Atton563

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I hope i get a chance to see lesbian sex actions on the update 130 if not it won't be worth it
I think we are quite aways from any sex that isn't with Liam at the minute although lesbian sex will most likely be the first action we see but I still think that is at least a year if not two away so don't get your hopes up.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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He could choose an picture where Dylan is not there.
Maybe there is also an important element, and that he prefers that we have the surprise.
So I took a trip into L&P's Patreon Past post, and here are some things I can share. He didn't share any previews from his major event (ver. 0.085 8/22/2019) with Sopha/Dylan because he didn't want to hint about the mall scene and the flashing of her breast to Dylan. The Pool/Bikini event wasn't really a major event as it wasn't really on the same level as the mall event, so he did follow up with a preview pick for the pool/bikini scene.

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Also, Here a post for people who want to re-think what Aiden's task could be. It's going to have to be something somewhat big to prevent Dylan from going to boarding school and get her to stop Aiden's task. If I had to guess, I think it might be in the line of a stripper scene show maybe just showing and she a toy may be involved for of Aiden and his gang or Aiden alone and possibly walk away with evidence that she was blackmail into doing this for him, but that just a guess on my part.

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ancienregimele

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True, some sex before would be ideal, but even with a previous intercourse if you're not born with little talent you need more practice.
But I'd come up with a counterexample.The viagra scene, it would have been normal for Dylan to come very quickly. What I mean is that neither he nor Sam immediately comes in their pants when they see a naked woman.
Plus, the foot massage scene, Dylan showed that he can control himself and that his intention is to give pleasure in the first place.
Well, that scene with Dylan & his prolonged erection was another example of realism taking a break. I began to feel impatient, along with Sophia, that he was taking so long to reach a climax. I started to think he must have been studying with a master of tantric sex, or perhaps that viagra had been a bad batch. Speaking of which, my guess is that however fast the lads can 'get back up,' it's going to be the third attempt at least before they can have anything like the self-control to fulfil theirs & Sophia's desires.

My point about Sophia looking odd was not explicit enough, because any delays could be a time to have second thoughts about exactly what the hell she thinks she's doing, especially in Dylan's case. What feels like eons ago, I wrote a scenario where Sophia could have sex with Dylan to comfort him as a result of him being broken-hearted after breaking up with his first girlfriend &/or first love. Despite the distaste of some for consolation sex, I still see this as the most realistic option with her own son & it would be a once only event & secret between them.

Presumably Dylan & Sam know enough to use their fap material to indulge in preparatory masturbation as a means to avoid premature ejaculation. This could help, if it occurred a few hours or a day, before they shagged Sophia. They would, however, have to know what was "coming" (pun intended), which would cancel any story of spontaneous passion. IMO that's the only way Sam is ever going to get lucky, unless Sophia actually tells him when & where they're going to have sex & I can't see that happening, unless she has become the "whore" most of us don't want to see.

It becomes too technical after a while, all this speculation about the mechanics of a successful sexual encounter. It's a real passion killer! Sophia should talk to Liam & get him to practice some orgasm delaying techniques. At Liam's age he should have read up on these, or at least got some advice but obviously he hasn't & Sophia probably finds it too difficult a subject to bring up. An adult man bragging about lasting six minutes was another departure from realism BUT this is where I came in.
 

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Maybe he's simply referring to the fact that he cannot post pictures of Mother-Son relationship on Patreon? (I mean any kind of relationship, not just sexual, to avoid getting much attention given the rules on Patreon)

Also sorry for the dumb question but what's a "dlc"? :unsure:
"dlc" = downloadable content.

It's a term used in Computer Software / Computer Games, where it is additional content over and above the base product. Often used to get extra revenue as often charged as an extra cost over and above the base product cost to be able to download this additional content.
 

Atton563

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Sophia and Patricia or Sophia and Ellie
By sex act i assuming you meant another event like Ellie in the shower. Yes we have had kissing between them and showing naked and in Sophia and Ellie's case even mastubation in front of her but that's still not her going down on either of them and still not actually sex, The actual sex is going to take a while yet.
 

Turret

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"dlc" = downloadable content.

It's a term used in Computer Software / Computer Games, where it is additional content over and above the base product. Often used to get extra revenue as often charged as an extra cost over and above the base product cost to be able to download this additional content.
Depending on the Developers, DLC can take many forms! In some cases DLC is nice to great to have, if it is Fanstuff or Expansions of good base games, but not needed. In other cases, like EA or Paradox, DLC is a Blight on Existence! Companies like them sell overpriced DLC, which should have been in the base game, but was purposely ommited to cashgrab later.
 

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We don't have too many evocations of the characters' past.
Some flashbacks like Ellie and Julia would be good to give substance to the characters.

Maybe you are right, Sophia is just kind.

After class, there is an allusion to the novels :

'Wuthering Heights', Emily Brontë
'The Tenant of Wildfell Hall' and 'Jane Eyre', Anne Brontë
'Intrigue and Love', Friedrich von Schiller
'The Sorrows of Young Werther', Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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I don't know what is the implicit message but these books tell forbidden love stories.
By choosing to study these books, Sophia surely has an idea behind her head. :sneaky:

Either Sophia is really into the idea of opening Emma's mind, or she wants to put some forbidden ideas into Emma's head. Who knows ? :unsure:
Thanks - I had nt read any of those books so I did nt realise it was a hint at what Sophia was thinking.

Re the relationship between Sophia and Emma, I have always interpreted it that Sophia saw some of her younger self in Emma. And that by setting Dylan up with Emma that it would be good for both Emma and Dylan. And thus Emma would avoid some of the mistakes that Sophia made by marrying Liam so young.

