Alley_Cat

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What was the point then of dividing the day into events?
The only reason I can see is that then L&P will get close to monthly or bi-monthly updates, in the hope we'll stop complaining about his update speed
Sorry but what's the "Dylan Twist"? It appears to me that L&P clearly favors Ellie over Dylan... the sheer amount of lesbian sexual content speaks for itself. What has Dylan got over each expansion? A back rub and a (gasp) peek at Sophie while she says:
"Oh Son! We shouldn't do that. I'm sorry I'm still your mother"

Meanwhile

"Ellie! Let's lock lips daughter!!!!" "Fucking touch my tits" "Bring our lesbian friend over!"
The Twist was a revelation about Aiden's tasks, but a few days after the update was released it was removed. I liked it, in that showed Dylan to be something other than a horse-dicked son fucking everything with a vag, which is where the Dylan route appears to be heading, hence one of my reasons for my absolute boredon with it.
Sorry lockerxx, I agree with you but it looks like we've been out voted.
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What I don't get, is that there aren't even the hot teens to get distracted by. Even with Evelyn and Pinky, the guys still outnumber the girls 2:1

And wasn't the entire point of the extra characters meant to make the classroom more realistic? 50/50 would be what would achieve that, not what L&P did
 
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So how to see scene with 3 kids and Sophia ??

I try anything but cant see those scenes after 2 old dudes it should be babysitting job with 3 kids ...

Any1 knows ??
 

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So how to see scene with 3 kids and Sophia ??

I try anything but cant see those scenes after 2 old dudes it should be babysitting job with 3 kids ...

Any1 knows ??
Reject the first side job to get the 2nd side job
 

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Yes it will depend on the size of the event so whatever we gain from this update will be lost on bigger updates.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul
Whatever the L&P does, we will always be unhappy ...

For example, here many argue that the L&P needs to accept outside help.
But I always have a bunch of questions about this! Just one of them: Are you sure that you will be satisfied with the results of the work of the development team? ;)
I would like to ask those who insist so strongly. :)

Observing all this scream of discontent towards the L&P, I understand that everyone, both adults and young boys, is eager to find out how the plot develops along some of the arcs of the game! Probably, if the L&P published its story, then these complaints would be by orders of magnitude less, but the interest in the game is also less.
I think so, although I, like any other person, can be wrong.
 

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Every two months is doable, even at the current rate for this update he should make it by January 20-25, which is about 7 weeks total.
2 months x 10 evens = 20 months. How is this better? Disjointed, updates that leave many fans out in the cold, and no faster than before. Yeah the fail is moving to EPIC. I am more and more aligning with GingerSweetGirl s concerns of 'it could have been'.
 
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Whatever the L&P does, we will always be unhappy ...

For example, here many argue that the L&P needs to accept outside help.
But I always have a bunch of questions about this! Just one of them: Are you sure that you will be satisfied with the results of the work of the development team? ;)
I would like to ask those who insist so strongly. :)

Observing all this scream of discontent towards the L&P, I understand that everyone, both adults and young boys, is eager to find out how the plot develops along some of the arcs of the game! Probably, if the L&P published its story, then these complaints would be by orders of magnitude less, but the interest in the game is also less.
I think so, although I, like any other person, can be wrong.
I would be very happy if L&P managed to get updates out in 12/16 weeks or less but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
L&P would have to loosen his tight grip on the game/assets/story and be more open with people, trust them.
People will always complain about things but sometimes they will offer advice/good advice and L&P would dismiss this as critisism.
I was his patron for a very long time and while I wish him no ill will but I do hope that sometimes he will listen people who know
 

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2 months x 10 evens = 20 months. How is this better? Disjointed, updates that leave many fans out in the cold, and no faster than before. Yeah the fail is moving to EPIC.
I said the same thing when this was first mentioned by L&P but I gave him the benefit of doubt
 
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Alley_Cat

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Whatever the L&P does, we will always be unhappy ...

For example, here many argue that the L&P needs to accept outside help.
But I always have a bunch of questions about this! Just one of them: Are you sure that you will be satisfied with the results of the work of the development team? ;)
I would like to ask those who insist so strongly. :)

Observing all this scream of discontent towards the L&P, I understand that everyone, both adults and young boys, is eager to find out how the plot develops along some of the arcs of the game! Probably, if the L&P published its story, then these complaints would be by orders of magnitude less, but the interest in the game is also less.
I think so, although I, like any other person, can be wrong.
Are you honestly expecting those just wanting Dylan to fuck Sophia to give a shit about render quality?
 
