VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Rome5555555]

Just few weeks ago some people said that mid Jan would be the release date. People doesn´t learn xD

What are you, the developers are also people and decided to take a break, the rest dragged on a little)

 

[oblivion2047]

https://f95zone.to/posts/8120982/

thank you for link

 

[Bishop Robert]

Did she forget her bra at sam house

She is wearing a different outfit so maybe she just doesn’t wear it.

Honestly I kinda forgot all about that little cliffhanger.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Did she forget her bra at sam house

Yes and hopefully her wet panties too, now Sam will wear her panties on his face like a covid mask

 

[Rojouninco1]

We see ..

Spoiler: Sophia relax with Dylan . Event to come " M & S "

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

 

[|UserName|]

I don't see how Sophia will make significant strides with Dylan during the evening event unless it's a flip of the switch. Plus, there is too much of a gap between their last scene. PD 12 jogging event (afternoon) to PD 13 evening event (evening), which is a day and a half gap; L&P said to me that the flames are now lower from that time point, which means another two steps forward and one step back. Which, again, tells me a flip of the switch to advance the scene for the PD 13 evening scene.

After their last event, when Dylan kicked the hobos ass in front of Sophia, she now sees him completely different, she even said so herself, his protector, she sees him more has a man than her son, it even stirred something within her that she never felt for him before, Sophia-Dylan Part 1 & 2, we will find out what stirred within her! IT IS TIME for Dylan to do some catching up with Sophia.

Spoiler: spoiler

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

 

[bardock8114]

After their last event, when Dylan kicked the hobos ass in front of Sophia, she now sees him completely different, she even said so herself, his protector, she sees him more has a man than her son, it even stirred something within her that she never felt for him before, Sophia-Dylan Part 1 & 2, we will find out what stirred within her! IT IS TIME for Dylan to do some catching up with Sophia.

Spoiler: spoiler

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

And he has benn cockblocked by Natalie fro over a year now. He finally gets his reward massage in the jacuzzi. I honestly do not care about the next update at all. I want Dylan and Sophia action.....

 

[|UserName|]

And he has benn cockblocked by Natalie fro over a year now. He finally gets his reward massage in the jacuzzi. I honestly do not care about the next update at all. I want Dylan and Sophia action.....

Exactly, his time is now!, LP said it was the next step in their relationship, not a step back, but a step forward.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

After their last event, when Dylan kicked the hobos ass in front of Sophia, she now sees him completely different, she even said so herself, his protector, she sees him more has a man than her son, it even stirred something within her that she never felt for him before, Sophia-Dylan Part 1 & 2, we will find out what stirred within her! IT IS TIME for Dylan to do some catching up with Sophia.

Spoiler: spoiler

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Reading the story's context up to this point would be best. At no moment before this scene did she express any feelings or thoughts that made her feel this way. There was no build-up to this point. It was nothing but "Sex-Ed." Now all of a sudden, after one fight with drinking hobos, She expresses interest in Dylan. L&P should have established a build-up point around the bikini event to show that she could have acknowledged that Dylan started making her feel different and was conflicted with her feelings toward Dylan.

If you compare some of the other stories, like Ellie and Sam, you can see a build-up; although it's quick, it has a sequence you can follow. At the same time, Dylan doesn't have that. So is Dylan going to catch up? Yes, but is it going to be a flip of the switch? This is highly likely because now, per L&P, there is a cool-down period that has to ramp back up again, and he can't build the story up anymore, So he will have to make it hot.

So it's not about her seeing him as a strong protector; her feelings about Dylan are changing. It's how Sophia arrived here with Dylan that is the issue. So that's my problem with the Sophia/Dylan story atm. Also, Dylan is supposed to cruise past Sam in the evening event.

