VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[coffeeaddicted]

I supported it because of the erotism. I quit supporting because of Dev. And there many reasons.

Its a novella of erotic, perhaps. After all the time, it is kind of clear that the game was never intended to be a sex game. Its a game about dialogs and innuendo and choices.
I think the dev was more ambitious than what can be delivered. To me the tags are all confusing because if you look at incest, you will not find much on it.
The black mail part is mostly a tease without any action. So you are waiting for over 6 years to get some action.
I think there are some games that want to tell a story, a real story but are lost in a direction. So you end up with lots of dialogs to support an outcome.
Not sure if there is a scene for the museum, but i said yes, lets meet up. Never happened.
To me, the game is a let down. If it ever will be finished, it will probably not have a lot of sex.
Even the story ark with the mafia boss could have been something, but it seems that mafia bosses are actually nice people. Very understanding people. So no luck there.
Again, some teasing but thats about it. But i realized early on that i am not the audience for that game. Especially if you are looking for some fapping action. So maybe its fine after all.

 

[Johnysilver771]

wtf meeting Aiden is next... When Dylan comes home from the boarding school for the weekend event?? i am waiting for contet with Amber-Dylan

 

[itsjasey]

Same argument same positions after every update. Every one has the right to have his own opinion about the game . But there is one fact that we all should know that this game was designed from the beginning to be an erotic slow building story with realistic approach. Requesting sex is out of context and against the basic theme of this game . Sex must come in the right time . The game is full of eroticism ( lesbian, mom son , teacher students etc).
Let's be patient and let's enjoy this unique game which has the best renders and the best story line .
I am sure starting from next update the game will be ( hot ).

May I advise to the developer that a DOG model be created? I'm experiencing trust issues with Sophia's family because she doesn't have a pet. I understand that it may take him a year to complete it, but fuck it, it will give it a realistic approach like animation.

 

[Ass Fan]

Hi everyone, I've been thinking about this part of Sophia wanting to get pregnant again I've been imagining her getting pregnant with some of these Dylan/Sam/Zac/Aiden characters
Or Larry if there's continuation what she did in prison for him of course. I don't know whether or not there will be this "option in future plans of Lust & Passion" but it's something that should be working, at least for me this Pregnancy route is something very interesting for the gam.

 

[dolfe67]

I played DOL and there are none of the animations that the guy is referring to, wrong place for that comment.

There's some kind of irony in L&P's patreon, because the patrons are supporting him because of AWAM but they aren't allowed to express their opinions regarding AWAM explicitly.

Haha what can people find to justify LP deleting that post

He should remove this tier then:

 

[Cleptoman]

L&Ps answer to Randy

 

[Sadowdark]

next update Aiden explains the new task and sophia has to choose. stop. if I were L&P I would do nothing else and I would just release the update immediately to try the new update function

Next update: Sophia and Aiden meet. Aiden lets Andre get revenge on Sophia. And there will be a choice. A. Don Morell's men are coming, and maybe he is. No more blackmail. B. Jenifer will help Sophia. C. Continue your revenge Andre and Aiden will tell Sophia about the fifth task.

 

[dolfe67]

L&Ps answer to Randy

Yeah message too long for patreon

Also he doesn't delete comments unless they don't include some inappropriate words?

 

[kevin19997]

L&Ps answer to Randy

if i am wrong then correct me, but did he not told us in mid march, that without animations the game would have already released by mid january?

 

[lockerxx]

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[sept0342]

So, let's make some counts. As far as we know, 0.161 won't have any animations. So it's the 200% for the creation and rendering + the P&T part.

At 10% per day, it will take him 20 days for them both to reach 100% (and they are already at 10%). P&T will take like a week or less. So, I'll say a month. It's just an estimation because I don't think we'll get 10% a day.

 

[XaGnard]

If he starts going straight to sex scenes. This game or the dev story is ruined. Its supposed to be about eroticism, slow corruption, slow burn. The issue is the slow development updates and now those long update cycles have even less content. The game itself was a terrific slow burn. Probably the best one out there, but now it looks like developer burn out.

If I was newbie here. I would give this game 5 stars, but after all the above stated issues. Its more of a 3 star and falling more and more with each delay.

L&P could be much further along with his main stories if he didn't waste so much time the side stories. L&P could certainly delete 50% of the content and the game would play more coherently and smoothly.

 

[lockerxx]

Progress Report Ver. 0.161.

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is moving!!(sorry i miss it)

 

[Turret]

L&P could be much further along with his main stories if he didn't waste so much time the side stories. L&P could certainly delete 50% of the content and the game would play more coherently and smoothly.

Yes, he could, but then he would even more cut into his supply of believable lies why development is so slow. L&P is delieberately stalling development and a compulsive liar. If you read some of his answers here and on patreon, you can see quickly how he wiggles around and how messages change from day to day, depending what helps him more.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

6 years and still practically no porn in a porn game. I don't understand why people are still supporting this. Is it just the sunk cost, or what?

It is not a "porn game" - it is an erotic VN.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

First lesbian sex scene is on PD 15.So probably 2-3 years away.
First and second hetero sex scenes are on PD 16.Maybe 3-4 years away.

