DylansMoM_001

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I get what you're sayin and my point isn't just about the length of the updates but also the coherence and link between the teasers and the actual update itself and I totally agree to your point but i think it's a bit pretentious and there's some exaggeration into it. I do think the reason why there might be some repetitive visual structure in the way angles are made or the way the teasers are being selected is simply because of how much of an importance it can provide down the main storyline without forgetting that L&P is working almost alone with no team, so if he had some good story writer with an appeasing and well formed taste in romance and seduction he would've suggested to him some spicy ideas on how to select the teasers just so the repetitive dilemma stops and the fans get more hyped up but i think we should just look at it from a realistic perspective I don't think that he/she puts too much thought into it cuz obviously he's barely able to deliver updates on a consistent deadline like every 2/3/4 months. It's not like I'm trying to defend him/her but it's a game with sexual content which the majority of players unfortunately are only looking to that extent, they don't appreciate the story telling, the teasing, the elements of seduction implemented to arouse a well cultured audience ''such as yourself i presume'' and also the corruption criteria and the developer's ability on how to slowly implement it in a clever yet arousing way. And the matter of me insulting you is simply due to the fact that you misjudged me and nothing more. My first thread wasn't meant to insult you back by calling you 'dumbum' it's just a silly way of calling you 'dummy' like in a friendly joking tone and nothing more. I'm sorry if you misread that and thought that i was belittling your intellect cuz i simply wasn't. That's why you got on my nerves a bit and my anger clouded my judgement and yes i clearly know how to defend myself when I'm in a heated debate with someone on the internet neither am I even proud that I might do harsh things anyway cuz it's just pointless and childish and if you think that I will let anyone get away with any thing of that sort you're mistaken. Anyways sorry for the misunderstanding that occured i clearly didn't fully grasp your idea about how teasers are made cuz it felt kinda vague in the specific way you described it but okay my bad then cuz you know you don't find a mature audience that often these days who play such games and especially visiting such websites alright. Sorry again for any unwelcomed disturbance from my sake and peace. ✌
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I only watch to see how many fanbois are left. I gave up on this one years ago. Laughably, people still like a no sex game after more than 7 fucking years. Pathetic. L & P can live on this for the rest of his life without her ever fucking anyone but her huband.
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jonnybravo11

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I get what you're sayin and my point isn't just about the length of the updates but also the coherence and link between the teasers and the actual update itself and I totally agree to your point but i think it's a bit pretentious and there's some exaggeration into it. I do think the reason why there might be some repetitive visual structure in the way angles are made or the way the teasers are being selected is simply because of how much of an importance it can provide down the main storyline without forgetting that L&P is working almost alone with no team, so if he had some good story writer with an appeasing and well formed taste in romance and seduction he would've suggested to him some spicy ideas on how to select the teasers just so the repetitive dilemma stops and the fans get more hyped up but i think we should just look at it from a realistic perspective I don't think that he/she puts too much thought into it cuz obviously he's barely able to deliver updates on a consistent deadline like every 2/3/4 months. It's not like I'm trying to defend him/her but it's a game with sexual content which the majority of players unfortunately are only looking to that extent, they don't appreciate the story telling, the teasing, the elements of seduction implemented to arouse a well cultured audience ''such as yourself i presume'' and also the corruption criteria and the developer's ability on how to slowly implement it in a clever yet arousing way. And the matter of me insulting you is simply due to the fact that you misjudged me and nothing more. My first thread wasn't meant to insult you back by calling you 'dumbum' it's just a silly way of calling you 'dummy' like in a friendly joking tone and nothing more. I'm sorry if you misread that and thought that i was belittling your intellect cuz i simply wasn't. That's why you got on my nerves a bit and my anger clouded my judgement and yes i clearly know how to defend myself when I'm in a heated debate with someone on the internet neither am I even proud that I might do harsh things anyway cuz it's just pointless and childish and if you think that I will let anyone get away with any thing of that sort you're mistaken. Anyways sorry for the misunderstanding that occured i clearly didn't fully grasp your idea about how teasers are made cuz it felt kinda vague in the specific way you described it but okay my bad then cuz you know you don't find a mature audience that often these days who play such games and especially visiting such websites alright. Sorry again for any unwelcomed disturbance from my sake and peace. ✌
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Notretsam

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ya know, L&P gets a lot of heat in this thread and I've even been adding to it more than defending him.

