VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[armion82]

I've made my peace with the fact that there's nothing we can say that influences L&P at all. The only thing that influences L&P are his patrons, or if there's such incredibly blowback that people report his game.

At this point L&P is too big on Patreon for even his patrons to have much influence. If we use someone like Icstor as an example, once you reach a certain size you can do absolutely anything and the support never drops. I'm not saying L&P is the same as Icstor, because he absolutely isn't, but if a scam artist like Icstor can keep growing despite putting out literally nothing of substance for over two years, then L&P will never see his numbers decline. He may not be as big as Icstor, but he's big enough that it doesn't matter. His Patreon is now a self sustaining machine that can withstand bad updates and even infrequent updates.

Following your words L&P is not that far away from ICSTOR.
After all we get only 2 updates for the full year-2021, that covered only 2/3 of one game day.

Next update Sophia becomes a nun - a Sister of the Eternally Dry Vaginas. Her pussy so dry the sand inside might make a pearl. Her poor husband leaves her for a man as he is obviously gay as a jay bird. Her kids are so sexually frustrated they go all in incest--- OMFG STOP THIS IS A NO SEX GAME! Son becomes a monk and sis another nun. Nuns kick Sophia out as she is too anti-sex even for them.

Please don't insult nuns.Sophia is not even close to a nun.
https://f95zone.to/threads/treasure-of-nadia-v1-0112-nlt-media.38582/page-2300#post-7164365

Hetero sex scene could mean anything from foreplay to sexual intercourse as L&P statement is vague on this.

No way to get just 2 HJ until day 20.After all there should be the final with Bennett way before that.Not to mention I doubt Logan will wait for day 20 before having sex with Ellie.After all day 16 should be the day with at least 4 events with Ellie.

 

[Ruby Tuesday]

I would argue the complete opposite. Since they are a once time deal they can have fun in an foursome, Orgy etc because there are NO consequences. Other would be with Dylan or SAM where the stakes of consequences are much much higher.

This makes perfect sense. An empty, multi-room museum complex also offers plenty of opportunity for Sophia and Patricia to pair off with each selected partner and get up to all kinds of mischief, including spying on each other, swopping partners, things they might not dare do otherwise. All without embarrassing consequences at a sequence of the game's progress when Sophia's fidelity and moral restraint would have been tested to the limit, or by then broken altogether. Patricia, easily the more adventurous of the two, has already introduced the idea of "back to college" role-play scenario for both sisters, an appealing idea Sophia has already enjoyed recently with Sam's boy-rock star status. I think L&P is saving this event for a special performance, but waiting for it is another matter...

 

[Dan5k74]

A gif(t) for lockerxx

Spoiler: A month of AWAM in a few seconds

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Thanks to all those who, like you, during the year that has just ended, have contributed to the discussion on this game with regular updates, funny comments, stimulating hypotheses, constructive criticism, recurring memes or any other ideas aimed at keeping this thread alive and interesting.

 

[sophpa]

Está actualizado la traducción?

this cover hotter than english version!

 

[Asprt]

Figure size Sophia
Bra cup
Waist
Hip

 

[t3alqdansam]

Figure size Sophia
Bra cup
Waist
Hip

Bra cup - Variable
Waist - perfect
Hip - perfect

Any other questions?

 

[ancienregimele]

Figure size Sophia
Bra cup
Waist
Hip

Bra cup....variable, started at 36B but see my earlier posts. It's a 'sensitive area'
Waist....24 or 25
Hip....36

These are just estimates

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I only see Dylan, Ellie, Patricia, Sam as actual important characters. At most Aiden is joining the ranks. Other than that all others are more or less of equal importance.

However how broad is L&P's definition of important characters is not known.

I would probably add to those four Alyssa and Aiden, based in the popularity across several polls and the number of scenes they have had across the story.

 

[Bane71]

Reflecting on the event that should take place in the museum, I came to the conclusion that this event promises to be quite big, so we can expect that it will also be interesting and very hot.
Most likely, Patricia will be more active. But Sophia, watching her sister's actions, will be aroused by the circumstances and the lustful looks of the boys. At first it will be only flirting and talking, but Patricia will not stop there. As a result, the Asian boy will receive a prize from Sophia, but what it will be, I cannot say with certainty. Probably there can be kisses, touches, but I don't expect a blowjob or handmade from Sophia.
Although this will already be the 14th in-game day, maybe there will be something hotter ...

