VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Couto25]

I also have stopped sponsoring this developer, so I cannot participate in the voting process.
I rely on the information provided by Dr.SigmundFap.

I calculate the instantaneous vote count by subtracting the previous cumulative vote count from the last cumulative vote count.

And below is the result.
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As far as I count in this voting stats...LP had planned Sophia sex with 25 characters of the story before the release of Part 2.
It doesn't matter which character got how many votes but basically there were 25 different characters storyline with Sophia before starting part 2 of the story.

Everyone who were paid subscribers paid LP to see Sophia sex with each and every character..It doesn't matter if some character has got 30 votes and other character has got 1000 votes. The important thing is that they paid LP to see sex of Sophia with those characters, they were not freebies. Yea if someone like dylan and sam got highest vote start showing sex storyline with them first. But what about other characters?? I think Tyler was not even in that list of characters but still he got screentime and dick touch scene with Sophia.

Sophia has already got maximum filth point now.

I wanna say with every update, develop the storyline in such a way that it covers sex with atleast 2 characters per update. That way he can cover sex with 6 character per year if he launch 3 updates per year. And he can finally finish his story in the next 4/5 years.

Drop this slow burn story telling ways after 7 years, ending with just 1 scene and that too handjob or blowjob scene. And start developing the story that include storyline with these voted character including sex scene.

Atleast he can finish his game after 11/12 years this way...I mean 12 years is not less to finish just 1 Virtual Novel.

Stop messing around with the subscribers who supported LP in the past for months and years and drop the idea of adding Dylan and Ellie as a MC. You can develop Dylan and Ellie story after finishing one game.. and make another game as "The son and the daughter". And keep your Dylan Ellie fanbase for another 20 years where you can start corrupting them slowly for 7 years too. There are 2 characters so you can take 14 years to corrupt them to sex.

But Enough is Enough...Stick to Sophia as MC and stick to what subscriber has voted you for and supported you in the past. Don't divert the storyline by introducing more characters.. 25 is more than enough for sophia sex storyline.

 

[OgnjenaRavenWolf]

As far as I count in this voting stats...LP had planned Sophia sex with 25 characters of the story before the release of Part 2.
It doesn't matter which character got how many votes but basically there were 25 different characters storyline with Sophia before starting part 2 of the story.

Everyone who were paid subscribers paid LP to see Sophia sex with each and every character..It doesn't matter if some character has got 30 votes and other character has got 1000 votes. Yea if someone like dylan and sam got highest vote start showing sex storyline with them first. But what about other characters?? I think Tyler was not even in that list of characters but still he got screentime and dick touch scene with Sophia.

Sophia has already got maximum filth point now.

I wanna say with every update, develop the storyline in such a way that it covers sex with atleast 2 characters per update. That way he can cover sex with 6 character per year if he launch 3 updates per year. And he can finally finish his story in the next 4/5 years.

Drop this slow burn story telling ways after 7 years, ending with just 1 scene and that too handjob or blowjob scene. And start developing the story that include storyline with these voted character including sex scene.

Atleast he can finish his game after 12/13 years this way...I mean 13 years is not less to finish just 1 Virtual Novel.

Stop messing around with the subscribers who supported LP in the past for months and years and drop the idea of adding Dylan and Ellie as a MC. You can develop Dylan and Ellie story after finishing one game.. and make another game as "The son and the daughter". And keep your Dylan Ellie fanbase for another 20 years where you can start corrupting them slowly for 7 years too. There are 2 characters so you can take 14 years to corrupt them to sex.

But Enough is Enough...Stick to Sophia as MC and stick to what subscriber has voted you for and supported you in past. Don't divert the storyline by introducing more characters.. 25 is more than enough for Sophia sex storyline.

In short words : he prolonged story to milk thats why he introduced too many chars so focus can stay off Sophia because other project he milks from other Patreon accounts games he started here on the site.

INCSTR and AORRTA was like that. Except they actually finished few games many years ago then changed names or stated new projects under different accounts to milk ppl till they bleed...
But I agree with U

 

[packard1928]

How can this guy have 1900 paid members ! There are so many other deserving Dev's that produce a game with sex.... aterall that is what a porn game is suppose to have ! I do agree this has a godd story line. But man for as long as this has beed going.... this is not a good return for the money. I will never support this. I watch now just to see if by chance something DID happen. I have no hope there ever will. THe fan art is what keep this going...

 

[kalifrey20]

true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls

The problem also is that every time, he creates a new path letting all the previous ones unfinished, so the story never will go anywhere. So yes I agree with not waist money in patreon for this nosense

 

[Couto25]

true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls

yea but they get what they wanted in the end right..if i pay Camgirl to see her pussy ...i will get that....LP is like people paying him to see sex and he give boobshow. If i paid him to show sex of sophia with museum guys , he will show lesbian scene of ellie and christine...and after the update he say ellie is MC..it doesn't make sense with him.

 

[fortuna95]

How can this guy have 1900 paid members !