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Wait what Ellie loves Dylan
Thank you, its SO obvious...from how she's always instigating & starting fights with him. She's helga without a unibrow & if helga lived with Arnold. They're just an "incest-y" family, which carl & liam are gonna have to get over the fact they married into one. Everyone of her (ellie's) boyfriends is a mirror opposite of dylan - she's running. She has No idea how to internally address/deal with the fact she wants to screw her brother. She probably liked him at their old house & has been running ever since. The brother-lust/sibling dick-need in this one is strong, based on how hard & passionately she sprints in the opposite direction. Personally, I see the game ending with their grandparents being cousins from way back & telling them, "incest is ok - after all it made you. They accept that, live happily ever after - the end. I mean, far too many members of this family like each other & want to bone each other, consequences that follow be damned (tv rules irrelevant of course/even nerds are hot - this whole family is) for that to be just "coincidence".:sneaky::cool:
 
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Thank you, its SO obvious...from how she's always instigating & starting fights with him. She's helga without a unibrow & if helga lived with Arnold. They're just an "incest-y" family, which carl & liam are gonna have to get over the fact they married into one. Everyone of her (ellie's) boyfriends is a mirror opposite of dylan - she's running. She has No idea how to internally address/deal with the fact she wants to screw her brother. She probably liked him at their old house & has been running ever since. The brother-lust/sibling dick-need in this one is strong, based on how hard & passionately she sprints in the opposite direction. Personally, I see the game ending with their grandparents being cousins from way back & telling them, "incest is ok - after all it made you. They accept that, live happily ever after - the end. I mean, far too many members of this family like each other & want to bone each other, consequences that follow be damned (tv rules irrelevant of course/even nerds are hot - this whole family is) for that to be just "coincidence".:sneaky::cool:
Times we've seen real (Subconscious) ellie, exhibit A) Dylan's new haircut, exhibit B) Shower walk-in -she secretly relished seeing his dick C) Beach Viagra - she just wanted to make him hard publically & be seen doing so without being outed as a brother fucker. Next best thing right?? Seeing him in the shower - she's thought of nothing else, since & was "dripping" @ the beach. Real ellie wants to tell people, but she can't - tell her brother most of all. So, it keeps coming out like pranks n weird shit - when he's not even doing anything/giving her any attention (big giveaway btw). Quick foreshadow/honorable mention - lap sitting scene - beginning of game/she wanted him to sit next to her...hence "momma's boy". C) Sophia/Ellie morning shower - quick change of subject when sophia accuses her of "liking" dylan and that he "likes" her (ellie). She didn't know how right she was. D) "mom I'm not a lesbian", all of her boyfriends are perfectly functional & fuck-able...and none of them are her brother, so "real ellie" won't let her fuck them. E) He threw in the ransomware scene in dylan's room, just to seal the deal - for those who still didn't get it.
 
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t3alqdansam

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Whatever the L&P does, we will always be unhappy ...

For example, here many argue that the L&P needs to accept outside help.
But I always have a bunch of questions about this! Just one of them: Are you sure that you will be satisfied with the results of the work of the development team? ;)
I would like to ask those who insist so strongly. :)

Observing all this scream of discontent towards the L&P, I understand that everyone, both adults and young boys, is eager to find out how the plot develops along some of the arcs of the game! Probably, if the L&P published its story, then these complaints would be by orders of magnitude less, but the interest in the game is also less.
I think so, although I, like any other person, can be wrong.
Sure he could pick a chump. Or maybe one of the many artists presenting in Fan Art thread (or equivalents). There are many that are skilled. Oooooh yeah he could ask westpod ha ha ha! How many other productions are teams? AND how many of these do much higher production rates? Oh and it is something from over a century ago. A dude named Henry Ford - division of labor and the production line. OH MY what a thought. Yeah never gonna happen!
 
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2 months x 10 evens = 20 months. How is this better? Disjointed, updates that leave many fans out in the cold, and no faster than before. Yeah the fail is moving to EPIC.
What you've posted reveals the stark truth. I'm guessing that many of us here work, or have worked for organisations, public, private or voluntary, which have been forced or decided for various reasons, to undertake a re-organisation. These, IME, have often been radical & with very mixed results. This also goes for one-person operations, especially those small concerns impacted by world events over the last couple of years.

What we're going to see over the next few months should make things clearer but it is no criticism of L&P to "suggest" politely that he considers such a rethink. Now would be the time, with the decision to move to event-based updates having already been made. One person taking the decisions about the future of their business avoids internal strife. Again, I don't believe it presumptuous of members of this assembled, interested company to suggest that the Dev might think over some of the suggestions found in this thread, rather than rejecting them outright, because I believe the current practice will militate against AWAM's long-term (30 more years...really!!), viability & survival.

I submit that the majority of the fans here don't want this VN to fail &/or disappear but rather to succeed & become the greatest game in the 3D pantheon.

Corporate statement over!
 
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