 

[bardock8114]

Reading the story's context up to this point would be best. At no moment before this scene did she express any feelings or thoughts that made her feel this way. There was no build-up to this point. It was nothing but "Sex-Ed." Now all of a sudden, after one fight with drinking hobos, She expresses interest in Dylan. L&P should have established a build-up point around the bikini event to show that she could have acknowledged that Dylan started making her feel different and was conflicted with her feelings toward Dylan.

If you compare some of the other stories, like Ellie and Sam, you can see a build-up; although it's quick, it has a sequence you can follow. At the same time, Dylan doesn't have that. So is Dylan going to catch up? Yes, but is it going to be a flip of the switch? This is highly likely because now, per L&P, there is a cool-down period that has to ramp back up again, and he can't build the story up anymore, So he will have to make it hot.

So it's not about her seeing him as a strong protector; her feelings about Dylan are changing. It's how Sophia arrived here with Dylan that is the issue. So that's my problem with the Sophia/Dylan story atm. Also, Dylan is supposed to cruise past Sam in the evening event.

Actually this was the first time she saw Dylan in a dominant way. He protected her he was confident thorugh his "karate" lessons. And also Dylan got more daring with his "Demands" he was a begger but for the first time he was a man.

 

[|UserName|]

Reading the story's context up to this point would be best. At no moment before this scene did she express any feelings or thoughts that made her feel this way. There was no build-up to this point. It was nothing but "Sex-Ed." Now all of a sudden, after one fight with drinking hobos, She expresses interest in Dylan. L&P should have established a build-up point around the bikini event to show that she could have acknowledged that Dylan started making her feel different and was conflicted with her feelings toward Dylan.

If you compare some of the other stories, like Ellie and Sam, you can see a build-up; although it's quick, it has a sequence you can follow. At the same time, Dylan doesn't have that. So is Dylan going to catch up? Yes, but is it going to be a flip of the switch? This is highly likely because now, per L&P, there is a cool-down period that has to ramp back up again, and he can't build the story up anymore, So he will have to make it hot.

So it's not about her seeing him as a strong protector; her feelings about Dylan are changing. It's how Sophia arrived here with Dylan that is the issue. So that's my problem with the Sophia/Dylan story atm. Also, Dylan is supposed to cruise past Sam in the evening event.

I totally understand where you're coming from, personally i like where the story is going between them, and the fact that Dylan is supposed to cruise past Sam in the evening event, tells me that she's been feeling something for Dylan but possibly quite a while now but never wanted to admit it because he is her baby boy after all, but after that hobo event where he stood tall and made sure Sophia was comfortable during that event, she just can't hide those feelings anymore, that's kinda how I see it.

 

[|UserName|]

I totally understand where you're coming from, personally i like where the story is going between them, and the fact that Dylan is supposed to cruise past Sam in the evening event, tells me that she's been feeling something for Dylan but possibly quite a while now but never wanted to admit it because he is her baby boy after all, but after that hobo event where he stood tall and made sure Sophia was comfortable during that event, she just can't hide those feelings anymore, that's kinda how I see it.

I played the Sophia-Dylan path I think 5 times already and the more I played it, I feel like up to this point, she's been trying her hardest to keep her feelings for him as deep down inside her as she can, more than with any other characters in the game, keep in mind that he is her youngest child and just didn't want to admit or even think about Dylan this way, but she now finds it harder and harder to fight those feelings, Sophia-Dylan part 1 & 2, is when she finally stops fighting her feelings for him, imo.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I played the Sophia-Dylan path I think 5 times already and the more I played it, I feel like up to this point, she's been trying her hardest to keep her feelings for him as deep down inside her as she can, more than with any other characters in the game, keep in mind that he is her youngest child and just didn't want to admit or even think about Dylan this way, but she now finds it harder and harder to fight those feelings, Sophia-Dylan part 1 & 2, is when she finally stops fighting her feelings for him, imo.

That's the build-up part he should have used in her thoughts at the start but not acted on it. That would have shown the audience Sophia was conflicted with her feelings toward Dylan. But that's not what L&P did, that's the problem. Every scene felt like a flip of a switch in a sense. The jogging scene would be considered a flip switch because of how she changed after the hobo fight.