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I would argue the complete opposite. Since they are a once time deal they can have fun in an foursome, Orgy etc because there are NO consequences. Other would be with Dylan or SAM where the stakes of consequences are much much higher.

You are missing or choosing to forget Patricia's words about her marriage to Carl. Someone with photographic memory or acess to the code will be able to give you the exact quote. But in simple terms Patricia is able to fool around so long as Carl is the only one that fucks her. Hence why Patricia is a complete flirtatious tease and she could quite easily be up for playing around with the museum boys. And why I think at some point Patricia will fuck Sophia. But she won't participate in an orgy.

Now Sophia has opened up and become much freer around sexual matters over the last two weeks. But she has not YET reached the tipping point where she will cheat on Liam. But she is getting far closer to sexual acts by which I mean either having her pussy fingered or giving a hand job. I expect both of these to happen before she gives a blow job.

So no, no orgy is going to happen at the museum with either Patricia or Sophia. Now hopefully it could yet be quite a hot encounter nonetheless as the two sisters might be increasingly flirtatious with each other, giving the boys a show, and I could also see them getting quite competitive teasing the museum boys up to and including handjobs. But not currently do I expect things to go much further. Sophia might see Patricia giving a blowjob and that might arouse Sophia and tempt her to try this in a future event with one of the main characters.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Reflecting on the event that should take place in the museum, I came to the conclusion that this event promises to be quite big, so we can expect that it will also be interesting and very hot.
Most likely, Patricia will be more active. But Sophia, watching her sister's actions, will be aroused by the circumstances and the lustful looks of the boys. At first it will be only flirting and talking, but Patricia will not stop there. As a result, the Asian boy will receive a prize from Sophia, but what it will be, I cannot say with certainty. Probably there can be kisses, touches, but I don't expect a blowjob or handmade from Sophia.
Although this will already be the 14th in-game day, maybe there will be something hotter ...

I agree that Patricia will go slightly further than Sophia and thus tempt and arouse Sophia.

In term of your last point, on Playable Day 12 we had a seeming ramp up of corruption, which I hope will continue over the next two PD, and I can see Sophia giving a least a handjob by then.

 

[naughtynafz]

There is a very large difference between that and 3-4 FUCKING years with no non-husband sex. It would be like saying someone who complained their Amazon package took 2 years to arrive was like "Oh, it should have come the next day!" Have some sense. This is 100% bullshit no sex content. No sex content by like the 4th release is bad. 3-4 FUCKING YEARS IN is insane and anyone who would still patron belongs in the loony bin. It's pretty much nun simulator at this point.

not everyone wants meaningless sex scenes in the game. to me if there is a choice between (i) aiden bangs sophia in a dark alley while she is unconscious (ii) aiden makes sophia show her bare pussy to all students of class...... I will definitely choose no (ii) without any hesitation. i know L&P is slow, but its nothing to do with sex scenes. it can be erotic without sex scenes with strangers.

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

Regarding the museum dudes, given that they will only show up once Sophia is past the point of no return in terms of cheating, we should expect her to be less picky with what she choses to do with them.

It wouldn't make sense for Sophia to rack up 500 filthy points, jack off 5 people, have sex with other 2, blow another 3 etc and then when she gets to the museum "oh no I cant, Im married" is the only option.

 

[Bane71]

You are missing or choosing to forget Patricia's words about her marriage to Carl. Someone with photographic memory or acess to the code will be able to give you the exact quote. But in simple terms Patricia is able to fool around so long as Carl is the only one that fucks her. Hence why Patricia is a complete flirtatious tease and she could quite easily be up for playing around with the museum boys. And why I think at some point Patricia will fuck Sophia. But she won't participate in an orgy.

Now Sophia has opened up and become much freer around sexual matters over the last two weeks. But she has not YET reached the tipping point where she will cheat on Liam. But she is getting far closer to sexual acts by which I mean either having her pussy fingered or giving a hand job. I expect both of these to happen before she gives a blow job.

