VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[PietruccioTheHilander]

can I send your reply by mail directly to L&P in my name?

indeed, I'm willing to spend $ 1 to write it to him directly on the patreon page

 

[palmtrees89]

Goddamn! This special something got me especially hyped. He even set up another special rig and contacted a special developer for this very special task!

If it were about animations, there'd be no reason for the development of the game to stop for an unknown amount of time, as L&P's new rig could render the animations, and he could simply use his main rig to continue working on the scene creation. Especially since this other developer is apparently managing this "special" task. That's the whole point of having a 2nd rig for animations, so you can continue working on renders.

A vacation on the Bahamas sounds more reasonable. And the way this sad excuse of a Patreon post was written makes me think that he was probably in a hurry on his way to the airport so he wouldn't miss his first-class flight paid by these poor souls on his Patreon page. L&P's very special Christmas present to his loyal patrons - A bunch of "special" .

 

[t3alqdansam]

You've nailed it. If I were to summarize this announcement in GIF form it would be:


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There is nothing of substance that is positive in this announcement. It is my belief that he didn't say anything because he doesn't have anything to say. The only thing of substance that he had to say was that there would be a delay on the next update, and then he masked it with vague bullshit.

Fine, few of us here support him on Patreon any longer, so maybe we don't deserve an answer. But why on Earth wouldn't you throw your Patrons a bone and give them something specific? If it's animations, great, tell them. It isn't like he'd be the first to do animations, so I don't see why you'd keep it a secret. If you're partnering with someone; great, tell them. Most of his patrons would be pleased to hear he was building a team. If this second computer will (somehow) make development easier and faster; great, tell them.

But he said nothing.

He's letting everyone twist in the wind and fill in the gaps for him. He keeps everything vague so that he can't be held accountable. This behavior is unethical and shady. I'm not upset about the delay. Who cares? I don't think any of us held out any real hope that the next update would arrive quickly. What I'm upset about is the utter arrogance and unethical behavior to not tell your patrons why you're delaying the next release. These are people who support you through thick and thin, and you couldn't be bothered to give them any specifics?

The ONLY conclusion I can take away from this is that he has nothing. For one reason or another development of the next update is going slow and he's throwing out another excuse. Maybe there is a second computer, and maybe he's trying to build it with nano machines and alien tech, but he had an obligation to his patrons to tell them his plan; and he couldn't do it. He danced around the topic, said nothing, couched it all as a positive, and then slunk back into the darkness.

I don't believe he has a viable reason for needing this second computer. I don't believe there was any reason to divert resources away from the game at this time. I don't believe that this is the type of announcement that should be cloaked in secrecy in order to maintain a surprise. In short, I don't believe he's acting in good faith.

Best case scenario, he's working on something big, know what he should have done? He should have said nothing for now. He should have waited until he had all the details lined up and then come out and made an announcement. Instead, he made an announcement today for nothing. In the short term it only sews confusion and raises questions, and in the long-term if it doesn't work out it will expose him to criticisms that he wasted time on a failed effort.

But I don't believe in that best case scenario. Instead, I believe he's pursuing another vanity project that will make him happy and do nothing to improvement development time or the quality of the game. I'll even put some skin in the game. I'll bet a profile pic declaring my eternal undying love for L&P if he announces something worth a damn by January 2nd. I'll eat my words and even join his Patreon at the base level for one month. But that announcement has to come with some sort of tangible result- some sort of deliverable product that proves his efforts are working. I can be patient, but it can't be something like "Hey everyone, it's January 2nd, my new computer is going to use advanced AI to create art. It should be ready to run by the end of the year! I guess GingerSweetGirl has to change her profile pic!"

I'm sorry for my rant, I'm just super frustrated with what I see as poor behavior from a developer towards his patrons. I only ran a small patreon page for a short while, and I would never have dreamed of jerking my patrons around like this.