I think we had hints in the dialogue that Sophia had a wilder time when she was younger, but crucially I don't remember any mention of serious boyfriends before Liam. So for me that is why Sophia struggles to express to Liam what she wants, sexually and otherwise, and for so long has put up with feeling dissatisfied for so long.

Hence why I hope the ratcheting up of Sophia's corruption will eventually reach a pressure cooker moment....
 
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Poser_Voyeur

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Depending on the Developers, DLC can take many forms! In some cases DLC is nice to great to have, if it is Fanstuff or Expansions of good base games, but not needed. In other cases, like EA or Paradox, DLC is a Blight on Existence! Companies like them sell overpriced DLC, which should have been in the base game, but was purposely ommited to cashgrab later.
Spot on - I was thinking about EA and Battlefront in particular for doing just that.
 
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Also, Here a post for people who want to re-think what Aiden's task could be.
to be clear, you are referring to the 4th task, PD 13, not the 3rd one of the upcoming release, right?
The thing is that it will be during Sophia's class, so it has to be something related to the school.
 

Turret

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Spot on - I was thinking about EA and Battlefront in particular for doing just that.
Never played Battlefront and try to stay away from EA/Origin as much as possible, after ME2 I stopped buying their stuff. When it comes to a bit smaller companies, Paradox was once a great company, very open to the fans, but that is in the past. Once they became successful, they turned into something as needed as measles.
Now they push launchers (which to this day do not work well), decorated with spyware (complete with lies, eh, creative stories about EU law compliance) on the users. In addition, their base games became barebones, so to better sell overpriced DLC. For instance, Europa Universalis 3 (a game before Paradox got drunk on something) had 5 DLCs, all true expansions with middling prices. EU 4 has about two dozen DLCs (still running), all with very limited additions, even Sprite packs cost extra, up to the price of the base game.
 

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He says the "most comfortable" solution is on day 20, PD 13, which is also the day of the 4th task.
To me it sounds like that if u don't like Aiden's path, you can drop the deal without sending Dylan away and interrupting his storyline only at that point (4th task) not before. Maybe because new things will come up, e.g. cf "3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)" in the planning for 0.150

Also, if by "Until then" he means "until the two solutions becomes available", in that case, once again, we cannot expect "nothing that extreme anyway".
 

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So I took a trip into L&P's Patreon Past post, and here are some things I can share. He didn't share any previews from his major event (ver. 0.085 8/22/2019) with Sopha/Dylan because he didn't want to hint about the mall scene and the flashing of her breast to Dylan. The Pool/Bikini event wasn't really a major event as it wasn't really on the same level as the mall event, so he did follow up with a preview pick for the pool/bikini scene.

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Also, Here a post for people who want to re-think what Aiden's task could be. It's going to have to be something somewhat big to prevent Dylan from going to boarding school and get her to stop Aiden's task. If I had to guess, I think it might be in the line of a stripper scene show maybe just showing and she a toy may be involved for of Aiden and his gang or Aiden alone and possibly walk away with evidence that she was blackmail into doing this for him, but that just a guess on my part.

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"That extreme" is it mean in sexual context? Like touching or feeling her body
 

Tennyson@

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So the day in .130 is going to start after the meeting of don morello's brother? If that's the case then she is already heated up after meeting Larry then ,Aiden's task more heat(maybe) and then Dylan event this sounds interesting
 

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He says the "most comfortable" solution is on day 20, PD 13, which is also the day of the 4th task.
To me it sounds like that if u don't like Aiden's path, you can drop the deal without sending Dylan away and interrupting his storyline only at that point (4th task) not before. Maybe because new things will come up, e.g. cf "3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)" in the planning for 0.150

Also, if by "Until then" he means "until the two solutions becomes available", in that case, once again, we cannot expect "nothing that extreme anyway".
It is supposedly important that you do up to the 3rd task.
The interesting options later could have to do with a favor being asked
 
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Jude6

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Why would anyone play this game and pick the GW path?...
I like the GW route, it's obviously not my main path but I like that it's there for two reasons.
A. it'll be nice to see the characters enjoy a happy ending and still get some (vanilla) sexy content along the way.
B. there's a game called Good Girl Gone Bad (female MC, corruption) that had a Good Girl path with decently written scenes, but there were also a handful of excellent corruption storylines that didn't kick off until 3/5 of the way through, that you could only start if you had been a good girl up to that point. For the people who enjoy seeing the corruption process more than the result.
This game's Good Wife path has a scene with Sophia visiting Liam's office in lingerie for some sexy time, but she accidentally exposes herself to Liam's boss and the walkthrough says this will affect later events so I'm optimistic.

... it still doesn't explain how a storyline like the coaching job could be introduced and then canceled all within one update...
That's fair, the Coaching event did seem like a clean way to consolidate a few different paths together.
But I can also see the argument against it - players not on the Aiden path would have missed it entirely, plus it would presumably revolve around Dylan & Zac (with the rest of the team serving as a peanut gallery to whatever Sophia geta up to) but not all players on the Dylan path are on the Zac path, and vice-versa. This means every Coaching event would end up like the bikini show (on a technical level) with L&P having to render versions with Dylan & Zac, with Dylan and no Zac... It would have been messy to implement.
It is also possible that L&P had the Coaching event planned from early doors, with a planned introduction for the current day but had to drop it straight away because, consolidating or not, it still feels enough like a new storyline to raise complaints.

He could choose an picture where Dylan is not there...
I'm willing to bet nexer is right, L&P could be worried about complacent patrons running their mouths in the comments.
 
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