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[hzjujk]

yea but they get what they wanted in the end right..if i pay Camgirl to see her pussy ...i will get that....LP is like people paying him to see sex and he give boobshow. If i paid him to show sex of sophia with museum guys , he will show lesbian scene of ellie and christine...and after the update he say ellie is MC..it doesn't make sense with him.

How do you know what the “people” pay L&P for? I ask because I haven't seen any figures on this.
After seven years of development, any newcomer should have enough information to know what the game is about and how slow the development speed is before they start paying.
Anyone who joins or stays with L&P at the highest developer levels should know exactly what to expect. Or it's a complete idiot who doesn't bother to ask what he can get in return before he invests.
That's why I think most of his supporters know exactly that they're getting a slow character development, a story with many characters and more eroticism than sex, and are happy with that for a while.

 

[Couto25]

How do you know what the “people” pay L&P for? I ask because I haven't seen any figures on this.
After seven years of development, any newcomer should have enough information to know what the game is about and how slow the development speed is before they start paying.
Anyone who joins or stays with L&P at the highest developer levels should know exactly what to expect. Or it's a complete idiot who doesn't bother to ask what he can get in return before he invests.
That's why I think most of his supporters know exactly that they're getting a slow character development, a story with many characters and more eroticism than sex, and are happy with that for a while.

I know what people pay LP for because I was one of them..I will give you an example...with that voting too...Consider this if you like my novel and I ask you who would you like to have screentime and sex with sophia and I will give you 4 options..you choose 1 option or maybe all 4...and I will start building up story with 5th option will you stick to me?
And about complaining yea I unsubscribed him so I can say why and all stuff...Second, I dont mind eroticism it can be shown with sex too..You think supporters know exactly what they are getting?? I didnt know that..As an ex subscriber, he divert the story to keep extending slow burn...and I think you are just saying "happy for a while" yes so that's what I am saying..we call that milking ...whether it's new or old supporters, he will milk them and they will get disappointed and then they will do this in future what I am doing now. Please do subscribe him and check yourself if whatever he asked you to vote for, whether you will get it or not. I sincerely can recommend you to be his patreon and let us know your experience after an year. I dont take advices from freebies.

 

[Dr Secz]

I haven't expected scenes like these in this update. It was pretty good to be honest. Even i have prepared for update watching and reading about it.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

will be a very short scene with maybe 4-5 renders at the max

I know the "very short" of L&P

 

[bayrischman]

I know what people pay LP for because I was one of them..I will give you an example...with that voting too...Consider this if you like my novel and I ask you who would you like to have screentime and sex with sophia and I will give you 4 options..you choose 1 option or maybe all 4...and I will start building up story with 5th option will you stick to me?
And about complaining yea I unsubscribed him so I can say why and all stuff...Second, I dont mind eroticism it can be shown with sex too..You think supporters know exactly what they are getting?? I didnt know that..As an ex subscriber, he divert the story to keep extending slow burn...and I think you are just saying "happy for a while" yes so that's what I am saying..we call that milking ...whether it's new or old supporters, he will milk them and they will get disappointed and then they will do this in future what I am doing now. Please do subscribe him and check yourself if whatever he asked you to vote for, whether you will get it or not.

I know what people pay LP for because I was one of them..I will give you an example...with that voting too...Consider this if you like my novel and I ask you who would you like to have screentime and sex with sophia and I will give you 4 options..you choose 1 option or maybe all 4...and I will start building up story with 5th option will you stick to me?
And about complaining yea I unsubscribed him so I can say why and all stuff...Second, I dont mind eroticism it can be shown with sex too..You think supporters know exactly what they are getting?? I didnt know that..As an ex subscriber, he divert the story to keep extending slow burn...and I think you are just saying "happy for a while" yes so that's what I am saying..we call that milking ...whether it's new or old supporters, he will milk them and they will get disappointed and then they will do this in future what I am doing now. Please do subscribe him and check yourself if whatever he asked you to vote for, whether you will get it or not. I sincerely can recommend you to be his patreon and let us know your experience after an year. I dont take advices from freebies.

he,s not ready to work before may 13th anyway.

 

[hzjujk]

I know what people pay LP for because I was one of them..I will give you an example...with that voting too...Consider this if you like my novel and I ask you who would you like to have screentime and sex with sophia and I will give you 4 options..you choose 1 option or maybe all 4...and I will start building up story with 5th option will you stick to me?
And about complaining yea I unsubscribed him so I can say why and all stuff...Second, I dont mind eroticism it can be shown with sex too..You think supporters know exactly what they are getting?? I didnt know that..As an ex subscriber, he divert the story to keep extending slow burn...and I think you are just saying "happy for a while" yes so that's what I am saying..we call that milking ...whether it's new or old supporters, he will milk them and they will get disappointed and then they will do this in future what I am doing now. Please do subscribe him and check yourself if whatever he asked you to vote for, whether you will get it or not. I sincerely can recommend you to be his patreon and let us know your experience after an year. I dont take advices from freebies.

I am a supporter at a very low level. Because we knew from the start how slow the speed of development was and is. And I know what content I can and cannot get from L&P.
And I try to pay for what I consume. Not always but usually! And if at some point it's no longer enough, I'll leave without regret.

