karleston

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Since 2 days he went from 2000 patreons to 1600. Hope more will follow. He likes the project, he’s not gonne abandon it soon. He just need to now more followers don’t like the way he’s treating them, don’t keep his promises. Hope this will wake him up somehow…
A long term patron that doesn't know about patreon subscription cycles.... OK
 
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tofhdns

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people who don't pay are not allowed to complain. Like me, for example. I take what's there when there's and I thank regardless for everything I find.
boring.

If possible, why don't you, too, not complain to the people who write complaints?

The forum is a place for discussion, not a church to praise God.

Just as you have duties and rights, so do others.

If you want to praise God, go to Patreon and make an offering.

I just don't get it, some people say that only people who like games should stay on this forum and people who don't like games should go to Patreon, to support the developers.

Or they don't pay for what they write or speak, but they charge those who disagree with them.

Huuuuu.......
 

Brazzoth

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The game is officially tagged 'abandoned' in 2021.

However, the number of Patron still exceeds 4,000.

And we can also see "Don't Cry" here too.

What disease I don't know is spreading like an epidemic?
The famously said "Wait & See".
For this matter I saw that we had a post of Milfy City 1.0 final edition preview 12/15 two days ago
So for 2-3 years, people have been forgetting about the game but from ICSTOR delays Milfy City indefinitely to work on different project to now release a final version of the game with casual post of progress, I wonder how many renders it will have and if it will be worth it or completely changed.

We do know that L&P has been working and is working on the remake of his PART 1 renders and that's probably why it takes so much time, L&P suffers communication or think he don't owe us anything to explain, well that's unfortunate because communication is key, if people knows what's going on they'll keep cool and only positivity we'll come from this.
If kept in the dark only anger will come out of it, no matter people's opinion, this is human behavior.

I saw previous post of the dev claiming that anxiety was the results of some backlash and that developpment was slowing because of this, well R* suffers the same backlash when it's been 10 years since their most popular game and that their remaster was an insult to their community and they suffered from it!

From my POV, this is the last playable day and too much redundancy happened for it to be entertaining (titties suck and interruption), might going to ignore the thread, not as a protest or threat but just to forget about it, there's others cool game and might have new ones
 

Brazzoth

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We should split this thread into two different threads. One for critics, and one for the others, like that everyone will be happy. If you wanna criticize you can go to there and you will not bother anyone, same for the second group.
Do you remember it being wiped out almost completely because it was going out of control?
Well, this is actually chill, some people are wondering if their 'favorite' game will ever finish and follow the right pass and talks about it, that's it.

No need to act smarter because you're chill about it or comparing AWAM as oxygen for them...
 

hzjujk

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people who don't pay are not allowed to complain. Like me, for example. I take what's there when there's and I thank regardless for everything I find.
But he's allowed to have an opinion on a subject, isn't he? This is a forum for discussion, and if, like you just did with that unfortunate wording, you want to suppress opinions, then there is nothing to discuss.
Everyone has to decide for themselves when a contribution that puts one opinion up for discussion becomes just an endless, ever-repeating rascal.
With such thoughtless formulations as "If you don't pay, you can't complain!" you only achieve one thing - that the emotions boil up. They're just as provocative as phrases like "toadlicks," "fanboys," or "L&P worshipers."
 

Rajesh Ram

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Since 2 days he went from 2000 patreons to 1600. Hope more will follow. He likes the project, he’s not gonne abandon it soon. He just need to now more followers don’t like the way he’s treating them, don’t keep his promises. Hope this will wake him up somehow…
Unable to see number of Patreons.
 

karleston

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Do you remember it being wiped out almost completely because it was going out of control?
Well, this is actually chill, some people are wondering if their 'favorite' game will ever finish and follow the right pass and talks about it, that's it.

No need to act smarter because you're chill about it or comparing AWAM as oxygen for them...
Sure wondering if their favorite game will ever be completed by insulting the author and everyone who doesn't think like them

Why not.
 

hzjujk

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I've seen a few inconditionnal L&P's fan since a few days, facepalming any comments towards criticising or claims.
They might be new to this thread and can't complain about anything or they do know L&P personnally, that being said, this is very pathetic, this is becoming a threat game, nothing more.
Nothing positive will come from this and being respectful has become useless...
nonsense! Respect is never useless! Even if you have an opinion that may completely contradict your opinion.
Many of the so-called L&P fans have quite different opinions about L&P and also articulate this in their posts.
But this is often not noticed!
As with many discussions in society on other topics, some members here also represent the opinion that either you agree with me 100% or you are a fan of L&P and therefore my enemy.
 

karleston

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AWAM is like one of the most popular AVNs right now, wdym by niche?
Also, increasing production speed would definitely help you boost supporter numbers..
What i mean is not everyone is interested in incest or shota or even female character as an MC. If it weren't for Sophia i don't wanna even go near that thing.

Also, increasing production speed would definitely help you boost supporter numbers..
How do you know ? you did a study ?
 
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PaxHadrian17

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Couldn't say that better, except maybe for the solution which is quite simple, IF YOU DON'T like the current situation, YOU CAN MOVE ON. And that's it. Without DRAMA, that's how real men act.

But yes i agree with you it is foolish to think that by dropping the support he will work faster. AND I am not saying you should keep supporting him neither, i don't feel entitled to tell people what they should do or not with their money.
You keep trying to silence those who do not agree with you about AWAM.

As Dr. Phil would say... How's that working for ya?

I like AWAM and have spoken about what I enjoy and what I don't enjoy, as well as why I think it is unreasonable for Any creator to expect his supporters to pay for 30+ more years of development to get 1 completed AVN (based on current development times).

F95 is Not your Domain - it is a forum where users can express their opinions, their content desires, their praise and Yes - their criticism.

If you don't like that, then why don't you follow your own advice and

"MOVE ON. And that's it. Without DRAMA, that's how real men act."

Cheers! :coffee:
 

XaGnard

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people who don't pay are not allowed to complain. Like me, for example. I take what's there when there's and I thank regardless for everything I find.
You are not the first to make this strange claim here. But you are still wrong.

A good counterexample to your claim is the normal (non porn) games industry. Here, the developers often send out free preview keys to journals and occasionally also to some streamers, in order to test their game in advance (and thus even to criticise it professionally). Here, games are sometimes heavily criticised, even though the testers have not paid a penny for the game.

Especially for crowd-funded games, I think, to exchange views about a game is even more important. It is also important to hear the critical voices of those who do not recommend the game (e.g. due to lack of or poor project planning). If only the players who pay for L&P were allowed to say something, then the criticism would be far too one-sided and unbalanced.
 
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