyard with a 13yo, and someone spots that, police enforcement are going to ring that door soon. I'm not a 16yo, as an adult I know this is part of the situation and I cannot ignore it. And also, the MC is an adult, she shouldn't ignore it. Between 18 to 30 you will see a lot of legal shit in your life (unless you dont leave your computer at home), and once you experience it, legal consequences are not something you can ignore anymore. But, once again, I'm guessing this industry is a bunch of 16yo incel dudes faping like if there is no tomorrow.

I think if anyone on here saw a fit 35 year old woman having sex with a 13 year old, the last thing they would be doing is calling the cops, most probably they would quickly get their phone out and start recording and them use it to blackmail the woman for sex themselves.

 

[Brazzoth]

I think if anyone on here saw a fit 35 year old woman having sex with a 13 year old, the last thing they would be doing is calling the cops, most probably they would quickly get their phone out and start recording and them use it to blackmail the woman for sex themselves.

Honestly, this guy calls himself an adult but he probably lives in a puritan country or wahtever, sadly the world is actually more fucked up than it is and if he had talked a bit more with peoples, he'll be shocked by their experiences, call them liar or whatever but the reality is that a lot of stuff happen in all matters not only about the sexual part and most people are unaware off it actually because they're too busy with themselves which is understandable

 

[tofhdns]

I haven't said you were wrong, you don't need to get on your high horse, we're all adults here, we understand that situation.
You're just putting a personal matter on a game, there's game where murder is present (and even worse), does it make it moral? you can't put exception on morality, that's the only thing I was telling you. if you want to call the cops on Sophia go ahead
this game is not realistic at all, but is more realistic than the others in some ways
if you have experience with dating un derage that's probably why you're so focused on this, personnaly I don't

You can see rape, murder, drugs, etc. in many movies.

Just because the actors did those things in the movie doesn't mean they get kicked out. Since it's a movie.

However, things change when selling such movies.

Screening ratings are limited and sometimes subject to legal punishment.

The Luxu_Esp is talking about this.

he don't mean to punish Sofia legally.

The Luxu_Esp is also saying that the game should be realsm to some extent because it is based on reality, and that a realism has been broken in many ways.

You're just being sarcastic.

 

[TomUK]

It also depends on how you present the MC (in her inner dialogs).

For example, Her Desire, the mother is very light, sensual and sexual, FOMO & YOLO, so when you take lewd paths, it is congruent, feels natural, and you enjoy the trip and put her in every posible sex scenario. She is not corrupted, she is just exploring and having fun, so that novel is about raising her buying temperature, her mood, opening more and more sex situations, and you want lots of them.

Here Sophia was presented as a conservative prude housewife, so extramarital sex should be hard, and extramarital sex + extreme ilegal taboo, should be extremely hard. It's not about sex, it's about her corruption.

I dont think its "too much sex or not enough" and we are never satisfied. For me is more about congruence and good character development. I can play full sexual quick scenes, or I can play full prude slow burn. What I hate is when I'm presented one idea, I invest time, and then the author betrays it.

I think you missed the difference between the two, in Her Desire she is around people who are bit a little bit less reserved and people she has known for a long time.

In AWAM Sophia is living in a new city, where the temperature is a lot warmer than she is used to and people wear more revealing clothing than she is used to, she doesn't know too many people, just her neighbours and her sister, everyone she meets is more open in their sexuality than she is used to, she is slowly being 'corrupted' into this way of life. It for realistic reasons takes time, you can't just go from 'prudish' to 'hedonistic' in a matter of weeks.

 

[TomUK]

Honestly, this guy calls himself an adult but he probably lives in a puritan country or wahtever, sadly the world is actually more fucked up than it is and if he had talked a bit more with peoples, he'll be shocked by their experiences, call them liar or whatever but the reality is that a lot of stuff happen in all matters not only about the sexual part and most people are unaware off it actually because they're too busy with themselves which is understandable

Not even sure what your point is when everyone on this site is perverted in some way or they wouldn't be here.

 

[tofhdns]

It also depends on how you present the MC (in her inner dialogs).

For example, Her Desire, the mother is very light, sensual and sexual, FOMO & YOLO, so when you take lewd paths, it is congruent, feels natural, and you enjoy the trip and put her in every posible sex scenario. She is not corrupted, she is just exploring and having fun, so that novel is about raising her buying temperature, her mood, opening more and more sex situations, and you want lots of them.

Here Sophia was presented as a conservative prude housewife, so extramarital sex should be hard, and extramarital sex + extreme ilegal taboo, should be extremely hard. It's not about sex, it's about her corruption.

I dont think its "too much sex or not enough" and we are never satisfied. For me is more about congruence and good character development. I can play full sexual quick scenes, or I can play full prude slow burn. What I hate is when I'm presented one idea, I invest time, and then the author betrays it.

Definitely betrayed.

And the betrayal felt the same way even supporters.

