VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

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tofhdns

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Couto25 said:
Just saying if this story is on heavy touching mode..he can complete by this year showing heavy teasing and for the rest of the renders he can use it to move the main story forward with character storyline buildup with Sophia. That will actually give us a feeling like yea we played a single PD in single update with many characters interaction with Sophia in a single day...But if he just want to develop one character interaction in one update with no sex, it will be boring. See if he will eventually end this PD with tease...then cover the whole PD telling us the story and add tease wherever required together...But, if he will show tease with individual characters exclusively in every update, that means 4 more updates and 1.5 more years of nothing. Just saying if there's no sex..there should be no need to extend renders for unnecessary dialogues and tease where Sophia is saying no no no lol. Nowadays I think, a single updates doesn't even have 250-300 renders.

There's another disadvantage of covering a single character interaction of Sophia per update and that is the main story doesn't seems to move forward anywhere..if feels like it's stuck since last 2 years..he has to cover the whole PD in a single update...atleast until this tease parts get over.
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First of all, I don't understand why you emphasize 'teasing'.
(I literally have trouble interpreting this, and this is not to fault you.)

What I can say is that regarding 'sex' in steps 1 2 3 4, sex does not only refer to Sophia. (Others too, of course)
As mentioned earlier, there are of course routes such as Sophia/Ellie and Sophia/Dylan, but it is very likely that Sophia's, Ellie's, and Dylan's are separated.
Like Andre/Jennifer sex.

So, even if the step changes, it is still too early to be sure that this developer will change the way he has done it so far.

I did not place Ellie's sex and Sophia's sex on the same line, and as I mentioned Ellie's sex and Sophia's lesbian (no sex, but sexual), there is a possibility that they are mixed somewhere between stages 3 and 4.
And I think there is a possibility that it will continue that way for some time to come.

I think 'this developer needs to condense the story', as you want(and me), but I've yet to see anything to suggest that the '2 years per PD' development period has changed or will change.
 
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tofhdns said:
First of all, I don't understand why you emphasize 'teasing'.
(I literally have trouble interpreting this, and this is not to fault you.)

What I can say is that regarding 'sex' in steps 1 2 3 4, sex does not only refer to Sophia. (Others too, of course)
As mentioned earlier, there are of course routes such as Sophia/Ellie and Sophia/Dylan, but it is very likely that Sophia's, Ellie's, and Dylan's are separated.
Like Andre/Jennifer sex.

So, even if the step changes, it is still too early to be sure that this developer will change the way he has done it so far.

I did not place Ellie's sex and Sophia's sex on the same line, and as I mentioned Ellie's sex and Sophia's lesbian (no sex, but sexual), there is a possibility that they are mixed somewhere between stages 3 and 4.
And I think there is a possibility that it will continue that way for some time to come.

I think 'this developer needs to condense the story', as you want(and me), but I've yet to see anything to suggest that the '2 years per PD' development period has changed or will change.
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I emphasize teasing because I define teasing as everything beside real sex like your stage 1/2/3 whatever Sophia do besides real sex is for teasing audience purpose..And the developer end the update whenever he add those part whether it's stage 1/2/3...and for these stages he waste so many renders on dialogue, creating mood and in the scene from different angles with options whether to stop or to keep getting filthy..that ends up to nothing....it end up Sophia saying no no no in the end.....So I am just saying that if he has not planned to include the real sex, until then he can focus on the main story part rather wasting render on teasing and he can cover other parts of the story too, like if he is not willing to show Sophia/Ellie full sex then he could have covered morning and noon story in the single update..but again as I said he will waste his time on developing renders for stage 1/2/3 level of sex part for half of the time. Offcourse I mean add those stages of sex but he don't need to add it in a long way as he did kept doing it ..he can just show the stage where did Sophia has reached now with few sexual scenes and move on with the story.
 
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Here are some random thoughts and opinions on rel 0.200. Feel free to skip this if you haven’t seen rel 0.200, or if you don’t care about my opinions.

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Couto25

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I am going to unfollow this game if Sophia's first sex in Patricia PD will be with Liam lol. For that I have to wait for 2.5 years.
 
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As the evolution of L&P's updates get smaller and smaller, where he is now not even doing a complete event, but breaking up variants of the same event into their own stand alone update, which will then have people without multiple concurrent playthroughs with *no* content per update, but without any significant speeding up of the development time, y'all realize what the next logical step in his development journey will be?

L&P will start making each choice in every decision it's own separate update.

If a single event has, say, 3 decisions with 2 choices each, well, that's not just *6* updates right there for one event.

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That's *8* updates he can milk out of the variations of that single event.

Genius!
 
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The amount of renders of sophia provided by LP per update are getting shorter ....I remember during Dylan as MC he mentioned like 678 renders in just single update....he launched the first part and this game with like 900+ renders ....and look now..200, 150 and that too with just 1 character storyline in whole update....its BS.

I am just wondering there are developers who are working their ass off to bring on good updates of 250-300+ renders per update.....and LP supporters are just praising him for providing 150 render update after 3/4 months and that too with Sophia interaction with mostly one side character in whole update...like now he's doing Ellie storyline so he will give 100 renders update about Sophia/Ellie without sex and supporters will be like what a fantastic update....amazing renders and storyline ...just wow.
 
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Couto25 said:
I am interested in this part.If it is taken as a single PD..So will this PD will be completed by this year??
I think the whole morning event will be completed by end of june probably as it's ongoing.
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Not gonna happen. Next release might not even include the Vicky gym scene, so that'd be another update to conclude the morning events. We might make it to the 1st sidejob event at the end of this year with some luck. I highly doubt he'll release both sidejobs in 1 update as it's very likely that both are going to have animations, aswell as being larger updates.

Seeing how L&P already added a couple unplanned events for this PD, I'd say we are once again looking at a new record for the slowest PD ever developed, with the current record being 777 days for PD13.

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(graph taken from quency77, who is keeping track of all the numbers)

I expect it to go up by quite a bit again. Would be really surprising to see it going the other way, as L&P's development has only gone one way, and one way only for the past 5+ years. Always worse, never better.
 
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derek1957 said:
Here are some random thoughts and opinions on rel 0.200. Feel free to skip this if you haven’t seen rel 0.200, or if you don’t care about my opinions.

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I want to clarify, Ellie and Logan have already had oral sex.
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scene day20_dylan_ellie_part_one 18
lo "Come on. It was just sex! She means nothing to me. You're my number one!"
lo "But I also gotta my fun every now and then. Just having oral sex is boring all the time."
 
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Man at the rate this is going someone will either create a sex robot sophia or either fully create one from an artificial womb before we have any hope of sniffing the 30 playable days that were promised at the start of the game.

if we are still on playable day 13 been a while since i played and it takes 3 years per playable day give or take we still need 17 days thats 17*3=51 years if he adds no more to the story.
 
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palmtrees89 said:
Not gonna happen. Next release might not even include the Vicky gym scene, so that'd be another update to conclude the morning events. We might make it to the 1st sidejob event at the end of this year with some luck. I highly doubt he'll release both sidejobs in 1 update as it's very likely that both are going to have animations, aswell as being larger updates.

Seeing how L&P already added a couple unplanned events for this PD, I'd say we are once again looking at a new record for the slowest PD ever developed, with the current record being 777 days for PD13.

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(graph taken from quency77, who is keeping track of all the numbers)

I expect it to go up by quite a bit again. Would be really surprising to see it going the other way, as L&P's development has only gone one way, and one way only for the past 5+ years. Always worse, never better.
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New record : 1000 zinedine-zidane-icegif-7.gif
 
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