The only reason I can see for the second computer is he wants to control his assets. I.e. the assistant/associate is nearby in the RW and will only work on said computer at his crib or an office. So, no release of assets. Animations as many have said are already out there, nothing new and really not the issue he is facing. Meh.

If I wanted to be true negative I would be saying the 'delay' is cover for him taking off over the holidays. Yes, this could be real bad. If he starts popping in animations and production is still slow as it is then the BS flags will start rising up the flagpoles. He needs to be aiming at a goal of 3 or more PDs per year. That would still put the end in 6-7 years. A 10 year VN yeah....

On a separate note I would require he prove he is doing something, not just announce, before making a deal with this devil. Just a thought GingerSweetGirl.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

The only reason I can see for the second computer is he wants to control his assets. I.e. the assistant/associate is nearby in the RW and will only work on said computer at his crib or an office. So, no release of assets. Animations as many have said are already out there, nothing new and really not the issue he is facing. Meh.

If I wanted to be true negative I would be saying the 'delay' is cover for him taking off over the holidays. Yes, this could be real bad. If he starts popping in animations and production is still slow as it is then the BS flags will start rising up the flagpoles. He needs to be aiming at a goal of 3 or more PDs per year. That would still put the end in 6-7 years. A 10 year VN yeah....

On a separate note I would require he prove he is doing something, not just announce, before making a deal with this devil. Just a thought GingerSweetGirl.

Like I said, I'd need to see proof in the form of delivery. I wouldn't waste $1 or a profile pic without proof

 

[nexer]

What can I say, very good news. Thanks KillJoys.
Second PC, OK, but that "special" narrows down the options a bit. As has been said here before, working with a "special dev" can bring more animation to the game.
But what's more interesting is the second PC. A top one. He must therefore move to Germany or to another city if he is German .
Moving involves costs and what scenario do I see possible: L&P provides "the beast" and the collaborator will work with it. I would bet for a split schedule, half for AWAM half for the own game of this "special dev". As a result we can see animations, not too much missed so far , but also DLC.

 

[MaliPizdek]

i hope he is doing real animations this time and not that slide show shit...
1080p 60fps ones or we riot!

 

[Alley_Cat]

Oh, I realise others also suggested this.

Btw, wasn't he going to release the schedule for day 14?

Looking forward to the release of the day 14 events, since they are the next scheduled appearance of Ellie and Patricia

 

[VanDarkBalls]

i hope he is doing real animations this time and not that slide show shit...
1080p 60fps ones or we riot!

Now he will use Euphoria

 

[oshikuru]

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Seems that my estimate of 2 full playing days before august 2024 is on point

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

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can your friend post patreon replies?

 

[AchedCroissant]

Goddamn! This special something got me especially hyped. He even set up another special rig and contacted a special developer for this very special task!

If it were about animations, there'd be no reason for the development of the game to stop for an unknown amount of time, as L&P's new rig could render the animations, and he could simply use his main rig to continue working on the scene creation. Especially since this other developer is apparently managing this "special" task. That's the whole point of having a 2nd rig for animations, so you can continue working on renders.

A vacation on the Bahamas sounds more reasonable. And the way this sad excuse of a Patreon post was written makes me think that he was probably in a hurry on his way to the airport so he wouldn't miss his first-class flight paid by these poor souls on his Patreon page. L&P's very special Christmas present to his loyal patrons - A bunch of "special" .

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[sophpa]

L&P start working on morning update of new playable day and noticed that development goes too fast that he expected. What to do?...Yes! Announce of something "very promising" and froze development for half a year. Terrific, Mr. L&P.

 

[oshikuru]

L&P start working on morning update of new playable day and noticed that development goes too fast that he expected. What to do?...Yes! Announce of something "very promising" and froze development for half a year. Terrific, Mr. L&P.

Technically he started 1/3 of the morning update. Because he split updates into events. Meaning nine or ten updates per playable day.

