Solcom

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I'll agree. If Sophia and Patricia arrive at the bar together, and then go home together, that leaves very narrow window for anything to happen with Sam. If this event is actually a Patricia and Sophia event instead of Sam and Sophia, then ok maybe that makes more sense; but our understanding is that this event exists to advance the relationship with Sam. If Sophia leaves the bar with Patricia without some significant progress with Sam, it's going to feel like like the Sam storyline is spinning its wheels.
Patricia is more open mind than Sophia. When Patrica notice some romance intention of Sam vs Sophia. She will agree to let Sam take Sophia Home.

Patrica Always push Sophia to get more Sexual Free.
 

BorgiaBou

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So what you were suggesting here is that the concert and Cathy's event are interleaved?
I mean, what if during the concert Sophia gets the call to go to Cathy's, at that point she has to leave under the disheartened eyes of Sam who is still performing. Cathy's event happens and once they get back Sophia e.g. randomly meets Sam coming back from the concert and that's the solo moment (I don't know where though, but in a "simpler" environment). I mean something like that, where the two sub events "concert" and "solo moment" happen at different time of the night, with Cathy's event in between.

That could make sense whether Sam's event plays or not (being optional)
This would actually make some sense, at Cathy's Sophia is having some drinks and when she comes home Liam being Liam goes to sleep and leaves Sophia hanging she goes down stairs maybe starting a bottle of vine alone in her yard and boom that's when Sam comes home...
 

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It is probably possible to reduce the size of cars and bring other proportions of objects and people in the game into line with reality, but this will definitely take a very long time, which is already not enough for the development of the game!

I would prefer to leave everything as it is, without delving into these problems.
It doesn't take a lot of time, there is a universal scale setting in DAZ that can be used to scale an object and all it's child objects. It's a few seconds at most.

I agree we don't want L&P going through every scene and checking assets for scale, and especially the characters, but discrepancies between things like the van next to the car are easily avoidable.
 

Goga011

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I thank you for sharing this conversation with L&P, but this was already made clear to me by the post on the daz3d forum I just mentioned. The problem that I think remains unresolved is that a car that in reality should be about 1.30 m tall ( ) looks much bigger in its 3d version (Sam and the other band members seem to be little taller than the car). So I wonder if it's possible to reduce its size to make it more realistic.
When you are 5 foot high all cars looks oversized ;)
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Scarlet56

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OK, the van looks like a chevy astro minivan. Short but, tall. In fact too tall for most garages of the day hence low sales vice the Chrysler products when mini vans started. Two, Sam has oversized tires which probably requires a suspension lift so he does not shred them on the wheel well and damage the wheel well. This would jack the car up. However, I agree that Sam still looks puny next to it. He should at least have his ass level with the hood. It is not like he has monster truck wheels on. Please see the beautiful supercharged Nova below. Just Sayin'!
I prefer Takumi's AE 86 Trueno. :p
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r0rschack

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I thank you for sharing this conversation with L&P, but this was already made clear to me by the post on the daz3d forum I just mentioned. The problem that I think remains unresolved is that a car that in reality should be about 1.30 m tall ( ) looks much bigger in its 3d version (Sam and the other band members seem to be little taller than the car). So I wonder if it's possible to reduce its size to make it more realistic.
I’m sorry, is having an update once every six months not bad enough for you?
 

xxxorro

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This would actually make some sense, at Cathy's Sophia is having some drinks and when she comes home Liam being Liam goes to sleep and leaves Sophia hanging she goes down stairs maybe starting a bottle of vine alone in her yard and boom that's when Sam comes home...
the Tree house?Sophie and sam meet there or another visit to Sam room :unsure:
As far as we know, L&P said the alcohol won't be a factor in this event, or at least it is not going to have much influence.
Apart from that, this is the other possibility.

And if we really want to involve the tree house, maybe Sam will be sobbing or sulking inside the tree house because the concert was not a success, Sophia's left, both of them, etc. Sophia could go there to console him. Similarly to the previous day event at the pool but this time Sophia will come over.
For the expert out there, is this the asset for the tree house , it seems so to me (with some scaling maybe):
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It seems a little bit smaller for two but for sure it can give some intimacy.

