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you're not God my boy, and most of the people agree with my ideas. if you like this game well, i'm be happy for you. but let people who are tired of the endless teasing to speach about it.
excellent post, yeah AWAM story advancement is frustrating but it helps when you realize the main story is the corruption of Sophia and everything that happens go towards corrupting Sophia into having sex with someone else not named Liam. GW route isn't the main story and Filthy route is, that is why I think there always be less content and missed opportunities on the GW route.Man, so much frustration and anger in this thread! Say what you will, but L&P's game has definitely inspired passion from the players.
Personally, I don't mind the lack of hardcore sex in this game. When I want that I can go to just about any other game in the world. AWAM is trying for something different, and that's how I calibrate my expectations. I think L&P is going to be one of those creators that I support every so often for short periods of time. When he does good work I'll support him, and when he goes on a 4 month hiatus I'll pull back my support. I think the game is fun to discuss, and I do wish a lot of things about it were different, but don't let it ruin your day if someone loves or hates it.
Originally I had planned on following the good wife path because it felt the most appropriate for Sophia's character. But there's a push/pull in that you as a paying customer are missing 90% of the game's content if you go that route- so you're literally paying for something that you aren't utilizing. To Blockout's point, the GW path feels like a huge missed opportunity. Liam could be developed so much better on that route, and we could get a better sense of why Sophia loves him. It would also make sense that this route could have the earlier payoff for sex (and I mean good sex) because it would be in character. This is a problem that a lot of corruption games have; the non-corruption path is devoid of content. Games like this always seem ask the player to choose the character's path, but practically speaking there's rarely a reason to chose the non-corruption story because you're missing everything. I recently started playing Jessica O'Neil's Hard News and it has the same problem. If you play her as a respectable person there are only minor benefits, but it costs you the bulk of the content. It's a big resource commitment, but if you really want players to choose then there has to be exclusive content on both paths. It does seem that the GW path is about to get more attention in AWAM, but I wonder if it's going to be enough.
From a purely creative standpoint, AWAM does frustrate me. Not because of the lack of sex, but because of how long it is taking to tell a story. As a creator it feels like L&P is somewhere beyond the Point of Diminishing Returns, and is somewhere around the Point of Negative Returns. He's putting in a lot of input, but I'm not sure it's resulting in appropriate levels of output. At some point good enough really is good enough. Sometimes you just need to put the pencil down and release what you have. This doesn't mean you need to rush the final product, but it does mean you can't always wait until everything is perfect. I have suggested before that I think he should give himself a firm schedule- that way he knows what restraints he has. If the next release is going to be 1/3 of a day, and he gives himself 3 months to complete it, then he knows what he has to work with. He has to deliver enough content for 1/3 of a day, and he needs to do it in 90 days (just an example, but I think 3 months is a sweet spot). From there he can dedicate resources appropriately. Right now he's only doing half of that, he knows the scope of the release but he doesn't set a firm release date. In my mind that's a mistake because it allows him to endlessly tweak and change things and that results in delays.
I presume you talking to me, we on page 2312 in this thread and most of them have the same complaints you talking about, how many more pages of the same complaints do you want? Especially since the complaints are complete nonsense.you're not God my boy, and most of the people agree with my ideas. if you like this game well, i'm be happy for you. but let people who are tired of the endless teasing to speach about it.
again another guy who thinks that chatting in a forum is like to win/loose a boxe fight...I presume you talking to me, we on page 2312 in this thread and most of them have the same complaints you talking about, how many more pages of the same complaints do you want? Especially since the complaints are complete nonsense.
When you post, you invite people to comment, if you can't handle people disproven your complaints, then maybe you should rethink your complaints or post at all![]()
1) its boxing fight and not boxe fightagain another guy who thinks that chatting in a forum is like to win/loose a boxe fight...
"...SPEACK FOR YOURSELF...": this was you, not me... of course i speak for myself and not in others behalf... apart from that, regardless youlike or not, a dev that do not listen to the fanbase community is destined to failure... if lots of people do not like the teasing nonsense anymore he should consider this as a warning in my thinking.
Hey, hey, easy there, Fido. Don't recall we've been drinking together, buddy, so leave your cocky attitude elsewhere.pure nonsense my boy! i'll tell you: i was a big patreon of the dev and i can assure you 2 things for sure: 1) the dev DO NOT listen to the patreon community or the game's fanbase, he's fucking deaf and thids will be his graveyard for his project i assure you; 2) the dev's milking the patreon community to the last drop regardless you're liking it or not.
just make 2+2 and you'll find why he will loose all patreons wery soon if he will notchange his fucking attitude with patreon community and fanbase.
cocky attitude? sit down, take a long inspiration, take another one... stop insulting people who think otherwise your opinion and grow up a little... as i said i was a big patreon of l&p: this is the way to help artists, i mean with hard currency, not insulting others and blabbering like you. by the way i'm an artist myself and i know to accept others opinion since i play and make music from ages till now. by the way, with guys like you its time WAISTED. by by...Hey, hey, easy there, Fido. Don't recall we've been drinking together, buddy, so leave your cocky attitude elsewhere.
You're entitled to your opinion, that's fine, but please don't tell us what to do and we won't tell you where to go.
