VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Deleted member 2176748]

Pretty sure, Superbowl is always on Sunday and not on Saturday (Bar Scene)

 

[t3alqdansam]

And do you think you and everyone else have added something since the start of development?
Some have spent days, weeks, and months here indulging their imaginations, fantasizing about what will happen in the next game updates and giving dev ideas for spicing things up and speeding up the development cycle. Did they make things happen? No! Because the dev has already got an idea of how he will manage his game in the most beneficial way for him and him alone. And so he has never taken into consideration the advice of others including his supporters because with his little brain he thinks that it risks upsetting his balance (financially of course).
Indeed, Viper started by giving him advice on how to accelerate the development cycle based on his very small experience on DAZ and he also asked him to respect his commitments to his supporters such as hiring helpers once his goals were reached. Which would also have accelerated the pace of the game. And we all saw how the dev started to put forward pretexts and justifications that made no sense just to keep things as they are and continue to perceive the same. income for the next 20 years.
After that Viper started to think the dev is a milker and has said it several times here and I totally agree with him.
And the reason why no one can blame us for thinking so, apart from the technical tools that were offered to him to go faster such as the rendering farm for example that he refused, There is a point on which he cheated and that no one will be able to defend him on it, is the fact of promising provisions to improve the game in order to bait supporters. and once the goals are reached, he gives us tons of bullshit to justify the fact that he cannot keep his promises. And it's called a scam.

And as you see today, almost all of those who have downloaded the update agree with Viper's opinion that the content can in no way justify the 5 months of work at a rate of 11 hours a day whatever the level of quality put into it.

And even the adulators and defendants cannot find anything to say except a few timid interventions in an ocean of criticism. While it is clear that they are also disappointed but that they cannot show it to keep their self-esteem and dignity. But one thing is certain, they can no longer find the words to defend L&P.

Even Bane17 or whatever is his nickname who has always been a staunch defender of L&P has come to admit that all this is true but that L&P must have good reason for this slowness and lack of content in such a long development cycle. reasons that he alone evokes but that no one knows.

Finally, and seeing the lack of enthusiasm noted before the update release compared to past times and the general disappointment after the release, I think this game has started to reach its limits and it's the beginning of the end and it is a real shame.
L&P looks like he's caught in its own trap.
Today, it is clear from the reviews of those who played the update, that he no longer know whether to give in to the enormous pressure created by the fact that people doesn't accept the fact that the game is going to take 20 years to be finished, and its own temptation to make it last forever.
Result: He accelerates Sam's route in an insane way until making him lick Sophia's pussy while there has been no proper relationship building between the two that suggests such an escalation. And he does it just to give the impression he's speeding things up. But very quickly he is caught up by his desire to make the game last and he makes him do that above the fabric and therefore he leaves players with an update where they do not even see a nipple. And that's a big step back from the game's general progression line. The same goes for the Natalie route. Sophia almost never had a real discussion with her. But all of a sudden she spreads her legs to let her play with her pussy. Incredible for such a modest mother!
While there are other characters who had more interactions with the MC and with whom these scenes would have been acceptable.

But I believe L&P decided to give the impression of speeding things up following the review after the last update and it coincided with the two long-planned Sam and Natalie scenes, so he went ahead without thinking about consistency in his history.

This guy, trying to get the most out of his game doesn't know he's literally killing it.

I do not encourage you to read one of my posts some time ago (After .130). So far back it is. However (Having not yet downloaded this update) I stated that Production rate and Deliverable was his key. I also stated he needed to fix it by this update or the failure would start to manifest itself. I am not disagreeing with these point of yours that we clearly concur.

My only point was that Donk spews little NEW. He has said the same for a year or more. That was the point. I am not even saying his concepts are wrong. He just achieves nothing with his venom. That was the reason I ignored him. It was the same drivel every time. This may be before your time but, Donk is a broken record. No one listens to broken records.

