VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[PietruccioTheHilander]

If it happens that Liam went back to the casino then that would be very stupid of him and Morello could have him thrown out/beat the crap out of him or warn him that next time he will tell his wife.
If Morello did get Liam beaten up Liam could not say a word about it in case his wife found out that he went back to the casino after he promised that he wouldn't go back there and if Morello did get Liam beaten up and Sophia found out about this it would put a different light on Morello for Sophia

without hitting liam, morello could simply call sophia and say that liam has contracted new debts.
and for the sake of their marriage, only the two of them could solve the problem without telling anyone

 

[Old Dog]

Agreed but it's a world isolated from Liam or Carl/Patricia's ears.
The only one in the family who should have heard anything is Dylan. On the Emma/Dylan route it could be Emma or Zach telling Alyssa.

Alyssa knows that Sophia sometimes goes out without wearing a bra but thinks nothing of it(Zac told her)

 

[Old Dog]

Aiden's blackmail is in no way forced either. In my playthrough Sophia simply chooses to tells him to fuck off and goes to Carl for help. Problem solved. No need to get indebted to the Morellos at all. And still get pretty much all of the hot content.

Yes you can tell Aiden to fuckoff and then you lose Alyssa and maybe Zac as well so I would say that it is forced on certain routes

 

[nexer]

Alyssa knows that Sophia sometimes goes out without wearing a bra but thinks nothing of it(Zac told her)

Precisely, I'd be surprised if Zach didn't tell Alyssa the other things.

 

[Old Dog]

Precisely, I'd be surprised if Zach didn't tell Alyssa the other things.

One of the reasons why I think that Alyssa could help Sophia solve her problem with Aiden if you skipped the casino night

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yes you can tell Aiden to fuckoff and then you lose Alyssa and maybe Zac as well so I would say that it is forced

You already know I consider that a negligible price to pay for not having to deal with dicks. And I much prefer the Ellie events you get instead anyway. Still win/win as far as I'm concerned.

 

[nexer]

One of the reasons why I think that Alyssa could help Sophia solve her problem with Aiden if you skipped the casino night

If I remember correctly Alyssa said if Sophia doesn't fix it she will do it her way

 

[Old Dog]

You already know I consider that a negligible price to pay for not having to deal with dicks. And I much prefer the Ellie events you get instead anyway. Still win/win as far as I'm concerned.

Yes I know that you prefer the other side and refusing Aiden and sending Dylan away solves a lot of things for you concerning Dylan.
How much of a difference do you think it will make when Dylan comes home from boarding school?

 

[Old Dog]

If I remember correctly Alyssa said if Sophia doesn't fix it she will do it her way

Yes that was near the start of the game but Sophia said no and that she would fix it herself but other than that we know nothing as to how Alyssa may fix Aidengate

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yes I know that you prefer the other side and refusing Aiden and sending Dylan away solves a lot of things for you concerning Dylan.
How much of a difference do you think it will make when Dylan comes home from boarding school?

Apart from Ellie grumbling that now the peace and quiet is ruined, not much. Some forced events with Dylan like the Yoga event, and the salon event on PD 13 (why does he need to be taken to get a haircut - I was going to the barber by myself when I was 14)

 

[Old Dog]

Apart from Ellie grumbling that now the peace and quiet is ruined, not much. Some forced events with Dylan like the Yoga event, and the salon event on PD 13 (why does he need to be taken to get a haircut - I was going to the barber by myself when I was 14)

I did find that strange as well but we will just have to live with it.
I have sent you a PM concerning a friend of ours

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

If I remember correctly Alyssa said if Sophia doesn't fix it she will do it her way

Yes, she will forcibly introduce him to Antonio and make sure he will never sit properly again.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I know I am a little too late for this but I'll say it now anyways. Had been a bit busy so couldn't complete playing the update until now. So these are my thoughts on the update. This is too long, so maybe you can read this while you have nothing better to do.


Nathalie Event - 8.2/10

Spoiler: Nathalie Is Fire

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Dylan Ellie - 5.7/10

Spoiler: More like Dylan Christine

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Bar Event - 6.2/10

Spoiler: Patricia Saves the Event

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Hot Tub Event - 6.9/10

Spoiler: Sam's Unlimited Confidence

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Cathy Andy Event - 5.0/10

Spoiler: Not as bad as people make it out to be

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Common Issue and My personal opinion

Spoiler: Common Issue and My personal opinion

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Spoiler: Formal Dialogue

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So these are my thoughts
Thankyou to those who read all the way.

 

[Steven Kimpton]

I think a chat or a phone call will suffice.
It's a "Bad Blood" series, a small Asian shop owner whose son is being beaten and extorted by a neighborhood gang, calls a local mob member, not the boss. And this Mafia member, along with another friend, with a gun in the mouth of one of the gang members, explains what they must do from now on.
When the Asian's son would leave the house, the gang boys would take his backpack and walk him to school every morning.
What can I say, quite a show

And it's very possible that Tony knows Aiden's uncle personally. L&P mentioned that Uncle runs in such circles, hard to avoid the boss.

anything to do with Sophia will result in her owing a favour. My suggestion was so Sophia wouldn't be controlled by the Mafia, and she would be free from the Aiden problem.