So no, no orgy is going to happen at the museum with either Patricia or Sophia. Now hopefully it could yet be quite a hot encounter nonetheless as the two sisters might be increasingly flirtatious with each other, giving the boys a show, and I could also see them getting quite competitive teasing the museum boys up to and including handjobs. But not currently do I expect things to go much further. Sophia might see Patricia giving a blowjob and that might arouse Sophia and tempt her to try this in a future event with one of the main characters.

I agree, but it would be so unfair if one of the boys gets a blowjob from Patricia, and the other from Sophia - no!
I think this argument can serve as a weighty reason for Sophia's handmade work!

 

[hzjujk]

You are missing or choosing to forget Patricia's words about her marriage to Carl. Someone with photographic memory or acess to the code will be able to give you the exact quote. But in simple terms Patricia is able to fool around so long as Carl is the only one that fucks her. Hence why Patricia is a complete flirtatious tease and she could quite easily be up for playing around with the museum boys. And why I think at some point Patricia will fuck Sophia. But she won't participate in an orgy.

Now Sophia has opened up and become much freer around sexual matters over the last two weeks. But she has not YET reached the tipping point where she will cheat on Liam. But she is getting far closer to sexual acts by which I mean either having her pussy fingered or giving a hand job. I expect both of these to happen before she gives a blow job.

So no, no orgy is going to happen at the museum with either Patricia or Sophia. Now hopefully it could yet be quite a hot encounter nonetheless as the two sisters might be increasingly flirtatious with each other, giving the boys a show, and I could also see them getting quite competitive teasing the museum boys up to and including handjobs. But not currently do I expect things to go much further. Sophia might see Patricia giving a blowjob and that might arouse Sophia and tempt her to try this in a future event with one of the main characters.

I think at some point it will be Sophia who carries Patricia away. And let Patricia cross the line. I am convinced of that! The deal with Carl will be broken. And Sophia will be the sucubus.

 

[darji]

You are missing or choosing to forget Patricia's words about her marriage to Carl. Someone with photographic memory or acess to the code will be able to give you the exact quote. But in simple terms Patricia is able to fool around so long as Carl is the only one that fucks her. Hence why Patricia is a complete flirtatious tease and she could quite easily be up for playing around with the museum boys. And why I think at some point Patricia will fuck Sophia. But she won't participate in an orgy.

Now Sophia has opened up and become much freer around sexual matters over the last two weeks. But she has not YET reached the tipping point where she will cheat on Liam. But she is getting far closer to sexual acts by which I mean either having her pussy fingered or giving a hand job. I expect both of these to happen before she gives a blow job.

So no, no orgy is going to happen at the museum with either Patricia or Sophia. Now hopefully it could yet be quite a hot encounter nonetheless as the two sisters might be increasingly flirtatious with each other, giving the boys a show, and I could also see them getting quite competitive teasing the museum boys up to and including handjobs. But not currently do I expect things to go much further. Sophia might see Patricia giving a blowjob and that might arouse Sophia and tempt her to try this in a future event with one of the main characters.

The Point is that if a one night stand or such an encounter there are no stakes or fear of consequences. This would fit her personality. Her going crazy with Patricia and a random guy or more would be much more plausible than she having sex with someone like SAM or Dylan. If you then put on Alcohol or even drugs more can happen as well.

So as far as I can remember Particia said she was also wild in her college life so maybe they will reflect on that and let her go crazy as well. Honestly I do expect some crazy shit in the end and not only vanillia sex or a love Story with Sam.

Some routes look they can go into a very dangerous way. Like her becoming a sexslave, a prostitute etc. And hoenstly I hope we will see something like that in the end. Will it happen tomorrow or the next few game days? NO of course not.

Oh and Patricia will most likely break this rule she had at one point. with Sophia in some kind of scanrio so why not the museum which will not happen anytime soon anyway.

 

[globsis]

I agree, but it would be so unfair if one of the boys gets a blowjob from Patricia, and the other from Sophia - no!
I think this argument can serve as a weighty reason for Sophia's handmade work!

I agree. It would be unfair if Sofia is only an observer.
"Hands, hands! Where are your hands Sofia?!"

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Those two college kids at museum should have featured early on, in the first couple of weeks of the story and then faded away. Unless they featured anywhere else in the story (which I gather they won't appear again after their own planned event), they were a pointless addition to the supporting cast of characters.