 

[|UserName|]

That's the build-up part he should have used in her thoughts at the start but not acted on it. That would have shown the audience Sophia was conflicted with her feelings toward Dylan. But that's not what L&P did, that's the problem. Every scene felt like a flip of a switch in a sense. The jogging scene would be considered a flip switch because of how she changed after the hobo fight.

Yep I agree, he didn't use it in her thoughts,like she did with the others, and up to this point she never thought about Dylan this way, until that hobo fight, now everything seems to have changed, which is exactly what you said, a flip switch, something awoke inside her in that moment.

 

[hzjujk]

I played the Sophia-Dylan path I think 5 times already and the more I played it, I feel like up to this point, she's been trying her hardest to keep her feelings for him as deep down inside her as she can, more than with any other characters in the game, keep in mind that he is her youngest child and just didn't want to admit or even think about Dylan this way, but she now finds it harder and harder to fight those feelings, Sophia-Dylan part 1 & 2, is when she finally stops fighting her feelings for him, imo.

Dylan is first and foremost their son. I don't see any romantic feelings that Sophia has for her son. It's still Dylan stalking his mother and crossing lines that are just embarrassing. (Exception is the photo event).
That a mother is proud of her son and also feels incredibly protected after Dylan knocks down one of the drunk men is normal and has nothing to do with romance. And looking someone deep in the eye is not necessarily an expression of romantic feelings either.
The difference from before is that Sophia feels comfortable with Dylan in a different way, because she increasingly notices that her son is changing, becoming more adult. He goes from being just a child to a son and a young adult that Sophia enjoys being with. But she still loves him only as her son. There is no trace of romance.
Where they see perhaps changed feelings, I see only a corrupted woman who finds it increasingly difficult to deal with their horniness. It is not the rise of Dylan, but the descent of Sophia that makes sexual interaction between the two possible. Not romance, but moral degeneration.
Dylan doesn't have to get better at all for sex, his mother accommodates him.
The switch Dr.Fapalot talks about is therefore not necessary at all. Sophia does not need to see Dylan differently at all.
But, and here is the stumbling block in my argument, this argument of Sophia's moral degeneration to this point only works in the context of all the events Sophia has participated in so far. If only the Dylan route is considered on its own, Sophia's corruption is not enough and we get the break/inconsistency in the Dylan/Sophia story that many complain about.

 

[XaGnard]

I totally understand where you're coming from, personally i like where the story is going between them, and the fact that Dylan is supposed to cruise past Sam in the evening event, tells me that she's been feeling something for Dylan but possibly quite a while now but never wanted to admit it because he is her baby boy after all, but after that hobo event where he stood tall and made sure Sophia was comfortable during that event, she just can't hide those feelings anymore, that's kinda how I see it.

Well, Sam hasn't come that far yet. If you look at it technically, they just kissed and had some light pedding were she did almost all the work herself (masturbated herfelf to orgasm). The whole thing just seems like much, because it took L&P years to get to this point.

I think the L&P post you recently shared gives a pretty good indication of what to expect:



"Yes, Dylan and Sophia can have a romantic relationship. But it will develop with time."

Based on that alone, I think it's going to take a lot more than just this one fight for Dylan to make some major steps forward. So, I think it will take some more game days (or decades of development ) before they really make serious progress. She may feel protected now and see unexpected strength in Dylan, but i do not think there is much more than that.


"The other way would be the cuck way, where Dylan will start to like to see his mom with other guys and will even try to create such situations."

Here I see far more potential. Although not yet in the current game day. If L&P is smart about this, he can create a lot of interesting twists and turns with this idea. I at least would like to see some more voyeurism in this game.

In general, I think it's a good idea not to expect too much for this game day. Especially since Sam hasn't really achieved much from a technical point of view. He was practically only a little bit more than just a spectator.