 

[hzjujk]

After being caught with Ellie, Sophia's main reaction was to nag Liam into fixing the bathroom lock. There is a however the little scene afterwards in the kitchen with Sophia trying to grapple with what she did, and Ellie calming her down. After all, Liam didn't have a problem with what they said they were doing.

What did you need to know? I believe the Julia event Killjoys is talking about is the Midsommer Night's Dream ballet that is mentioned on day 1. It is however an indeterminate time away, so there's no guarantee we'll ever see it.

There is also the dance performance at the community centre with Ellie, Christine, Elena etc. Much of my dismay at the announcement of the Coach Sophia storyline was that these events with a bunch of hot girls were being ignored.

I looked again at the three choices at the hot tube event with Sam. Depending on the decision, Sophia's thoughts are slightly different or more or less intensely shaped by school feelings. The internal argument is weakest when Sam hides behind the bathtub. The question now is whether these decisions, and with them the inner monologue, will have an impact on the future Sam event?
I also found Sophia's thoughts in bed after the Cathy event interesting. She thought about the offer and pretended not to be the one who has already had extramarital sexual experiences. I can understand that L&P writes the scene like this because the Cathy event also takes place without the Sam route, but the inner monologue should look a little different depending on the route.

 

[hzjujk]

Another issue ( which I believe might just be my personal issue ) was the lack of renders. I know I know, everyone will hate this point. But somehow it didn't feel like Awam. There were very less reaction shots, shots that generate a flow to the events. Sometimes things felt rushed. I would consciously think that there would have been a render here but it wasn't. I get that he is actively trying to reduce his render count. But at times it felt it a little abrupt for Awam standards and also at times it felt too stagnant. The renders weren't changing or repetitive renders were being used. Maybe it was because there was a lot more conversation without much happening around the characters and so he didn't do it on purpose. Anyways it was a little off-putting but fine.

I thought I was the only one who felt that way.

 

[Old Dog]

I looked again at the three choices at the hot tube event with Sam. Depending on the decision, Sophia's thoughts are slightly different or more or less intensely shaped by school feelings. The internal argument is weakest when Sam hides behind the bathtub. The question now is whether these decisions, and with them the inner monologue, will have an impact on the future Sam event?
I also found Sophia's thoughts in bed after the Cathy event interesting. She thought about the offer and pretended not to be the one who has already had extramarital sexual experiences. I can understand that L&P writes the scene like this because the Cathy event also takes place without the Sam route, but the inner monologue should look a little different depending on the route.

I personally would like to see more remorse off Sophia instead of Sophia telling Sam off in one instance then receiving a text off Ellie and Sam offers to drive Ellie home and Sophia then acts like nothing ever happened between them. The big talk will probably be about Sophia laying down some grounds rules down for Sam and if he behaves Sophia will treat him to something/kiss/show boobs ect.
As I am sure that Liam would understand and support his wife no problem when/if he found that Sophia had slept with Bennett/Aiden/Dylan/Ellie ect so why should Sophia worry about her husband?

 

[hzjujk]

I personally would like to see more remorse off Sophia instead of Sophia telling Sam off in one instance then receiving a text off Ellie and Sam offers to drive Ellie home and Sophia then acts like nothing ever happened between them. The big talk will probably be about Sophia laying down some grounds rules down for Sam and if he behaves Sophia will treat him to something/kiss/show boobs ect.
As I am sure that Liam would understand and support his wife no problem when/if he found that Sophia had slept with Bennett/Aiden/Dylan/Ellie ect so why should Sophia worry about her husband?

Liam has absolute confidence in his wife at the moment. I can not imagine that he would forgive Sophia if he found out about the affairs afterwards or if Sophia would even catch one. If L&P made Liam react like that he would be, in my eyes, exactly the wimp that I don't see him at the moment.

 

[Old Dog]

Liam has absolute confidence in his wife at the moment. I can not imagine that he would forgive Sophia if he found out about the affairs afterwards or if Sophia would even catch one. If L&P made Liam react like that he would be, in my eyes, exactly the wimp that I don't see him at the moment.

I was being sarcastic on the part about Liam but the remorse part with Sophia I would like to see some guilt and thinking about the consequences of her actions could have on her marriage/career and how it could affect her family/friends.
Her actions could devastate the people who mean the most to her and just now it looks like she really doesn't care that much about the lives that she could destroy in her search for pleasure.
I agree with hzjujk that Liam has complete confidence in his wife just now and no I don't think that Liam would forgive his wife,.When the shit hits the fan I hope that Liam takes everything away from Sophia house/kids/career/leaves he penniless and not even Patricia can help her because of the shame Sophia has brought onto the family

 

[Old Dog]

I looked again at the three choices at the hot tube event with Sam. Depending on the decision, Sophia's thoughts are slightly different or more or less intensely shaped by school feelings. The internal argument is weakest when Sam hides behind the bathtub. The question now is whether these decisions, and with them the inner monologue, will have an impact on the future Sam event?
I also found Sophia's thoughts in bed after the Cathy event interesting. She thought about the offer and pretended not to be the one who has already had extramarital sexual experiences. I can understand that L&P writes the scene like this because the Cathy event also takes place without the Sam route, but the inner monologue should look a little different depending on the route.

Only if Sophia either hides Sam in the hot tub or tell him to hide behind it, Sam will get the option to pick up Ellie from the beach.