 

[mateusz1234]

What the fuck is happening to their faces with new updates? Hahah, they look so dumb now

 

[Golden Trump]

And now we wait till Winter.......

 

[jonnybravo11]

shit update

 

[Couto25]

I am a supporter at a very low level. Because we knew from the start how slow the speed of development was and is. And I know what content I can and cannot get from L&P.
And I try to pay for what I consume. Not always but usually! And if at some point it's no longer enough, I'll leave without regret.

I was highest supporter whenever he dropped any voting stuff earlier and switch to lower level for the other months. Tell us if you are supporter, i know lower level ones still get news about update n all..I don't care about development speed at all ...even when he released Dylan update where he took extra time , I don't mind it..There i will say he can take even an year for a single update...but the content is what I mind....scroll down if you are a patreon and see if there is Tyler name in that voting option? My question is then why there is a need to provide update of Sophia/Tyler storyline? He could had covered another character that people voted for right?? Whenever he divert from those character storyline, I can say it right...And when he announced to add dylan as an MC too in the middle of nowhere...I unsubscribed..like the pace of the story was not slow enough that he try to add another character as an MC. I will subscribe him if he stick to one MC and just don't divert but after all these years, and the way he's ending the novel with just HJ/BJ or whatever it is....it's not erotic to me. How come sex is not erotic after 7 years but HJ is erotic after 7000 renders?? Is it like if sophia do sex with any character, she will become whore?? That's why she is not doing it or what? So if any girl on this earth do sex with more than 1 guy..all are whores? no dont show sex of sophia because then she will become whore or it'll become fuckfest?? Sex can be shown in an erotic way too with good storyline. He just decided not to show it giving these stupid reason. Eroticism comes from story and sex scene both....Have you ever seen any erotic movie before without sex scene that ended with HJ / BJ only?? If any movie has been classified as erotic in past...there is 100% sex in it...and i am sure of that..so either show sex or don't classify this VN as erotic.

 

[Whitekink]

shit update

...and thankyou for that succinct review

 

[Candy Suxx]

The problem with L&P and the game is that there are too many characters and each with his own path. He kept on adding characters and due to that the slow progression with the ones already in the game slowed down even more.

He isn't DPC who will drop a massive update with each character and path getting enough content but is going similar way minus the content per update.

Dude earns enough to hire folks to do the render work but NO, cuz he knows his patrons are happy now and have been satisfied for past many years with whatever he throws at them,

 

[Fendrall]

Either he has some kind of severe mental disorder, or he has officially admitted that he is milking. He understands how many characters and how long it will take to develop them, but he doesn't want to do anything about that.

LP basically admitted that with all those characters he put in he created a big mess. Better late than never...

 

[DarkShadow29]

The problem with L&P and the game is that there are too many characters and each with his own path. He kept on adding characters and due to that the slow progression with the ones already in the game slowed down even more.

He isn't DPC who will drop a massive update with each character and path getting enough content but is going similar way minus the content per update.

Dude earns enough to hire folks to do the render work but NO, cuz he knows his patrons are happy now and have been satisfied for past many years with whatever he throws at them,

It's not too many characters or time taken to develop...these are bs excuses supporters keep making it on behalf of LP..

Main problem is this whether LP and his supporters accept it or not....He doesn't have any plan , he doesn't know how to take story forward, and his plan keep changing every year to continue milking his supporters.

I will give you example...First he show Sophia tease with say Dylan everyone attracted to dylan and wanted to see sex with both of them....then he show tease of Sophia and Ellie...everyone attracted to Ellie and voted to see sex with her.....then he keep showing sophia tease with several characters...as per previous voting post..he had shown sophia tease with 25 characters..LP was getting popular that time so everyone voted as per their need ....LP was getting money ...just by showing tease...so how can he milk more??

Add dylan and ellie and restart the plan what he did with sophia..now he is building story around logan tyler amber christine etc showing just tease ....people started criticizing..LP giving excuses like all parker family is MC now...where he milked several people with just tease without sex because he dont know what to do or how to continue the story after sex...In the mean time people becoming fan of Ellie and Dylan too...People just want sex...doesn't matter with who...whatever he show with a little story in every update told up in front..obviously everyone get attracted to that story and expect more.

He don't have any story at the back of mind for sophia after sex with any character...he just know once the sex is done with any particular character..people wanna know what happened next and he doesnt have that...Suppose sophia did sex with dylan...so what will happen with dylan and sophia next?? How the story will move forward? No clue. So hold sex with all characters and end the story by showing sex in each and every storyline.

So in the end he will show sex with all characters probably...until then whatever bullshit he shows with short interaction with third person and fourth person characters..is just milking...tomorrow if he will show Ellie, logan tease and end up with blowjob...people will be excited and want to see more of it...that is called waste of time and an unnecessary update or in short milking.

So think make a story, include all characters that has been provided to the audience before ...show sex and finish this VN ...and most important..STICK TO THE PLAN ...DONT ADD MORE SIDE STORIES. Stop with the tease...we all had seen enough of tease for 7 years. It's not even exciting nowadays.