 

[hzjujk]

When I first read the article by L&P I thought: "Bad marketing!". Should it really be animations that he would like to add then this innovation is of no importance to me. As I am playing BeingADIK again, I have noticed that animated sex scenes don't give me anything and, on the contrary, tend to hinder my head cinema. But I admit that a well-animated change of gaze, for example, certainly contributes to the story. And that's where we come to the narrative style. I think this quality has decreased since the last update. Both when writing the dialogues and as a result, in contrast to earlier publications, L&P leads through many dialogues with just a few pictures and thereby makes the whole thing look even more bumpy by dispensing with changeable poses and facial expressions. I know that this doesn't bother a lot of people here, but that made up part of the game's charm. And here, for my part, I would like that more emphasis is placed on the development of the story and that time is invested.
As for his announcements in his post, I don't think he's lying (and vacationing in the Bahamas). I appreciate the honesty of the developer in announcing the delays and justifying them (and putting up with the shit storm). And yet I am frustrated about how unclear these statements are and the time lag for the next publication. That he announces that the innovations are worth waiting for is just not enough. Although he made this statement with the 3rd Aiden task and it turned out to be true for me, he shouldn't make it easy for himself and believe a promise of new innovations will keep the frustration factor small.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.155.

35% - 30%
0% - 0%

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

So we're supposed to believe this guy that wouldn't find a dev "of his level" anywhere on the entire internet (he couldnt even find a translator) now suddendly either found a "special dev" that lives near him or a "special dev" that is available to travel to his house to work on his new special PC?

What are you guys smoking?

 

[hzjujk]

So we're supposed to believe this guy that wouldn't find a dev "of his level" anywhere on the entire internet (he couldnt even find a translator) now suddendly either found a "special dev" that lives near him or a "special dev" that is available to travel to his house to work on his new special PC?

What are you guys smoking?

first class shit!

 

[t3alqdansam]

When I first read the article by L&P I thought: "Bad marketing!". Should it really be animations that he would like to add then this innovation is of no importance to me. As I am playing BeingADIK again, I have noticed that animated sex scenes don't give me anything and, on the contrary, tend to hinder my head cinema. But I admit that a well-animated change of gaze, for example, certainly contributes to the story. And that's where we come to the narrative style. I think this quality has decreased since the last update. Both when writing the dialogues and as a result, in contrast to earlier publications, L&P leads through many dialogues with just a few pictures and thereby makes the whole thing look even more bumpy by dispensing with changeable poses and facial expressions. I know that this doesn't bother a lot of people here, but that made up part of the game's charm. And here, for my part, I would like that more emphasis is placed on the development of the story and that time is invested.
As for his announcements in his post, I don't think he's lying (and vacationing in the Bahamas). I appreciate the honesty of the developer in announcing the delays and justifying them (and putting up with the shit storm). And yet I am frustrated about how unclear these statements are and the time lag for the next publication. That he announces that the innovations are worth waiting for is just not enough. Although he made this statement with the 3rd Aiden task and it turned out to be true for me, he shouldn't make it easy for himself and believe a promise of new innovations will keep the frustration factor small.

I agree in the writing analysis. As I cogitated upon this ongoing discussion and considered what he wrote I thought 'Maybe the Special Dev is more writing focused'.
If his new assistant, associate, partner is a writer this could actually have a very positive impact. The speed will increase some but, the overall work will hopefully gain a significant boost in quality. This would not require any time off from actual work and his rig construction could be done in those 2-3 hours he has dropped from a normal workday. A week at most to complete that project. Then he can get back to 5-6 hours as he recently posted. This could be the "Special" he is promoting.

So now we all wait for the 'pudding' to reveal.

Unfortunately for me, I am fairly convinced of some of the previous points on this especially by GingerSweetGirl .

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

Why would a writer need a special pc?

 

[sophpa]

"Worth to wait" will be simple handjob animation with Aiden. I don`t expect anything from L&P after the last update