However, I have to give L&P credit for this reply, I think it's the most honest I have ever seen L&P be. He is not wrong that it would cost a small fortune to hire people to help with AWAM.

Also, it is good to see him acknowledge that he has to think about how to speed things up.

He is rather committed to everything he has added, and with the benefit of hindsight now, he probably wouldn't have started events that have no influence, until after the main story finished.

This is probably why L&P didn't do the coaching side story with Sophia, it makes sense and as a developer, it's a damn good lesson for me to benefit from.

The animations could have been added in after the main story finished but whether he does it now or in future, he still has to pay for them at some point. It's not like the animations are bad, they're mostly really great so far.

I have my own issues with AWAM but credit when credit is deserved, this was a pretty good reply by L&P.
 

Yamakasi20

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ya know, L&P gets a lot of heat in this thread and I've even been adding to it more than defending him.

However, I have to give L&P credit for this reply, I think it's the most honest I have ever seen L&P be. He is not wrong that it would cost a small fortune to hire people to help with AWAM.

Also, it is good to see him acknowledge that he has to think about how to speed things up.

He is rather committed to everything he has added, and with the benefit of hindsight now, he probably wouldn't have started events that have no influence, until after the main story finished.

This is probably why L&P didn't do the coaching side story with Sophia, it makes sense and as a developer, it's a damn good lesson for me to benefit from.

The animations could have been added in after the main story finished but whether he does it now or in future, he still has to pay for them at some point. It's not like the animations are bad, they're mostly really great so far.

I have my own issues with AWAM but credit when credit is deserved, this was a pretty good reply by L&P.

I still want to know, if his animator is 3k/animation, how much would someone like HydraFXX charge per animation? 50k? 100k?
 

tofhdns

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ya know, L&P gets a lot of heat in this thread and I've even been adding to it more than defending him.

However, I have to give L&P credit for this reply, I think it's the most honest I have ever seen L&P be. He is not wrong that it would cost a small fortune to hire people to help with AWAM.

Also, it is good to see him acknowledge that he has to think about how to speed things up.

He is rather committed to everything he has added, and with the benefit of hindsight now, he probably wouldn't have started events that have no influence, until after the main story finished.

This is probably why L&P didn't do the coaching side story with Sophia, it makes sense and as a developer, it's a damn good lesson for me to benefit from.

The animations could have been added in after the main story finished but whether he does it now or in future, he still has to pay for them at some point. It's not like the animations are bad, they're mostly really great so far.

I have my own issues with AWAM but credit when credit is deserved, this was a pretty good reply by L&P.
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DurumMurud

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WTF is this shit? LP Hadnt visit a gym in his fucking life. This doesnt make any kind of sense. DeShawn should fall down, that position is uncomfortable as fuck, and he is pushing between hips and ribs, that is a soft spot and hurts for Sophia.

L&P is a fat dude who had never put his feet in a gym. Also Sophia's position works to either stretch hips or to stretch shoulder blades, but DeShawn pushing direction serves neither purpose, what an "expert". BTW, DeShawn "the expert" has feminine hands in almost all teasers, not a certified gym bro!

Anyways, this dude goes on rounds. He did the "Sophia watches cock" round, then she did the "Sophia gets fabric touched" round, then the "Sophia shows boobs", then the "Sophia gets boob sucked", and now the "Sophia grabs cock". DeShawn is an old character, so he has a long catch up. His cock will end in Sophia's hand and will inmediately leave for the next grab while forgetting this happened.

You will see DeShawn's cock on Sophia's hand, I doubt he will cum like Dylan.
 

tofhdns

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he said a really good animator, have you seen how much studios pay for animation/VFX?

I didn't know the sports event was still included, well, shoot, would make sense to wait on that but wonder if it key to main story then.
How good animation?
Finger moving animation?
Breasts shakes animation?
30 second animation?

And animations that were mostly processed by AI?

Did you know that there are other groups working on the same animation using the same tools that L&P or the L&P team used?

The animation you saw on AWAM wasn't about a soccer team playing, it was just about moving fingers.

In the past, he said that he works non-stop for a whole month.
But, the maximum time he spent on one rendering was 45 minutes. (3 per day on average)
And he had even denied he was taking a two-week break until his Patrons found out.

Likewise, what he says is not what he actually paid, but just what he searched for on the Internet.
 

