VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[WhiteWolf619]

I know i have said it before me personally i would have made Dylan and Ellie side characters have some of the stories evolving around them like the Bennet/Aiden story lines tied to her protecting Dylan or Jules going down a possible lesbian route, Sam i would make more a romantic route and so on but i get he is doing what he is for his supporters.

As for the overall story i can understand wanting to take a slow approach to the actual story as you want to try and create a little realism while making some money off it but it would also help if you release updates a little quicker. Who knows how long you could keep a story like this going, you may even come up with a new story along the way a part 2. Ellie's life and even do something with Dylan's life after the story end.

 

[MisterG]

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I guess my only real concern is whether or not I get my lesbian route by endgame. If Sophia and/or Ellie has to fuck Dylan in the storyline, then I'm out. If it's an option, then I'll probably still support the game.

Hi,

since the Lesbian Route is the complete opposite of the Dylan Route in terms of choices, I don't think they "meet."
And that's a good thing, since decisions would otherwise have no meaning.

Also, I think it's more of a "bi" route that also comes with threesomes (maybe foursomes).

Take the Patricia route for example.
I think Sophia and Patricia will go home together with the guys from the sauna/club. She has already arranged for a Friday or Saturday and he already had his hand between her legs.
And we know how Sophia reacts to alcohol
Here is the possibility for a foursome!!!

With Vicky and DeShawn it could be a threesome, while I see the pure lesbian route only with Alyssa.... did I miss/forget something?

Incest is so absolutely not my fetish at all, but Ellie and her friend go all in on Sophia.
Dylan wouldn't fit in here at all either in my opinion.

So, long story short: I think you wont have to fuck Dylan

Just my thoughts on it
MisterG

Edit: format/ spell check

 

[ancienregimele]

Might have to email him, give him some advice on how to write Dylan out of the story lol.

He gets signed by an English or Scottish top flight team. He becomes a star on & off the pitch. There's talk of being in the US World Cup squad. Life is great. He has high profile supermodel girlfriends, sports cars, a mini-mansion. He still visits San Alejo but he can't even recall lusting after his own mother. He leads the life many of us dreamt of as teenagers...what a happy ending for this route. Let no-one say I hate Dylan! It's just his omniprescence I can't stand.

 

[lockerxx]

There hasn't been anything to even suggest that, so no. As far as I'm aware, the Cathy and Andy storyline got dropped early, when L&P decided not to use Liam as an MC, since the original idea was to be able to play from his POV as well.

Cathy and andy i don´t think so.they are in the character guide.the sexy co-workers of liam are cut from the game.

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[niek07]

Thought of he day.
Most people on here, if not all of you,expect something very bad to happen to Sophia when Liam discovers about her affairs.
What would happen if say Liam discovers that Sophia has been unfaithful and they have a fight and Liam drives off mad as hell and has a fatal car crash?
Sophia filled with guilt/remorse and unable to afford the upkeep of the mansion would maybe have to move back home,alienated by her children because of what Sophia's caused,the death of there father.

I don't think this game is going to be this dark. It could be an interesting storyline but I'm not sure it would fit well with the rest of the story.

 

[ancienregimele]

Thought of he day.
Most people on here, if not all of you,expect something very bad to happen to Sophia when Liam discovers about her affairs.
What would happen if say Liam discovers that Sophia has been unfaithful and they have a fight and Liam drives off mad as hell and has a fatal car crash?
Sophia filled with guilt/remorse and unable to afford the upkeep of the mansion would maybe have to move back home,alienated by her children because of what Sophia's caused,the death of there father.

It will be bad, whatever happens, if Liam finds out. I hope it won't lead to death because too many games present death as a choice & there's enough of this in RL, without introducing it to what is meant to be an entertaining escapist sexy fantasy. Murder & suicide are also very real options in an unfaithful partner scenario. It's apparent that many fans are young & may not have experienced the disintegration of a marriage, or long-term relationship, (I'm talking years of living with the same person, kids etc.). I could be, (& hope), I'm wrong but this makes me think that they might like Liam out of the picture in whatever way it happens. There is no gung-ho attitude available to those in a divorce situation such as this, even for those who, on finding out, manage to make love to someone else within days or weeks of the break-up, this is not the start of some wonderful new-found 'freedom.' Imagine that Liam discovers Sophia has been in a 'liaison" with Dylan. Doing nothing would not be an option. Killing his wife & son, then himself would be at one extreme but remember that those poor folks in such a situation are not in their right minds. [I'm fully aware that we're talking about pixels here & no actual person will be harmed but nor will there be "ahegao" faces all round.....I HATE ahegao faces!].
There are numerous strong emotions generated by this unfortunate circumstance which should not be under-stated, even in a game. We are talking about one of the most traumatising of experiences, which regretably is very common.
If & when Sophia's faithlessness is discovered it will be a mighty challenge to L&P's writng skills as to how it is handled. He has shown great story-telling ability on occasion but there have also been many examples of superficial writing. I hope the former prevails in this future scenario, unless of course, Liam never finds out.

 

[Skut100]

imagine Sophia caught liam cheating. you can avoid having sex with liam all the time. At some point he is so frustrated that he cheats on Sophia with one of his colleagues. maybe at a company party or something. sophia finds out or catches him having sex with another woman. now she thinks “so far everything was just a kind of fun with dylan, sam, ellie,..... but now that liam cheated on me, I can do it too

 

[Skut100]

We can imagine all we want but Liam is not cheating on Sophia.

No sex for such a long time....who knows

 

[Skut100]

It has already been stated by the dev that Liam is not cheating.

