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Wow so you either really forget what he said here or you just pretend you forget.Pics or it didn't happen. Where's the screencap of L&P saying that? Or post from here? Or anything to substantiate what you're saying, really.
There are over 2500 pages and it was just a question.Wow so you either really forget what he said here or you just pretend you forget.
And you just decide to not use the search function?
This is a weird response. If you have a picture of the statement from L&P, or a link, just share it.Wow so you either really forget what he said here or you just pretend you forget.
And you just decide to not use the search function?
I can provide evidence to pretty much everything I claim. And what I can't, it's because like the timeline of Aiden's tasks, I've said is based on assumptions, so the data will change once someone can provide better evidence.Wow so you either really forget what he said here or you just pretend you forget.
And you just decide to not use the search function?
A significant role!!!!!!!!I can provide evidence to pretty much everything I claim. And what I can't, it's because like the timeline of Aiden's tasks, I've said is based on assumptions, so the data will change once someone can provide better evidence.
All I'm asking is where you get the information from. If you can't provide that, that's not my responsibility
What a surprise. Then again, maybe not, after all he's only got 2 gears & one them is STOP.
I GOTS TWO SPEEDS... you don't like the first one... then you gonna fucking hate the second oneWhat a surprise. Then again, maybe not, after all he's only got 2 gears & one them is STOP.
Is it STOP?I GOTS TWO SPEEDS... you don't like the first one... then you gonna fucking hate the second one
heard a hillbilly say that to a foreman once, when he told him he was behind schedule... then the hillbilly guy walked away and went to lunchIs it STOP?
Seriously, I've been thinking that there needs to be a better way to reward productive Devs & donate less to those who shall we politely say are, 'not as timely'. I asked for views a while ago but nobody really took it up. I know it's a bit rich coming from a freeloader like me but I do support other artists on Patreon. I have come & gone with several, in order to sample a number of different people's work but not have some big long-term financial commitment. I am edging towards a PBR system, (Payment By Results) which didn't really appeal to me when I worked in HR but which I think might be appropriate for Patreon. There would have to be safeguards for people being ill etc., but I don't advocate to stop paying people, while a game is ongoing. Ultra-slow Devs would still be on some kind of reduced retainer. I'm still thinking about it & would still like to hear other views.heard a hillbilly say that to a foreman once, when he told him he was behind schedule
dont most patreons have pay tiers? or if they don't produce anything in 30 or 60 days then stop subscribing until they do produceSeriously, I've been thinking that there needs to be a better way to reward productive Devs & donate less to those who shall we politely say are, 'not as timely'. I asked for views a while ago but nobody really took it up. I know it's a bit rich coming from a freeloader like me but I do support other artists on Patreon. I have come & gone with several, in order to sample a number of different people's work but not have some big long-term financial commitment. I am edging towards a PBR system, (Payment By Results) which didn't really appeal to me when I worked in HR but which I think might be appropriate for Patreon. There would have to be safeguards for people being ill etc., but I don't advocate to stop paying people, while a game is ongoing. Ultra-slow Devs would still be on some kind of reduced retainer. I'm still thinking about it & would still like to hear other views.
yeah, when are the old guys gonna play 'grab ass' with her?Do we know if there is going to be a teaser for the first side job? Is it even worth having a teaser? Only reason I pick it is because it is short and boring so I can CTRL-skip to the content I like. It starting to look necro, or Leah showing up are the only reasons I can see for doing the second side job at the moment.
Yes there will be a teaser Alley_CatDo we know if there is going to be a teaser for the first side job? Is it even worth having a teaser? Only reason I pick it is because it is short and boring so I can CTRL-skip to the content I like. It starting to look necro, or Leah showing up are the only reasons I can see for doing the second side job at the moment.
They do have choices of tiers but PBR is more about motivating an individual to produce more, or better, or both. One of the reasons I used to mistrust the system was because of the ways it could be used, eg rewarding individuals for hitting targets in an easy role, while somebody else with a much harder job would struggle to benefit from PBR. Patreon is different, as everything could be done in an impersonal way, eg where a game is classified as abandoned, payment would stop, to be resumed if the Dev returned to it. This would take a lot of work to design & implement but the alternative is just to carry on as we are. This of course is also a viable opton but I never knew any manager who pressed the 'do nothing' button.dont most patreons have pay tiers? or if they don't produce anything in 30 or 60 days then stop subscribing until they do produce
well, if people start taking the pay away because of no content, that should motivate a creator to create. the pay shouldn't continue to be given if there's no regular content. if you're unhappy with content or service don't pay until you areThey do have choices of tiers but PBR is more about motivating an individual to produce more, or better, or both. One of the reasons I used to mistrust the system was because of the ways it could be used, eg rewarding individuals for hitting targets in an easy role, while somebody else with a much harder job would struggle to benefit from PBR. Patreon is different, as everything could be done in an impersonal way, eg where a game is classified as abandoned, payment would stop, to be resumed if the Dev returned to it. This would take a lot of work to design & implement but the alternative is just to carry on as we are. This of course is also a viable opton but I never knew any manager who pressed the 'do nothing' button.
L&P does too, but since he is withholding how much he's making, it's impossible to say if anyone is switching to lower tiers during periods of inactivity. However according todont most patreons have pay tiers? or if they don't produce anything in 30 or 60 days then stop subscribing until they do produce
Well yes, that's the way it operates now (& is one the reasons I'm a freeloader with this game) but a mass withdrawl of funds is unlikely to happen in a case such as AWAM. I wouldn't advocate this anyway, because it could lead to Devs just walking away. I'm trying to come up with a system which would reward effort, eg it could be something as simple as the Dev stating a completion date & delivering on time. So, this would need an element of the subscription to be withheld & only released if the target was met. Devs & Patrons would both need to sign up for this & I can forsee problems but this is why I've let the concept slide....too difficult? It was only when I saw those four 0% signs a week after the work was supposed to start that I thought of it seriously again. It's one of those things that may need to go back to the drawing board several times.well, if people start taking the pay away because of no content, that should motivate a creator to create. the pay shouldn't continue to be given if there's no regular content. if you're unhappy with content or service don't pay until you are
The top tier teaser was Sophia and Ellie changing in the bathroom togtherL&P does too, but since he is withholding how much he's making, it's impossible to say if anyone is switching to lower tiers during periods of inactivity. However according toYou must be registered to see the links, patreons are starting to drop their patronage during the months without updates. It's only a recent thing though, and we'll probably need to wait until the end of Feb to see if it's an actual thing
What was the top-tier teaser btw? I recall someone being rather dismissive about it probably being just Ellie and Sophia in the bathroom. Since the top-tier teasers seem to be the only incentive to being in the top tier