VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Insys]

It's all down to personal opinion but this game has far better renders..

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Hello.

Does anybody know which G8F model this character was based on?

Much obliged.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I don't think that the lighting is totally basic as you said, it's what that shot requires to have a natural look, it's daylight where everything is illuminated. Still you can see some natural contrast in her face, her left side is more illuminated than her right one because the light comes from the window, not too much because is daylight.

In this other angle you can appreciate the lighting scheme more, which isn't totally basic and it contains the blinds
weft over her skin, given us a pleasant image, something that not many devs plays with.

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Maybe in a night shot you can appreciate the effort of that dev better:

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By the way, that dev doesn't use color filters, nor flares, it's clearly that he prefers a natural look, not too photoshopped.

When one of his renders has a fancy color it's because that color is given by the lights of the location:

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Still I think he could improve in terms of continuity, in the same scene some shots look more illuminated than others and sometimes the lighting could look simple in some of them.

I wouldn't call these bad renders. But there is nothing about them that i find out of the ordinary. The lighting if compared to any of L&P's renders seems very basic and it there just because it should be and not to enhance the visual quality. All of L&P's renders have an atmosphere to them whereas here we see quite a bit of inconsistency in that regard. A major part if the above renders feels like it is all the programs work and not that the dev meticulously focused on them. Not using Photoshop could also mean the person either doesn't know PS and doesn't intend to learn or just wants to save time. Because it is a highly renowned fact that Photoshop can be used to greatly enhance renders.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I don't follow you, what do you mean by basic render? That sounds like renders with lack of effort.

Explain me why this render

is supposedly more basic than this one. (similar shot, similar location)

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I didn't want to compare but it seems that you used the term basic to underestimate the work of that dev.

Sorry but these two renders are very different from each other. The above render of that dev relies entirely on the models face ( which as mentioned above is a G8 model ) and not on the lighting effects. Add to that you chose one of the worst renders of the entire scene with Sam to compare. Look at this render. And we all know we can pick over a 100 renders in any 200+ render scene which looks great purely because of the effort in lighting posing and expressions.

 

[DIRTY MIND]

I have finished the 0.170v update. my thoughts on 0.170v. I am a fan of Sam. In fact, I don't like the shota and blackmail thing in a game with such a good story based on a novel. Sophia and pigmy/ Dylan compared the storyline to Shota kids, Sophia and shota kids storyline is very erotic and the story is well written by L&P. Mainly shota route has progressed very fast with Sophia.

I didn't like this stuff but I really enjoyed the stuff the shota kids progressed faster than that little shitt/Frodo/Dylan. I'd like to see Pigmy/Dylan fall behind everyone without making any progress with Sophia. Dylan is not a worthy character to compete with Sam in the story. I don't like that little shitt Dylan character. He is the dangerous man in the Parker's family.

The Shota children's make great progress with Sophia in just the 3rd meeting.
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[Chucked_Sandwich]

L&P's posing is probably some of the very best. when you look at the 2 pics side by side, the other one looks...more photo realistic, however I find that these other devs struggle with pose, the characters look wooden and stock.

 

[SophiaLovesDylan]

I have finished the 0.170v update. my thoughts on 0.170v. I am a fan of Sam. In fact, I don't like the shota and blackmail thing in a game with such a good story based on a novel. Sophia and pigmy/ Dylan compared the storyline to Shota kids, Sophia and shota kids storyline is very erotic and the story is well written by L&P. Mainly shota route has progressed very fast with Sophia.

I didn't like this stuff but I really enjoyed the stuff the shota kids progressed faster than that little shitt/Frodo/Dylan. I'd like to see Pigmy/Dylan fall behind everyone without making any progress with Sophia. Dylan is not a worthy character to compete with Sam in the story. I don't like that little shitt Dylan character. He is the dangerous man in the Parker's family.

The Shota children's make great progress with Sophia in just the 3rd meeting.
First handjob

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Spoiler: shota kids progress

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Hottest Scenes looser/ Pigmy Dylan Has Achieved with Sophia in 12 PDs.

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In just three events the kids get more action than any other characters combined throughout the entire game. Also, I don't like that those kids made more progress with Sophia before my boy Sam.