I do not defend L&P with the exception his artwork is top notch. Everything else is questionable in my mind. So in this I think we agree to agree.

Though I have not yet downloaded and have worked diligently to avoid spoilers. I also want to thank everyone using gray text and spoiler links

 

[t3alqdansam]

IS A SEX GAME, is not because the protagonist is a female, when i play with a male protagonist i expect him to fuck everything that moves, THE SAME THING WITH A FEMALE. If the developer dont want to make a game with sex, what is the point of making a sex game?

There may be a blue alternative. Have you ever considered that L&P is a sadist and is right now exploding reading all the stress he created. This is HIS game after all. Just sayin'!

 

[SAB23]

I dunno why but im just feelig that is the worst update ever... maybe i have too much expectations...

 

[rev2020]

in the hot lesbian scenes on the sofa

what scene in the sofa?
i have followed the lesbian route and finished the update.
the only two hot scenes with Sophia and Ellie is in the shower

 

[ntrvip]

Mac update?

 

[mickster101]

So what is L&P pulling in monthly from his supporters? They are the ones enabling all that everyone has decried these past YEARS, so complain about/to them. L&P has stumbled upon a money making operation, and shows no signs of relinquishing it. Hard to fault him, if people continue to pour money into his pocket.

 

[Jackreacher8197]

If he is depriving the source of his income their demands why does he have such a popular game. So many patrons. It is your demand that is not satisfied. I am happy and so are many others. Don't speak on everyone's behalf.

Well, the popularity grew due to the initial stages of the game and now, all people are doing is tolerating this game just in the hopes that someday sometime years later they will get some worthy content to get them out of their misery and say "AHHA!!"

If you don't agree with me then just let me speak my mind (which has gone bonkers following this game) and ignore me cuz that's not impossible as opposed to shutting me up which isn't gonna happen also I was speaking on behalf all everyone else that's frustrated by the progress of this game cuz YEAH!! their count is much higher than yours so...

 

[Kakato]

Finally got time to play and... Man, it's without doubt one of the worst update ever...Guess, it's time to move on from this one. What a waste of time. Even the three shota guys from the last update had a better time than Sam. What's the logic ? May be I'm too stupid, but getting this kind of update after 4 years is worst than a Cold Shower.

 

[crabboid]

There's seriously no Sam sex scene, huh? Well, that was a waste of time.

 

[AL.d]

So what is L&P pulling in monthly from his supporters? They are the ones enabling all that everyone has decried these past YEARS, so complain about/to them. L&P has stumbled upon a money making operation, and shows no signs of relinquishing it. Hard to fault him, if people continue to pour money into his pocket.

I saw a video recently about how some popular onlyfans "creators" enjoyed massive growth during their teasing/blueballing period but once they went full hardcore, it started dipping. After the first few vids while it was still novel. So it's obvious there's a pretty big crowd of sim...erm consumers who enjoy getting blueballed from their non-porn and lose interest when the blueballing ends.

I don't get it, but if I happened to stumble upon such a gig and profit from it, I'd sure do just that. As long as I could even. So I don't blame him in the slightest, he 'd be crazy to leave all that money on the table.

 

[TheFather]

There's seriously no Sam sex scene, huh? Well, that was a waste of time.

Indeed .

As the matter of fact, ppl still believe to this liar after 5 years of literally NOTHING.

Man, there's so many better developers to invest in 'em, more honest with proper updates per 1 - eventually 2 months off.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

That has never been the problem with the game.
You could probably write a book about it.
About the early claims made by the dev in this very thread *cough* realism *cough*.
How you may have to wait over a year if you are only interested in a few paths and not all.

I mean there's a reason the outspoken old guard of the fans isn't here anymore to defend what is happening.

Oh those people are still here. It's just that after a while it becomes so fulfilling just watching the same people who constantly complain about the same things over and over again, come back every update to a game they obviously dislike yet continue to play and then return to the forums to complain about the same things over and over again. It's like you enjoy torturing yourselves and want an audience for your outbursts. It's hilarious. Cheers.