The developer did not keep what he said and the sponsors were disappointed.

So the developer had to find a way. and destroy Sofia's past and turn her from a conservative to a whore.

This inconsistent behavior can also be seen in Dylan and Ellie.

 

[Brazzoth]

You can see rape, murder, drugs, etc. in many movies.

Just because the actors did those things in the movie doesn't mean they get kicked out. Since it's a movie.

However, things change when selling such movies.

Screening ratings are limited and sometimes subject to legal punishment.

The Luxu_Esp is talking about this.

he don't mean to punish Sofia legally.

The Luxu_Esp is also saying that the game should be realsm to some extent because it is based on reality, and that a realism has been broken in many ways.

You're just being sarcastic.

Yes I do because he's been arrogant, I'm all aware of the restriction in this type of content that are getting stricter the more the time pass, yes he is right on the fact that she's is careless about it, but that's what we've been all been talking about, L&P has changed the behavior of the protagonist many times because, Patreons rules (I'm talking about the vote that are manly focused on Sam, Ellie, Dylan, Ava's wards and Aiden).

And for a fact, the only sexual scene happening in her backyard is in the hot tube which is at night and not really visible for outsiders and even on that, sadly not everybody would have called the popo for some kissings lol

I would have preferably enjoyed a Sofia becoming a hotwife with younger man in their 20's (college guy, sauna/nightclub that disappeared) than her becoming a sex charity educator for virgin teens
But hey, Sofia apparently lives before 2010 where internet is not full of social media and stuff and where phones are not that great...

 

[roshan07]

can anyone who plays amnesia v0.93a give me the link??

 

[tofhdns]

I think you missed the difference between the two, in Her Desire she is around people who are bit a little bit less reserved and people she has known for a long time.

In AWAM Sophia is living in a new city, where the temperature is a lot warmer than she is used to and people wear more revealing clothing than she is used to, she doesn't know too many people, just her neighbours and her sister, everyone she meets is more open in their sexuality than she is used to, she is slowly being 'corrupted' into this way of life. It for realistic reasons takes time, you can't just go from 'prudish' to 'hedonistic' in a matter of weeks.

This is a slightly different word.

Sofia is not affected by the circumstances around her.
To be precise, it is extremely limited.

Sophia is distinguished when she is in front of Sam or Dylan and when she is with Ava's children or Alicia.

This is why people are told that the story of this game is all disconnected and flows mainly on events.

 

[Brazzoth]

Im from Europe, Spain. Im guessing you are from the US. If you think Spain is a prude country, you better get your female friends drunk and then ask them about their years or holidays here, we loved to receive your americans, germans or british girlfriends, it's dating and clubbing on easy mode, sex in less than 1 hour

But even in my country, where we have huge nude beaches, 24hours clubbing, and summer is hot as fuck, we still have laws.

Filming someone inside of their private property (the backyard is private property even if it doesn't have a ceiling) breaks many laws, but filming them having sex is even worse.That multilaw breaking in Spain is always sued with 7 years of prision.

But it gets worse, that was just for having them for private usage in your phone, but if you upload those or share those, it goes up to 10, and if the place where you share them has any kind of monetization (even if the uploader doesnt make any money as long as someone somehow does it) its 14 years of jail.

But it's even worse. If you go and blackmail a woman into sex, thats legally rape under coercion. In the previous scenarios you can swap the years of jail for a money fee, but once you get to this point, jail is innevitable and its going to be 15years (it doesnt up much because we have total years limit in our system).

So from here we have two ideas. First of all, why do you need a blackmail to have sex? Man, what a looser! You have ingrained incel mentallity. Bro, hit the gym, make some money and quit that shit. You need to quit porn, your brain is fucked up heavily.

Second. Of course I dont want to see all this legal thing in a novel, and of course I understand Sam or Dylan wouldn't know something like that. But man, Sophia and Liam should. WTF! Why is it so hard to understand? Maybe I'm breaking your dream of sleeping with your mom? FFS! This is so weird! OMG! You need profesional help, urgently.

HAHAHAHA Okay it has gone too far. We definitly don't understand each other

I haven't talked about the blackmail part, which if you can find my previous messages, I agree with you the blackmail is illogical and too naive BUT is optionnal, you take this path only to see her corruption (even though Sofia accept the blackmail just to be corrupted and not being blackmailed)

Second, there's was no sex scene outside of Liam in Sofia's backyard, so that's actually why I was pointing out the fact why would it go that way for some teasing?

Who filmed who? I don't get it... When did I agreed on blackmail, are you sober?

I'm not american but european just like you. You're on this forum playing some porn game to have a good wank, why do you have to justify your sex life?
Even if what you said is true (I have even seen ugly bastard make out with some hot blondie, but yeah with alcohol and drugs a lot of stuff happen I guess, everybody put it's boundaries), it doesn't feel like it's your own experience.

Edit: I think you wanted to answer to TomUK and not me