I didn't like this stuff but I really enjoyed the stuff the shota kids progressed faster than that little shitt/Frodo/Dylan. I'd like to see Pigmy/Dylan fall behind everyone without making any progress with Sophia. Dylan is not a worthy character to compete with Sam in the story. I don't like that little shitt Dylan character. He is the dangerous man in the Parker's family.

I didn't like that those 3 kids made much progress with Sophia before my boy Sam but I had no problem with any of the characters making progress with Sophia before that looser Dylan. All in all, nothing new stuff for Frodo Dylan should happen with Sophia in his storyline.

 

[McZoy]

It's all down to personal opinion but this game has far better renders..

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Hi, "Heir apparent" has perfect renders but it is a very small abandoned game. You can not compare it with AWAM. L&P is a milker but delivers a product for many years now that you can have it for free. He does not belong to all those scammers who present a game followed by 1-3 updates gradually smaller and with prolonged intervals between them. All these accompanied with excuses and lies and at the end the abandoned tag.

 

[MaliPizdek]

first teaser with Sam when??

 

[SophiaLovesDylan]

My boy Sam and Sophia event seems to be the last hot and spicy event of the day (of this PD). Looks like there won't be any hot events for the next 1 year after Sam's event.

After Sam's event we can't see Sophia getting any corruptions for the next 1 year. And Sophia seems to miss Sam a lot.

 

[Sabertooth__]

With all the respect Sam looks Asian in that pic.

Jokes aside, I don't want to underestimate L&P, my point is that you don't need to underestimate someone's work, calling it basic, to praise someone else.

Look, talking about posing and lighting, I haven't seen L&P doing some artistic shot like this one

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Her silhouette with that lighting and that pose could be perfectly an artistic photo

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That frame even reminds me of movies like Sin City, which is full of backlighting and sexy girls.

I know that L&P put a lot of effort in expressions, more than that dev, I give you that.

Firstly L&P has not done a lot of renders under the open night sky. So the comparison is pretty limited. Sophia also doesn't walk around naked in the open so there is no render. So if you want a true fair comparison use the daylight renders here.

Now i have already said that those renders aren't bad but the lighting is way too basic. All these renders that you have been showing only have had one thing look good about them and that is the main model. The model even in this render stands out and does not actually look like it is blended with the surrounding environment. Sophia, or rather all characters on the game actually blend in with the environment. The lighting is very simple here, which is basically just that light near the door, which is so far away yet so strong that it reaches all the way. Also where is the light on the models back coming from to give that effect. The real picture that you posted clearly shows that the body is not illuminated on the side away from the light.

Also the fact that just one light source is so strong that lights up the entire place is quite bizarre. If you look back at the Sam Sophia scene. There are multiple sources of light in the scene and yet when we see far into the background it is dark and looks like a real environment and not blatantly a computer generated one

Spoiler: Jacuzzi scene

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Regarding regarding posing, i wouldn't mind posting renders from Sophia's class or the gang event. Every character is posed differently. Even when there are more than 10 in a scene.

The lighting effect you showed earlier through the grill. Here's how L&P did it and it looks so much real. The shadow effects in the entire room is so good and feels real. This is kind of background we can call engaging and not as jarring.

Spoiler: Nathalie

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There aren't enough renders from the night to show what L&P can do with his art right now. Inside the biker club too however the lighting is complex and looks great. But when it comes to day time. I can say with utmost certainty that L&P's renders actually are on a much higher level. Again don't get me wrong. The other dev is not bad but the difference in level of skill is pretty obvious visually.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

first teaser with Sam when??

tomorrow

 

[SophiaLovesDylan]

first teaser with Sam when??

I am eagerly waiting for the first hot teaser with Sam.

Looks like we can see the first teaser in within 2 days.

 

[DIRTY MIND]

didn't like that those 3 kids made much progress with Sophia before my boy Sam but I had no problem with any of the characters making progress with Sophia before that looser Dylan. All in all, nothing new stuff for Frodo Dylan should happen with Sophia in his storyline.

 

[DIRTY MIND]

My boy Sam and Sophia event seems to be the last hot and spicy event of the day (of this PD). Looks like there won't be any hot events for the next 1 year after Sam's event.

After Sam's event we can't see Sophia getting any corruptions for the next 1 year. And Sophia seems to miss Sam a lot.

I think Sophia's corruptions will break for the next 1 year and she will catch up again at Ellie and Sam's event on the morning of PD 14.