There could have been an erotic situation to the two college kids if done right. I often think about the softcore flicks that were made in the 80s where people would often lose their clothes in unexpected ways that often bordered on ridiculous - like a woman catching her dress in a car door as she exits, and then the car drives off ripping her dress completely off like it was made of paper mâché. She then has to deal with getting through public spaces while hiding her nudity.

With the two college boys I picture them showing up to meet with Sophia and Patricia at the museum. They're wearing casual clothing like shorts and nondescript t-shirts hoping for a relaxed time with the women. The museum is only lightly populated, and they progress nonchalantly towards the end of the museum talking about the various paintings, sculptures and exhibits. As they start to make their way back to the exit, the boys suddenly trip on a section of wet floor that wasn't cordoned off and catch their shorts on the edge of a stair railing ripping them in the process. Falling onto the wet floor the combination of the tear and the water quickly rendered their shorts unwearable as they basically fall apart. Of course, the boys don't bother wearing underwear on such a nice warm day and find themselves totally bottomless in a public place. Startled by the whole situation the horrified boys each quickly hide behind one of the women while the women do their best to try and stay in front of them to block anyone from seeing them in their bottomless state. Not before Patricia - and Sophia- get a nice eyeful of what they're packing of course. Currently no one else is close enough to notice the situation, but they realize it would be impossible for them to go the same long way back to the entrance without the boys nudity being noticed. Noticing an elevator nearby the 4 quietly, but quickly, shuffle their way over in the hopes of being able to get in before anyone notices them. The boys both know the elevator is generally only used by those who come in from the underground parking garage used by the museum, but right now it's their only option of being able to get out unseen. They figure they can get down into the garage, hide in a dark corner behind some cars and let the women go out to get their car and come back to pick them up.

Once inside Sophia quickly tries to close the doors, but before she can someone runs up to hold the doors open for his group. Next thing you know a dozen people start filling the elevator and Patricia and Sophia immediately move backwards towards the rear corners pushing the boys with them. Soon the elevator is packed, and the boys are pinned between the walls and the ladies. The group is busy talking amongst themselves of all the exhibits they've seen and barely notice Sophia or Patricia. As the elevator slowly starts to move the large crowd constantly squirms as everyone tries to jockey for space. This causes both women to slightly shift as well and both boys quickly get erections with the constant rubbing of their dresses against their cocks. Patricia particularly starts enjoying the situation and subtly shimmies her ass against the boy behind her wanting to make this an enjoyable encounter he'll never forget. She feels his cock press against her clothed ass and reaches behind her with both hands gently raking his balls with her nails. Sophia glances over and sees what Patricia is doing. Patricia responds with a wicked smile and wink. She's stunned by what she sees and what she feels pressed against her. Frozen with fear the boy behind her, not sure what he should do, grips Sophia's waist to try and stabilize himself. This only stops him from swaying from side to side. The forward thrust he's been going through is now enhanced and soon lust completely overrides his senses as he presses his cock against Sophia's ass forcing the cloth to mold to her ass crack. Before long both boys erupt spraying the backs of both women and trying to muffle their ecstatic cries. Unable to do anything except react Sophia allows the boy his joy while finding the whole experience strangely arousing to her as well.

Eventually the elevator stops, and the group exits quickly followed by the women and boys. With the boys staying hidden the women get their car, come back for the boys to take them home and have a rather embarrassing conversation on the way back with the boys covering themselves in shame. Sophia arrives at their house where the boys are able to enter through the garage. Covering their cocks in embarrassment, the boys quickly exit the car and run into the garage and into the house. Patricia leers after them watching their bare asses bounce from the exertion. As they drive off Patricia turns to Sophia shrugs her shoulders and laughs at the absurdity of it all, while Sophia has her hand over her mouth stunned and conflicted over what she's feeling.

This could all take place during one update. A simple and fun way to show the continuing erosion of Sophia's morals. Of course, more could be added, or subtracted or even amended. It's just one idea of how side characters can be used for Sophia's benefit.

 

[Sabertooth__]

There could have been an erotic situation to the two college kids if done right. I often think about the softcore flicks that were made in the 80s where people would often lose their clothes in unexpected ways that often bordered on ridiculous - like a woman catching her dress in a car door as she exits, and then the car drives off ripping her dress completely off like it was made of paper mâché. She then has to deal with getting through public spaces while hiding her nudity.