Personally I think it won't go down the pity/drama route. If really Sophia has to leave during the concert, sure he can play the guilty card card. But I have the impression that this is more a "romantic" route (not with "pure" intentions, though). Could there be a different scenario than a concert fiasco that leads to an intimate/solo moment? :unsure:
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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Some of you boys have very active imaginations! The theories you come up with for these scenes are always very elaborate. I would put money on the line that the Sam storyline will not be continued in this update after leaving the bar. There won't be an after party at the house, no whimsical meeting in the tree house, no alcohol to blur her judgment. Whatever progress Sam makes will happen at the bar. The most you'll get is Sam giving Sophia a ride home.

If anything happens in the tree house I swear to God I'll change my avatar to Sam's shit eating grin and a caption of "I Luv L&P". Or something equally absurd. That's how confident I am that nothing will happen in the treehouse.
 

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Some of you boys have very active imaginations! The theories you come up with for these scenes are always very elaborate. I would put money on the line that the Sam storyline will not be continued in this update after leaving the bar. There won't be an after party at the house, no whimsical meeting in the tree house, no alcohol to blur her judgment. Whatever progress Sam makes will happen at the bar. The most you'll get is Sam giving Sophia a ride home.

If anything happens in the tree house I swear to God I'll change my avatar to Sam's shit eating grin and a caption of "I Luv L&P". Or something equally absurd. That's how confident I am that nothing will happen in the treehouse.
Smart girl :ROFLMAO:.
Of course no one will go up to the treehouse. It'll be pretty dark and it's Sam's house. In real life, what would it be like to have Sam's mom see you coming down from the tree house? Or Neil? Or Julia. Too risky.

Wanna bet there won't be an interesting scene after the concert? And after they leave the bar?
If you lose I have some interesting ideas that Aiden should be ashamed of :sneaky::ROFLMAO:
 

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This topic came up also with the truck belonging to Ellie’s friend in a previous teaser - the Daz model is clearly based on the Ford 150 which is a pretty big truck, but next to (Christine?) it looks like a small car.

I think the scale issues we see here at the bar are twofold:
The van is way too small, perhaps as much as 25%.
American muscle cars from the 70’s were very large, I think the issue there is maybe more due to the “make me young” morph presets in Daz that (in my very limited experience, mind you) make characters a lot shorter than the base model. I clicked the “make me teen” preset on a male figure and they went from like 5’10” to like 5’4”, and the whole body shrank proportionally. If these kids are all in their later teens then most of them should near full-grown height, just less filled out in terms of body frame.
When the issue of oversized assets was brought up, this was n't the way I expected it to turn out!!
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Alley_Cat

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Some of you boys have very active imaginations! The theories you come up with for these scenes are always very elaborate. I would put money on the line that the Sam storyline will not be continued in this update after leaving the bar. There won't be an after party at the house, no whimsical meeting in the tree house, no alcohol to blur her judgment. Whatever progress Sam makes will happen at the bar. The most you'll get is Sam giving Sophia a ride home.

If anything happens in the tree house I swear to God I'll change my avatar to Sam's shit eating grin and a caption of "I Luv L&P". Or something equally absurd. That's how confident I am that nothing will happen in the treehouse.
I've been fairly confident nothing significant will happen at the bar since Sophia said she should bring Patricia and Ellie. Purposely distancing herself because of his admission. All the theories presented so far appear to me to be baseless speculations in the hope that something does happen.

But then I'm not expecting anything significant to happen between Sophia and the boys until playable day 16.

My theory is that Dylan will secretly come there and fuck that tattooed barmaid
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There's absolutely no reason to believe Dylan even knows about the bar, let alone there's a busty barmaid there.
 
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Here in Shanghai it's 5 o'clock in the morning, I'm drinking my coffee before to start work and thinking....this thread is becoming insane...
 
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Poser_Voyeur

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Some of you boys have very active imaginations! The theories you come up with for these scenes are always very elaborate. I would put money on the line that the Sam storyline will not be continued in this update after leaving the bar. There won't be an after party at the house, no whimsical meeting in the tree house, no alcohol to blur her judgment. Whatever progress Sam makes will happen at the bar. The most you'll get is Sam giving Sophia a ride home.

If anything happens in the tree house I swear to God I'll change my avatar to Sam's shit eating grin and a caption of "I Luv L&P". Or something equally absurd. That's how confident I am that nothing will happen in the treehouse.
I had interpreted L&P's previous comments that 3rd main scene, the concert, was going to have two parts with the bar itself just being the first part. Hence all the discussion about maybe Sophia and Sam in Sam's car etc.

Then the 4th main scene will be at Andy and Cathy's house.
 
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