That little shitt pigmy Dylan

 

[Sadowdark]

I have finished the 0.170v update. my thoughts on 0.170v. I am a fan of Sam. In fact, I don't like the shota and blackmail thing in a game with such a good story based on a novel. Sophia and pigmy/ Dylan compared the storyline to Shota kids, Sophia and shota kids storyline is very erotic and the story is well written by L&P. Mainly shota route has progressed very fast with Sophia.

I didn't like this stuff but I really enjoyed the stuff the shota kids progressed faster than that little shitt/Frodo/Dylan. I'd like to see Pigmy/Dylan fall behind everyone without making any progress with Sophia. Dylan is not a worthy character to compete with Sam in the story. I don't like that little shitt Dylan character. He is the dangerous man in the Parker's family.

The Shota children's make great progress with Sophia in just the 3rd meeting.
First handjob
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Spoiler: shota kids progress

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Hottest Scenes looser/ Pigmy Dylan Has Achieved with Sophia in 12 PDs.

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Using the spoiler tag, buddy, doesn't apply to you?

 

[globsis]

With all the respect Sam looks Asian in that pic.

Jokes aside, I don't want to underestimate L&P, my point is that you don't need to underestimate someone's work, calling it basic, to praise someone else.

Look, talking about posing and lighting, I haven't seen L&P doing some artistic shot like this one

View attachment 2018163

Her silhouette with that lighting and that pose could be perfectly an artistic photo

View attachment 2018170 View attachment 2018201

That frame even reminds me of movies like Sin City, which is full of backlighting and sexy girls.

I know that L&P put a lot of effort in expressions, more than that dev, I give you that.

Firstly L&P has not done a lot of renders under the open night sky. So the comparison is pretty limited. Sophia also doesn't walk around naked in the open so there is no render. So if you want a true fair comparison use the daylight renders here.

Now i have already said that those renders aren't bad but the lighting is way too basic. All these renders that you have been showing only have had one thing look good about them and that is the main model. The model even in this render stands out and does not actually look like it is blended with the surrounding environment. Sophia, or rather all characters on the game actually blend in with the environment. The lighting is very simple here, which is basically just that light near the door, which is so far away yet so strong that it reaches all the way. Also where is the light on the models back coming from to give that effect. The real picture that you posted clearly shows that the body is not illuminated on the side away from the light.

Also the fact that just one light source is so strong that lights up the entire place is quite bizarre. If you look back at the Sam Sophia scene. There are multiple sources of light in the scene and yet when we see far into the background it is dark and looks like a real environment and not blatantly a computer generated one

Spoiler: Jacuzzi scene

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Regarding regarding posing, i wouldn't mind posting renders from Sophia's class or the gang event. Every character is posed differently. Even when there are more than 10 in a scene.

The lighting effect you showed earlier through the grill. Here's how L&P did it and it looks so much real. The shadow effects in the entire room is so good and feels real. This is kind of background we can call engaging and not as jarring.

Spoiler: Nathalie

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There aren't enough renders from the night to show what L&P can do with his art right now. Inside the biker club too however the lighting is complex and looks great. But when it comes to day time. I can say with utmost certainty that L&P's renders actually are on a much higher level. Again don't get me wrong. The other dev is not bad but the difference in level of skill is pretty obvious visually.

it is very interesting to read your posts. I agree with both of you (personally I like AWAM).
you both judge from a technical point of view - do not forget - the main thing is the client. if the game is abandoned, it is most likely not a very good game. therefore, at the moment AWAM turns out to be the best game and the developer is better.
P.S. hiring a person who created a not-quite-successful game is not too good.

 

[Sadowdark]

first teaser with Sam when??

Maybe in two weeks?

 

[S.t.s]

Hello, why doesn't anyone make a persian translation for these games?

 

[MaliPizdek]

how far can Sam go with Sophia in the new update?
fondling and kissing naked breasts?
touching and maybe fingering her pussy like Dylan? or maybe even licking?
is there any chance she will hold his pee pee or maybe BJ?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Hello, why doesn't anyone make a persian translation for these games?

Because that would require someone with a high command of both Persian and English, and an interest in this game. That just hasn't happened that we're aware of. It probably wouldn't be difficult, but I don't know enough about Persian orthography.

I did help someone start a translation in Hindi using that alphabet, but since I don't speak it, I couldn't do the translation.