 

[|UserName|]

''Yes, Dylan and Sophia can have a romantic relationship. But it will develop with time."

Spoiler: spoiler

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

I think it starts at the evening event of Sophia-Dylan part 1 & 2, "it will develop with time" Last time I checked Sophia and Dylan are going to have quite a bit of events within the next couple of game days.

Spoiler: spoiler

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Dylan is first and foremost their son. I don't see any romantic feelings that Sophia has for her son. It's still Dylan stalking his mother and crossing lines that are just embarrassing. (Exception is the photo event).
That a mother is proud of her son and also feels incredibly protected after Dylan knocks down one of the drunk men is normal and has nothing to do with romance. And looking someone deep in the eye is not necessarily an expression of romantic feelings either.
The difference from before is that Sophia feels comfortable with Dylan in a different way, because she increasingly notices that her son is changing, becoming more adult. He goes from being just a child to a son and a young adult that Sophia enjoys being with. But she still loves him only as her son. There is no trace of romance.
Where they see perhaps changed feelings, I see only a corrupted woman who finds it increasingly difficult to deal with their horniness. It is not the rise of Dylan, but the descent of Sophia that makes sexual interaction between the two possible. Not romance, but moral degeneration.
Dylan doesn't have to get better at all for sex, his mother accommodates him.
The switch Dr.Fapalot talks about is therefore not necessary at all. Sophia does not need to see Dylan differently at all.
But, and here is the stumbling block in my argument, this argument of Sophia's moral degeneration to this point only works in the context of all the events Sophia has participated in so far. If only the Dylan route is considered on its own, Sophia's corruption is not enough and we get the break/inconsistency in the Dylan/Sophia story that many complain about.

It's going to be telling on PD16 with the effects of the split with and without Aiden's tasks. As you say, there is no flipped switch needed for Dylan particularly if you choose for Sophia to continue the tasks, since her degeneracy and brokenness is what gives Dylan the chance. No romance needed either. But I see the tasks themselves are the driving force.

What happens if Sophia gets help from Morello is an entirely different matter.

 

[hzjujk]

It's going to be telling on PD16 with the effects of the split with and without Aiden's tasks. As you say, there is no flipped switch needed for Dylan particularly if you choose for Sophia to continue the tasks, since her degeneracy and brokenness is what gives Dylan the chance. No romance needed either. But I see the tasks themselves are the driving force.

What happens if Sophia gets help from Morello is an entirely different matter.

I can follow them, although I don't want to see Aiden's tasks as the driving force. But that has very personal reasons how I want to go my way in the game.

 

[DREWSKY+]

Reading the story's context up to this point would be best. At no moment before this scene did she express any feelings or thoughts that made her feel this way. There was no build-up to this point. It was nothing but "Sex-Ed." Now all of a sudden, after one fight with drinking hobos, She expresses interest in Dylan. L&P should have established a build-up point around the bikini event to show that she could have acknowledged that Dylan started making her feel different and was conflicted with her feelings toward Dylan.

If you compare some of the other stories, like Ellie and Sam, you can see a build-up; although it's quick, it has a sequence you can follow. At the same time, Dylan doesn't have that. So is Dylan going to catch up? Yes, but is it going to be a flip of the switch? This is highly likely because now, per L&P, there is a cool-down period that has to ramp back up again, and he can't build the story up anymore, So he will have to make it hot.

So it's not about her seeing him as a strong protector; her feelings about Dylan are changing. It's how Sophia arrived here with Dylan that is the issue. So that's my problem with the Sophia/Dylan story atm. Also, Dylan is supposed to cruise past Sam in the evening event.

l&p should get Sophia/Dylan out of that Sex-Ed as much as possible. Otherwise the Sophia/Dylan storyline will surely be an epic fail in the game. Dylan doesn't need Sex-Ed to progress with Sophia. we hope l&p get Sophia/Dylan out of that sex-ed stuff.