VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[yihman1]

I can answer a few

1. Movers are to come back only towards the end of the game.

2.Musuem guys have their event on playable day 14.

3. Principal, well he is not doing much as it is. Sophia already has Aiden, Bennett and Janitor at school, so that would be too much to even give a proper route to the principal. Plus his role has mostly been towards just being there because the school needs a principal and someone Sophia can complain to

4. Janitor too will have a scene later in the game.

5. The thugs are not necessarily freely roaming. You have the option to get them arrested and they are arrested, also the option to take Patricia and the option to do nothing. If you do nothing they will have another scene later on in the game, again mostly towards the end.

6. Neil is very old friend, so most likely she just accepted it as his first mistake and made it clear never to do it again. Plus Neil wasn't liked by the audience much, so he is not going to have anything Major anymore.

7. Do we really need to care about his gf. That's just going way off track. It is similar to thinking excessively about Marie's bf. No one cares about them and them haven't had role, most likely never will. Recently someone mentioned Alyssa ex boyfriend, we don't need to care for these characters.

8. Mr. Murray will have a scene later as well. You have to realise. The story has not come close to it's end.

9. Ellie's friends to appear in the game. Firstly one was there with Julia, now we also have Christine in the next event on Ellie Dylan route. They had a sleepover but at Christine's house. In future who knows there could be one at the Parker's house too.

10. The gym storyline shifted to Vicky,and in that event it was more like a choice. If you don't choose Patricia there, you miss out on the Patricia route, Ellie route, just for that one little scene. Plus wanting to see more of them is only your personal choice, I couldn't care less for them.

Frankly this is no point in the story to talk about there being Unresolved plot points and lack of resolved storylines. The story is presently at not even 30-35% of its entirety. It is just way too presumptuous to call the story having loose ends when there's so much still be told.

Right, the problem is though that the minor characters must compete against the major characters for development time, and there is a massive number of them. Think of the Simpsons.

What are the odds of us getting a Mr. Burns, Moe, Apu, Flanders, or Krusty their very own episode when Bart and Lisa are still wanting and very much needing their own episodes? On the one hand, it is world-building and that is great, but at the same time, it takes away from the core characters to some degree.

 

[Old Dog]

Let's move on to the main dish

Liam doesn't go straight to Cathy's, he goes home first.
Sophia changes clothes. You have two choices: strip like KillJoys says or go downstairs and wait for Liam in the backyard.

Sophia's clothes, if we have some action in the back of the house this is how Sophia will be dressed and it doesn't give Sam much freedom of movement.

If Liam does go home first(it could happen)then Liam could disturbs Sam/Sophia in the car so maybe touching or a show of breasts which would maybe level him up to Dylan's progress,heck even Aiden has touched Sophia's breasts
In my opinion this would be a let down as Ellie/Julia/Alyssa are still way a head of anybody else,the guys are slipping while the gals are playing

 

[nexer]

This mirror is in front of a door, somewhat improvised her position.

Why did L&P put the mirror there?

I think Liam brought something for Cathy and she's going to try on clothes in front of everyone.

That way Sophia will notice Liam's interest in Cathy. Let's not forget that Sophia hasn't noticed anything yet.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Right, the problem is though that the minor characters must compete against the major characters for development time, and there is a massive number of them. Think of the Simpsons.

What are the odds of us getting a Mr. Burns, Moe, Apu, Flanders, or Krusty their very own episode when Bart and Lisa are still wanting and very much needing their own episodes? On the one hand, it is world-building and that is great, but at the same time, it takes away from the core characters to some degree.

Most of these characters in this list are just going to make one or two more appearance. Thinking realistically we don't meet every single person we know everyday but that also does not mean that we only interact with the same people every single day. Some characters only being able to come back once or twice during the time span of the game ( 30 days ) is very believable. A working woman, going around doing jobs and taking care of things even outside house is bound have a decent number of people she interacts with, not everyone will even get to have a steamy scene with Sophia. Like for example the initial event with principal might not lead anywhere, just like a lot of interactions in real life lead nowhere, they happen once and that's the end of them.

 

[nexer]

If Liam does go home first(it could happen)then Liam could disturbs Sam/Sophia in the car so maybe touching or a show of breasts which would maybe level him up to Dylan's progress.
In my opinion this would be a let down

I'd go two ways:
1. car and striptease
2. car and backyard

 

[Old Dog]

I'd go two ways:
1. car and striptease
2. car and backyard

Car and Sophia pleasuring herself while Sam watched as Sam does need a boost.
I think that only 3 people have touched Sophia's breasts(males), Subway thigs/Aiden and Liam.
Females Julia/Ellie/Patricia

 

[palmtrees89]

This F95 community won't be affected right? Will we still get the part II or does this means the end of road for us after v0.150?

I don't think thats gonna be a big issue. I'm not an expert, but I'd think that some uploader who is also subscribed to L&P would either download the latest event via "ingame tool", pack it up and upload the full game, or somehow extract only the new files from the game's folder which we would have to manually place wherever they belong.

That is if L&P can even manage to somehow program a tool that would require a Patreon login within the game to then grant access to the new files, otherwise everyone could simply update it on their own I guess? It's not like you have to be logged in on your Patreon account to start a new game or anything, or atleast I'd hope so. But even if that was the case, there's always someone who'd manage to crack it.

Edit: Just imagine if this was actually the end of the road. I feel like it would backfire like crazy, since all the free PR from F95 and other sources would be pretty much nonexistent if that happened.

 

[Alley_Cat]

This mirror is in front of a door, somewhat improvised her position.

Why did L&P put the mirror there?

I think Liam brought something for Cathy and she's going to try on clothes in front of everyone.

