VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

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Notretsam

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I'm embarrassed to ask this but who the hell is Vicky?

:D I bet soon as I read a reply on who she is, I will be like, ugh, should have remembered her.
 
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Alley_Cat

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kevin.a said:
When will we see the museum guys again? Will it be in the next update?
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Hell no. Not until day 14 for the date with Sophia and Patricia at the museum. But it's only a small part anyway, and then they disappear

Notretsam said:
I'm embarrassed to ask this but who the hell is Vicky?

:D I bet soon as I read a reply on who she is, I will be like, ugh, should have remembered her.
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The gym instructor
 
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Alley_Cat said:
I think it's more L&P's style to withhold information, then to intentionally give us misleading information. He'll hint at things, but not give exact information. And then we have to wait until updates come out to find out what's really going on. Like in the Yoga event - he didn't say it was going to be a lesbian event, only that it was going to be female dominant, featuring Sophia/Patricia/Claire/Marie. So when most of the event turns out to be Dylan focused, with options to set up Dylan/Marie, and for him to spy on the women and jerk off - L&P's description was entirely accurate, just lacking in detail.

Where people might be feeling mislead is when things don't turn out the way they think it should. For example, all the people that think this is a porn game. So when there aren't the sex scenes they were expecting, they think he is being dishonest. So the complaints about milking start.

And I'll admit I'm a little guilty of it too. When I first played this a bit over a year ago, after playing the GW route, I tried the lesbian route, and really enjoyed it, seeing all the possibilities - the maid, the gym instructor, the MILF, the student, the sister, the daughter, her friend, her dance friends, the neighbour - and it was great. But now, we'll be lucky if the lesbian route gets three of those - likely Ellie, Patricia and Nathalie. Possibly Jules, but I don't want to get my hopes up. But it's starting to make me a little bitter about the game. And I wouldn't be feeling bitter at all if we were told that characters like Emma and Vicki weren't going to end up on the lesbian route.

Especially since some of the other games I've started to play, the devs are being for more forthcoming with what their plans are.
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I understand that point about the lesbian route comments. With the exception of Emma I was hoping that Sophia would have sex with all of those you listed, even if some scenes were on different routes (e.g. our previous discussion of Sophia/Ellie/Julia and Sophia/Alyssa/Antonio being on completely separate routes).

I have said before that I wondered whether some (the likes of Nathalie/Vicky/Marie) were included purely to increase the lesbian temptation of Sophia so that she will accept having sex with the likes of Patricia and Ellie.

I am still hopeful that we will get most of these scenes but if so then we need significant progress over the next few updates.
 
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Poser_Voyeur

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Alley_Cat said:
Hell no. Not until day 14 for the date with Sophia and Patricia at the museum. But it's only a small part anyway, and then they disappear


The gym instructor
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It's a shame that it has taken so long for the museum visit. I have no problems with Jason and Haru being introduced to further corrupt Sophia and then being dropped, but they should have had the museum visit a week or so after they first met.

By the time we eventually get around to seeing them it will b a question of who cares. They could have been written better in terms of when they were included in the overall storyline.
 
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Existence X

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The game duration time is planned but there's nothing saying L&P won't make DLCs or spin-offs after that with scenes of Sophia x whoever he teased but didn't have the time to make it happen (at least I never read him commenting about this after game plans, what makes sense because it would be a topic for 2040).
 
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armion82

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Jude6 said:
I assumed he's so dressed up for the prison visit because he's going straight to work after - it's late morning on a weekday when this scene takes place and they've already established he wears a full suit to work.

More broadly though I think Liam wasn't dressed up for the meeting with Don Morello the night before because the Dev wanted to further highlight the differences between the two men - when Sophia first meets the Don, he points out that Liam is rocking double-denim (which is seen as kind of tacky) while Morello has been in a full tuxedo both times we've seen him. This pushes the idea that Morello is sophisticated while Liam is not.

I find it more odd that Liam, who works in the designer fashion industry, would be heading out to a fancy casino in his tackiest outfit.
But you could look at that as an indication of how dull Liam has become as a person; marriage, kids, 9-5+overtime job all wearing him down and stopping him from making an effort, both in how he dresses and how he treats his wife - providing motivation for Sophia to become unsatisfied.
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What do you expect.This Liam is not Liam we all know as Batman's and Obi Wan Kenobi's teacher.
The dev definitely made a mistake using that name for such a plain character.
 
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