With the two college boys I picture them showing up to meet with Sophia and Patricia at the museum. They're wearing casual clothing like shorts and nondescript t-shirts hoping for a relaxed time with the women. The museum is only lightly populated, and they progress nonchalantly towards the end of the museum talking about the various paintings, sculptures and exhibits. As they start to make their way back to the exit, the boys suddenly trip on a section of wet floor that wasn't cordoned off and catch their shorts on the edge of a stair railing ripping them in the process. Falling onto the wet floor the combination of the tear and the water quickly rendered their shorts unwearable as they basically fall apart. Of course, the boys don't bother wearing underwear on such a nice warm day and find themselves totally bottomless in a public place. Startled by the whole situation the horrified boys each quickly hide behind one of the women while the women do their best to try and stay in front of them to block anyone from seeing them in their bottomless state. Not before Patricia - and Sophia- get a nice eyeful of what they're packing of course. Currently no one else is close enough to notice the situation, but they realize it would be impossible for them to go the same long way back to the entrance without the boys nudity being noticed. Noticing an elevator nearby the 4 quietly, but quickly, shuffle their way over in the hopes of being able to get in before anyone notices them. The boys both know the elevator is generally only used by those who come in from the underground parking garage used by the museum, but right now it's their only option of being able to get out unseen. They figure they can get down into the garage, hide in a dark corner behind some cars and let the women go out to get their car and come back to pick them up.

Once inside Sophia quickly tries to close the doors, but before she can someone runs up to hold the doors open for his group. Next thing you know a dozen people start filling the elevator and Patricia and Sophia immediately move backwards towards the rear corners pushing the boys with them. Soon the elevator is packed, and the boys are pinned between the walls and the ladies. The group is busy talking amongst themselves of all the exhibits they've seen and barely notice Sophia or Patricia. As the elevator slowly starts to move the large crowd constantly squirms as everyone tries to jockey for space. This causes both women to slightly shift as well and both boys quickly get erections with the constant rubbing of their dresses against their cocks. Patricia particularly starts enjoying the situation and subtly shimmies her ass against the boy behind her wanting to make this an enjoyable encounter he'll never forget. She feels his cock press against her clothed ass and reaches behind her with both hands gently raking his balls with her nails. Sophia glances over and sees what Patricia is doing. Patricia responds with a wicked smile and wink. She's stunned by what she sees and what she feels pressed against her. Frozen with fear the boy behind her, not sure what he should do, grips Sophia's waist to try and stabilize himself. This only stops him from swaying from side to side. The forward thrust he's been going through is now enhanced and soon lust completely overrides his senses as he presses his cock against Sophia's ass forcing the cloth to mold to her ass crack. Before long both boys erupt spraying the backs of both women and trying to muffle their ecstatic cries. Unable to do anything except react Sophia allows the boy his joy while finding the whole experience strangely arousing to her as well.

Eventually the elevator stops, and the group exits quickly followed by the women and boys. With the boys staying hidden the women get their car, come back for the boys to take them home and have a rather embarrassing conversation on the way back with the boys covering themselves in shame. Sophia arrives at their house where the boys are able to enter through the garage. Covering their cocks in embarrassment, the boys quickly exit the car and run into the garage and into the house. Patricia leers after them watching their bare asses bounce from the exertion. As they drive off Patricia turns to Sophia shrugs her shoulders and laughs at the absurdity of it all, while Sophia has her hand over her mouth stunned and conflicted over what she's feeling.

This could all take place during one update. A simple and fun way to show the continuing erosion of Sophia's morals. Of course, more could be added, or subtracted or even amended. It's just one idea of how side characters can be used for Sophia's benefit.

Just to let you know a little info that you forgot. Which is primarily the base of your scene.

There is going to be no one else at the museum except them. The boys are going to show the museum to the sisters during off hours. They have connections and hence can go in the museum aside from visiting hours and are taking the sisters for a private show.

 

[oshikuru]

The museum scene might be good as I enjoy history. But just thinking about those artefacts, paintings, armours.... it's going to take a lot of renders to make. I wouldn't be surprised if the development of it stagnates a bit further.