 

[SmtYlmzD]

Personally, I'm not very happy with the new update.But to be honest, I loved the swapping part. I'm looking forward to these 2 couples having group sex in the upcoming updates.Cathy's ass looks incredible and Sophie will have solid sex too. At least that's how I imagine it. ^^

In addition, the Ellie scenes excited me a bit. It would be great if there was a blowjob scene for Ellie in the next update.

 

[crabboid]

Indeed .

As the matter of fact, ppl still believe to this liar after 5 years of literally NOTHING.

Man, there's so many better developers to invest in 'em, more honest with proper updates per 1 - eventually 2 months off.

That being the case, are there any decent VNs with a similar vibe, have scenarios similar to the Sam subplot, and actually follow through? Or, I guess like Milfy City or Summertime Saga? I'm a little new to this community.

 

[TheMainEvent]

Is there a pathway where Patricia and Sophia flash at the concert?

 

[clowns234]

Their count is much higher than yours so...

I would guess most people who are not happy here don't financially support him, otherwise they would complain on his patreon or in his discord (if he has one). And I would guess that most those complaining now will be back for the next update.

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

Let's see ... if you don't like it, then don't play it. Many of you comment as if it were something personal ... I would love to know what goes through your head to be so pissed off. LP offers something and x people buy it or subscribe. If I buy something and I don't like it, I don't spend all day in forums criticizing and insulting the creator ... I don't know ... I consult this forum a lot and specifically this post ... and I think many of you miss out on less good. Either they are children or they really should go to a psychologist. Reading more than 1000 pages in a forum about a game and in almost all of them seeing vipermonkey or someone else criticize for so long and with so much anger seems incredible to me ... If LP releases updates faster and with more content, right now I would have more followers (more money) and if tomorrow releases an update of
Sophia giving a blowjob, it would double her income ... you really are very ... to all those who say that he milks, think a little please

If LP releases updates faster and with more content, right now I would have more followers (more money) and if tomorrow releases an update of
Sophia giving a blowjob, it would double her income ... you really are very ... to all those who say that he milks, think a little please

right now I would have more followers (more money)

hey L&P hows it going

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I saw a video recently about how some popular onlyfans "creators" enjoyed massive growth during their teasing/blueballing period but once they went full hardcore, it started dipping. After the first few vids while it was still novel. So it's obvious there's a pretty big crowd of sim...erm consumers who enjoy getting blueballed from their non-porn and lose interest when the blueballing ends.

I don't get it, but if I happened to stumble upon such a gig and profit from it, I'd sure do just that. As long as I could even. So I don't blame him in the slightest, he 'd be crazy to leave all that money on the table.

This isn't unique to porn, it's common throughout fiction. The term "Moonlighting Curse" literally refers to a hit TV show from the 80s that fell apart once the two leads got together. Once you break the tension, most pieces of fiction lose that intangible element that made them special. Very few works of fiction can maintain the audience's interest once the "will they, won't they?" question has been answered.

Hardcore sex is almost so easy to come by that it doesn't differentiate you from the crowd anymore. Creators are better off finding their niche and sticking to it, and only occasionally releasing the sexual tension in short, deliberate, moments. If that isn't for you then that's ok, but it isn't clever to be dismissive of what other find erotic. Absolutely no one should be surprised by the content of this update. If you expected anything else you have only yourself to blame. Yeah, do we all wish these development cycles were faster? Absolutely. Are we all frustrated that it takes 4+ months to get a new update? Yeah. But if you (and I mean anyone, not you specifically) thought anyone was going to have sex with Sophia in this update then you weren't paying attention.

 

[Michael Rawson]

i'm really disappointed with this update. This is the most frustrating update for all fans of dylan in particular.Such progress has been achieved in just one event, which is equivalent to Dylan's 2 years of events.

Sam's event is completely unrealistic.