Notretsam

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How good animation?
Finger moving animation?
Breasts shakes animation?
30 second animation?

And animations that were mostly processed by AI?

Did you know that there are other groups working on the same animation using the same tools that L&P or the L&P team used?

The animation you saw on AWAM wasn't about a soccer team playing, it was just about moving fingers.

In the past, he said that he works non-stop for a whole month.
But, the maximum time he spent on one rendering was 45 minutes. (3 per day on average)
And he had even denied he was taking a two-week break until his Patrons found out.

Likewise, what he says is not what he actually paid, but just what he searched for on the Internet.
Have you ever actually made an animated image? I have and it's not easy to smoothly move one body part, never mind multiple, and multiple body parts are moving in the animations.

Most other animated scenes in VN's aren't smooth, they're jumpy as there are not enough images created for the animation. This is why I believe the animations L&P has paid for are done by someone who is professional at it, and that doesn't come cheap.

I can't 100% deny your accusation about L&P and nor do I care to, I prefer to think positively and I originally credited L&P for a post I thought was great and I stand by that. if you want to crap over that and take a dig at L&P while doing so, then be my guest but that is on you.
 

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There’s been discussion/speculation of Sophia watching Vicky and DeShawn having sex in this next release, although nothing is by any means official that I know of. It’s just one theory of many. It got me thinking about how Sophia has handled voyeur opportunities in the past. I compiled a list of eight times that Sophia has watched people in sexual situations in the game. By my count, only twice did Sophia touch herself while watching. Let me know if I missed anything or if you saw something differently.

PERSON(S) BEING WATCHED - What action Sophia saw - Sophia’s reaction.

DYLAN - masturbating in his bed – Not much to see under the covers, but Sophia believed that she heard Dylan talking about Sophia.

NATHALIE 1 – undressed to thong in bedroom – Sophia wished she would have turned around and shown her teenaged breasts.

DYLAN - naked in the shower - Sophia admired his muscles and bare butt, acted all shocked and “OMG” that she saw his penis, but was happy with its size.

NEIL AND AMBER - full naked sex in their yard- Sophia rubbed her own pussy and squeezed her breast. She admired the size of Neil’s dick, chuckled at his lack of stamina, wished she could see Amber’s “boobs bouncing”.

ELLIE AND JULIA - watched them kissing - Proud of Ellie for expanding her sexual horizons. Sophia wondered what it would be like to kiss a woman.

NATHALIE 2 - watched her masturbating her naked wet pussy and moaning Sophia’s name in Sophia’s bed - Sophia rubbed her own clit over her clothes and imagined herself licking and tasting Nathalie’s pussy.

VICKY AND DESHAWN - playing with each other’s genitals in the sauna- Though aroused, Sophia chose to interrupt them and then essentially said that she was cool with their actions.

AIDEN, ANDRE, JENNIFER - Aiden and Andre blackmailed Jennifer into having sex with them in an empty classroom - Sophia silently watched her trio of students despite knowing that Jennifer was blackmailed into the sex, “Hating to admit to herself that it was kind of arousing.” Otherwise, no comments on the sex or on Aiden and Andre’s naked bodies.

VIEW FROM SOPHIA’s POV:
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SOPHIA’S REACTIONS:
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tofhdns

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Have you ever actually made an animated image? I have and it's not easy to smoothly move one body part, never mind multiple, and multiple body parts are moving in the animations.

Most other animated scenes in VN's aren't smooth, they're jumpy as there are not enough images created for the animation. This is why I believe the animations L&P has paid for are done by someone who is professional at it, and that doesn't come cheap.

I can't 100% deny your accusation about L&P and nor do I care to, I prefer to think positively and I originally credited L&P for a post I thought was great and I stand by that. if you want to crap over that and take a dig at L&P while doing so, then be my guest but that is on you.
I don't work with 3D graphics.
But, I know the price of 3D graphics that can be viewed three-dimensionally rather than flat.
The reason I'm silent is because it's not porn.
It is much more complex, much more detailed, and much more realistic than AWAM.

L&P's animation is also definitely not that expensive.

The composition does not change and there is no creation.
All it does is make the results of L&P's work appear to be moving for a short period of time.

If that price is for making a few seconds of animation, even if he only works on one a week, he is the owner and L&P is the subcontractor.
 
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