That way Sophia will notice Liam's interest in Cathy. Let's not forget that Sophia hasn't noticed anything yet.
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L&P didn't put the mirror there, the vendor did.

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Old Dog]

I don't think thats gonna be a big issue. I'm not an expert, but I'd think that some uploader who is also subscribed to L&P would either download the latest event via "ingame tool", pack it up and upload the full game, or somehow extract only the new files from the game's folder which we would have to manually place wherever they belong.

That is if L&P can even manage to somehow program a tool that would require a Patreon login within the game to then grant access to the new files, otherwise everyone could simply update it on their own I guess? It's not like you have to be logged in on your Patreon account to start a new game or anything, or atleast I'd hope so. But even if that was the case, there's always someone who'd manage to crack it.

The actual game AwAm is not posted on his Patron page as he has another webpage(not connected) where you have to log in to download the game

 

[Old Dog]

L&P didn't put the mirror there, the vendor did.

You must be registered to see the links

It is still a horrible mirror just like the one in the Parkers bedroom

 

[nexer]

L&P didn't put the mirror there, the vendor did.

You must be registered to see the links

Ok, thanks.
Fuck

 

[palmtrees89]

The actual game AwAm is not posted on his Patron page as he has another webpage(not connected) where you have to log in to download the game

You are right. Well, essentially the same outcome though.

 

[Old Dog]

'O' eck.
The Village People just came on the radio and I am singing along I really need to get out more

 

[razvy09]

I don't think thats gonna be a big issue. I'm not an expert, but I'd think that some uploader who is also subscribed to L&P would either download the latest event via "ingame tool", pack it up and upload the full game, or somehow extract only the new files from the game's folder which we would have to manually place wherever they belong.

That is if L&P can even manage to somehow program a tool that would require a Patreon login within the game to then grant access to the new files, otherwise everyone could simply update it on their own I guess? It's not like you have to be logged in on your Patreon account to start a new game or anything, or atleast I'd hope so. But even if that was the case, there's always someone who'd manage to crack it.

I think it would be perfectly normal as long we play a game to do a subscription and support the dev/creator.
But I personally did it since first time i've played the game. But for almost 1 year DEV only came with endless excuses, issues, problems and I just got tired of this pattern and I cancelled my subscription.
Even if the game will start to continue with update this year, I wont subscribe again for 1 patch per year. I'll just wait couple months to see if DEV is taking game serious and update regularly.


I remember the game View of a family, probably almost all of us played it and liked it so much. There dev did same thing, disappeared for 1 year then came with 1 update. Then disappeared forever and people were milked for their money for 2 years while the game never continued... sad story and I REALLY HOPE to dont happen to this game. I love this game!

 

[nexer]

L&P didn't put the mirror there, the vendor did.

You must be registered to see the links

We also have the luggage. So, no clue

 

[Old Dog]

I want Sophia to "shoot to thrill" so Sam is "thunderstruck" in this event

 

[Alley_Cat]

We also have the luggage. So, no clue

Something else I noticed ... where is the bathroom?

 

[Old Dog]

Something else I noticed ... where is the bathroom?

Great another asset to add on to the asset

 

[Michael Rawson]

Maybe the travel suitcase is Liam's, because it is beside Liam, and I think the travel trolley duffel bag is definitely Liam's. I mean, it could be Cathy's wedding dress, I think Liam may have brought it with him to hand it to Cathy with her own hand.

Liam might have brought her wedding dresses to impress Cathy

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

My biggest complaint about this game if I am going to be totally fair is the massive number of open minor story arcs. This game has more loose ends to keep track of than any other game out there. Many of these arcs have gone untouched for even years as well. I'll give some examples of some early Arcs that have been on the back burners for years:

1) The Movers: Those guys literally sat down and ate breakfast with Sophia and she had a long ass talk with them. Then they were just gone... Never to be seen again.

2) The Museum Guys: Sophia and her sister Patricia literally gave their numbers to these guys. They NEVER called? Are they dead or in the hospital?

3) Pervert Principal: At one point that principal let his finger linger on Sophia's butt crack. That sort of sexual harassment just died off then and there? Unlikely.

4) The Janitor: Dudes sleeping at the school, and Sophia went there to shower once and stared at his black cock. She has given him a dirty look a time or two since then, but that's about it.

5) The Subway Rapists: Those dudes are still on the prowl. That was partially closed when Sophia's sister shot her gun at them and got revenge, but the "Bad ending" version of that is still very much open. Going off of the shit they were talking about before Sophia got the revenge they are dangerous guys.

6) Neil drugged Sophia and tried to have his way with her. That's it? That doesn't go anywhere? That's her neighbor. That's Sam's dad.

7) Aiden has an established girlfriend (Jennifer). She has gotten such a minor role as of now it's a joke.

8) Mr Murray the postman: He has been established as a character, but nothing goes anywhere with him ever.

9) Ellies Friends From Dance Class: She had a few cute girlfriends in there. It's like they should of had a sleepover or stopped or something by now, and also Ellies dance stuff has seemed to hit the back burner as well.

10) Ryan the fitness instructor guy, and the guys at the gym: It just seems like this should have more content than it does.

All these minor open arcs I just pointed out. At least a couple of years old with no progress on any of them in ages. Some of them will surely become.


By a story arc I mean:
1) Build Up,
2) Climax
3) Resolution.

Many are still at point 1.


TL;DR Muh blue balls

As of right now, the scenes of the minor cast only serve one purpose right now... Corruption points, nothing else really and some story fillers to pass the time. I doubt the will have many other scenes ahead in the novel maybe 2 or 3 more, but that's about it. They are pretty much just "one-and-done" cast members. I think he could have put more emphasis on LI and Lust's Character Development.