I see no indication that L&P is loosing his supporters unless you can prove otherwise. Daydreaming is quite alright but you gonna have to face the reality time to time. There are way too many crybabies in this thread. There's plenty of wanking material on this forum or on specific web sites.
Why are you here, guys? Yes, most likely L&P doesn't give a flying F about our complaints, are you happy about that now? Will this info improve your lives, make you happier? The Dev is working at his own pace, accept or move along.
It's because there are so many routes in the game. If each route was like a separate story-game, then there would be no problems with storytelling.Overall, I feel that AWAM has lost it's balance in the routes
Well the dev shouldn't have included so many routes in the game, its already so slow paced compared to others but then also having so many characters is just too much.It's because there are so many routes in the game. If each route was like a separate story-game, then there would be no problems with storytelling.
On the contrary, I like a large number of routes. In my opinion, this will not be a problem for the game if all these routes have interesting development. But if these are empty routes, without interesting content, then yes, this is bad!Well the dev shouldn't have included so many routes in the game, its already so slow paced compared to others but then also having so many characters is just too much.
Don't expect second and third part to go faster.They are much bigger and probably more complex(after all we are talking for scenes with much more characters-school,second side job,especially Sam's concert).Not to mention we can expect some events to be even bigger than the ones we have so far.L&P started on October 2nd on the first 1/3 day update. It's worrying, in terms of production speed, for 1/3. But, L&P has moved, it may have been late, etc. It's his life, that's up to him. We have nothing to say about it. But if the production speed doesn't change, then going down to 1/3 doesn't help at all. We will have the real answer with the second 1/3. If it's not going faster than the current update, we're going to have to worry.
The way you butcher the language and speak utter gibberish, if you were subscribed to my patreon page I'd be deaf to you as well.pure nonsense my boy! i'll tell you: i was a big patreon of the dev and i can assure you 2 things for sure: 1) the dev DO NOT listen to the patreon community or the game's fanbase, he's fucking deaf and thids will be his graveyard for his project i assure you; 2) the dev's milking the patreon community to the last drop regardless you're liking it or not.
just make 2+2 and you'll find why he will loose all patreons wery soon if he will notchange his fucking attitude with patreon community and fanbase.
I don't think there's anything hinting at this, but who knows. Patricia definitely seems like the sort of character that would be calculating enough to see/plan for something and slow play it for her advantage. I don't know why, but I was actually surprised with her behavior towards Dylan, I didn't expect that and it makes me wonder if she'll do something similar with Ellie.Alright time to change the topic and maybe get back on the discussion here
So I been thinking about the Dylan voyeur shower scene and I have a theory, I'm thinking that Patricia was aware of Dylan spying and if she is, that would be awesome.
In past, I said I didn't like it as Sophia is MC but also said in past, I don't mind someone else being MC if it helps to advance the story, I couldn't see any logical reason for Dylan shower scene, accept it was a really cool scene and people would enjoy it. However, I now think Patricia saw Dylan and didn't say anything to anyone as she most likely really enjoyed it.
Maybe I'm wrong but I could see this leading to Patricia telling Sophia and further goes towards corrupting Sophia into having sex with Dylan.
This got me thinking. Corruption stories are hot, but I think there is a conflict in their implementation. By definition, for a character to be corrupted they need to be innocent at the beginning. But, in order for the corruption to be believable (because that's what makes it erotic) it needs to be slow. This creates a conflict because the character needs extensive time to become corrupted enough to allow for lewd scenes. Move too quickly and you lose the sense of corruption that comes from the build-up of tension, but move too slow and the game feels stalled. Sophia begins AWAM very innocent for someone her age and experience, so it has taken relentless corruption to get her to where she is today. That's taken years of development. But at the same time it's only been like two and a half weeks since the game began. In less than a month, Sophia has gone from an innocent loving wife, to a conflicted and adventurous woman. When you play the game from start to finish, it's an almost relentless stream of pressure on her since day 1. I think that actually hurts the game because in fewer than 20 days she has gone from purely innocent to going to second base with her daughter in the shower- that's crazy to think about. But would it be better if it was slower? Absolutely not, we're not getting any younger.excellent post, yeah AWAM story advancement is frustrating but it helps when you realize the main story is the corruption of Sophia and everything that happens go towards corrupting Sophia into having sex with someone else not named Liam. GW route isn't the main story and Filthy route is, that is why I think there always be less content and missed opportunities on the GW route.
AWAM is frustrating to me as I would prefer there were no scenes with Liam at all and the whole casino story wasn't in-game. To be fair though, we can look at any VN/Game and always find something we would prefer was different.
Don't expect second and third part to go faster.They are much bigger and probably more complex(after all we are talking for scenes with much more characters-school,second side job,especially Sam's concert).Not to mention we can expect some events to be even bigger than the ones we have so far.
That looks great as always. The other women visiting looks awfully dressed up, but whatever- it's great. The only thing that stands out to me is that Liam's collar looks weird.View attachment 928285
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Don't worry. Sophia will speak alone with him.
It's on her how "happy" she will leave Don Morello's brother behind which will also have bearing on Don Morello's mood.