Then I'll take back everything I just said

 

[ThatDuuuuude]

After my previous comments the game kind of got stucked on my mind.. So one day i used a mod and followed the lesbian route. I really didn't think i would enjoy it as much as i did but their showering moments and attraction was VERY hot and enjoyable. It's still much teasing but more action than with her (cucked whiney) son. I'm stocked for the next patch! Too bad it might take a while :/

What storyline do you guys/girls think is the best?

 

[lockerxx]

I was trying to look at it from LIam's point of view,think of him what you will , he is a dedicated husband and he adores his wife.
He would never cheat on Sophia and has complete faith in her, so it would be soul destroying for him when he finds out and as you have said we have no idea on how Liam will react if he discovers Sophia with either Ellie or Dylan.
I think it would be too easy if they got divorced and Sophia would of got off lightly,the consequences of Sophia's actions have to match the betraya/hurt/anger that Liam feels and I feel that divorce would not fit this,depening on circumstances.

but in what path this could happen in the sophie/dylan,bennet,aiden,sam,ellie,zak,alyssa,vicky?
this super dark end.

 

[hmc15]

Thought of he day.
Most people on here, if not all of you,expect something very bad to happen to Sophia when Liam discovers about her affairs.
What would happen if say Liam discovers that Sophia has been unfaithful and they have a fight and Liam drives off mad as hell and has a fatal car crash?
Sophia filled with guilt/remorse and unable to afford the upkeep of the mansion would maybe have to move back home,alienated by her children because of what Sophia's caused,the death of there father.

Hello Don Morello

 

[hmc15]

You're going to need to explain why what you're saying is different from what I'm saying.

This game is possibly the great AVN game ever made. It has significant potential for audience and therefore customers to expand. What you're saying about point of diminishing returns is absolutely accurate and true, however, it applies only to CURRENT fans that have been following the project. Should this game expand into different platforms (i.e., Steam) that cohort of fans would not experience diminishing returns as their perspective of the game would still be in the investment phase.

L&P is going to be A-okay milking this game whether we like it or not.

 

[dr.akhibadge]

He needs his likes somehow

True

 

[lockerxx]

After my previous comments the game kind of got stucked on my mind.. So one day i used a mod and followed the lesbian route. I really didn't think i would enjoy it as much as i did but their showering moments and attraction was VERY hot and enjoyable. It's still much teasing but more action than with her (cucked whiney) son. I'm stocked for the next patch! Too bad it might take a while :/

What storyline do you guys/girls think is the best?

the sophie/ellie is my favourite for now.that showers mom/daughter

 

[Deleted member 1857423]

2 questions:
1) does l&p use pre made characters and environment to buid renders or did he do all from scratch using 3d programs like blender or character creator?
2) i found other work that uses l&p character models so the question: did they borrow thoem from the original dev? in chase oit's positive, are those characters under licenses with copyright of some sort?

asking because i'd love to start builkding my own vns.
peace dudes.

 

[Rojouninco1]

with all due respect I !! Dylan POV in before and after Yoga class in the locker room and especially bahaha ! Shower room . If you go that route . Sophia feels comfortable taking off her yoga clothes . In front of Patricia . That I think Patricia should have been also have a POV seeing Sophia naked. Hmm that Will have been nice . Just saying . . Now come the faceplam .

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I was trying to look at it from LIam's point of view,think of him what you will , he is a dedicated husband and he adores his wife.
He would never cheat on Sophia and has complete faith in her, so it would be soul destroying for him when he finds out and as you have said we have no idea on how Liam will react if he discovers Sophia with either Ellie or Dylan.
I think it would be too easy if they got divorced and Sophia would of got off lightly,the consequences of Sophia's actions have to match the betraya/hurt/anger that Liam feels and I feel that divorce would not fit this,depening on circumstances.

This is one of the biggest things that most players of AWAM aren't considering. While every player understands that this game isn't a fuck-fest, many are very eager for Sophia to pull the trigger on cheating on Liam. I admit, I would like to see her have sex too (though I've been happy with the Liam scenes, especially the last one), but they aren't considering the ramifications of sex with Dylan or Ellie. The game is setting this up as not just a sexy release, but also a devastating blow to the family core. I think we all agree that Sophia maybe can get away with just fooling around with Ellie, but that sex with Dylan is the real powder keg. As I said many, many, pages ago, I think sex with Dylan will come late because it will be Sophia's ultimate fall from grace- the thing that she can't take back. I feel ever more strongly that Patricia will try to put a stop to it. Something is going to happen (maybe a threesome with Sophia, Ellie, and Patricia) that is going to shock Patricia and cause her to do a 180 as she realizes just how corrupted Sophia has become. Patricia is going to be the first to understand that Sophia is on a one way road to ruin.

This game is possibly the great AVN game ever made. It has significant potential for audience and therefore customers to expand. What you're saying about point of diminishing returns is absolutely accurate and true, however, it applies only to CURRENT fans that have been following the project. Should this game expand into different platforms (i.e., Steam) that cohort of fans would not experience diminishing returns as their perspective of the game would still be in the investment phase.

L&P is going to be A-okay milking this game whether we like it or not.

He's suffering from diminishing returns not because of how the fans feel, but because he's putting in greater and greater effort for every release, but not seeing a proportional increase in the quality of the product.

 

[Deleted member 1857423]

does l&p uses blender or character creator 3 with iclone 7.2? pure curiosity...

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Which is why I think that when Sophia cheats with someone it will be devesting for Liam but can you imagine the pain/hurt/anger he will feel when Liam discovers that Sophia has also cheated on him with his own flesh and blood,betrayed by his family.
Which is also why I think that the final ending will need to be dark to fit the deed aa this is not just simple cheating.

I agree that it will be sad, but not necessarily dark. I don't want to see a game of suicide or anything that fatalistic. But divorce and ruined reputation seem unavoidable.