My guess
PD 15-1st lesbian-must be Sophia/Patricia.Unless the dev decide to troll us and make it Patricia/her friend
PD 16-1st hetero
PD 16-2nd hetero
-probably one will be Ellie/Logan,after all we will have at least 4 events with Ellie on PD 16
-Sophia/Sam
-or Dylan/any girl except Sophia and Ellie.
PD 16-2nd lesbian-Sophia/Ellie or Ellie/Julia
PD 17-3rd lesbian-maybe the scene we didn't get on PD 16.Sophia/Ellie or Ellie/Julia.
PD 19-4th lesbian-Sophia/Nathalie?Or Sophia/Alyssa?

Given that PD 19 = Tuesday, and Alyssa next appearance in the game is that Tuesday, and L&P himself describs this as a "lesbian sex(ual)" scene, and finally that Alyssa won't have appeared in game for approx 6-7 days (from memory) and thus will have missed a lot of the faster corruption that other potential LI's will have received in that time as the speed of corruption has noticeably increased in the last couple of days. For all those reasons I am convinced that it is Sophia and Alyssa.

In fact I think all SIX of those sex / sexual scenes will involve Sophia, albeit potentially spread across many different routes (so you will need multiple saves to get them all. Otherwise L&P could have talked about the "first " hetero sex scne to be the one in the last update of Jenn and Andre / Aiden.

So any sex scenes between the likes of Ellie/Logan and Ellie/Julia should be additional bonus scenes and not the six scenes that we expect include Sophia. That is assuming we can still take L&P's statement last November 2021 at face value.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

All the scenes that don’t concern Sophia, don’t interest me.

"We are sure she is not in first lesbian sex scenes."
!????
I didn’t see this information... for me Emma is an important character

Emma is a secondary or even tertiary character.

Ellie / Patricia / Alyssa are IMO the three main female LI's, and I believe that is backup up by their high positions in BOTH the character polls that L&P has run.

Then after that I would personnally place both Nathalie and Julia ahead of Emma - they have both had a good feel of Sophia's boobs and got Sophia all hot and bothered.

At best IMO Emma would be in third tier of potential female LI's with likes of Amber, Cathy, Marie and Vicky - they COULD be a potential female LI but are more likely to feature either as LI for Dylan or on swinger route.

So off the top of my head I can think of nine female potential LI's that I personally would prefer to see having sex with Sophia ahead of Emma. But that is ok if you hav a different opinion.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

So, let's make some counts. As far as we know, 0.161 won't have any animations. So it's the 200% for the creation and rendering + the P&T part.

At 10% per day, it will take him 20 days for them both to reach 100% (and they are already at 10%). P&T will take like a week or less. So, I'll say a month. It's just an estimation because I don't think we'll get 10% a day.

And that is [reciely the nub of the issue. If this is going to be a short uodate then it MUST be completed in around 4-5 weeks. Because larger updates with more render will naturally take longet to complete.

IF L&P continues to aim at 10 updates per in game Playable Day, then if we had two large updates taking an average of two months each, and eight small updates taking an average of one month each, that would result in roughly one in game Playable Day taking one year in real life development update time.

If he does nt hit that target for shorter updates, then we are looking at shockingly more than one year in real life for every in game Playable Day.....

 

[armion82]

Given that PD 19 = Tuesday, and Alyssa next appearance in the game is that Tuesday, and L&P himself describs this as a "lesbian sex(ual)" scene, and finally that Alyssa won't have appeared in game for approx 6-7 days (from memory) and thus will have missed a lot of the faster corruption that other potential LI's will have received in that time as the speed of corruption has noticeably increased in the last couple of days. For all those reasons I am convinced that it is Sophia and Alyssa.

In fact I think all SIX of those sex / sexual scenes will involve Sophia, albeit potentially spread across many different routes (so you will need multiple saves to get them all. Otherwise L&P could have talked about the "first " hetero sex scne to be the one in the last update of Jenn and Andre / Aiden.

So any sex scenes between the likes of Ellie/Logan and Ellie/Julia should be additional bonus scenes and not the six scenes that we expect include Sophia. That is assuming we can still take L&P's statement last November 2021 at face value.

It is possible that the decision to add Jennifer/Andre/Ayden scene,was after he posted the future plans.Probably to calm down the crowd and deflect any accusations for no sex scenes except Sophia/Liam.
The problem is that he was using the words with important character.Not a single mention of Sophia.
I am pretty sure because not all scenes will include Sophia.Not to mention I doubt there will be 3 sex scenes with Sophia on the same day-PD16.
Hell it is possible that half or even more of the scenes will be without Sophia.
Just imagine this
Patricia/her friend
Ellie/Julia
Ellie/Logan
Dylan/Amber or Dylan/Emma or Dylan/Christine
Ellie /Sophia
Sophia/Alyssa

And that is [reciely the nub of the issue. If this is going to be a short uodate then it MUST be completed in around 4-5 weeks. Because larger updates with more render will naturally take longet to complete.

IF L&P continues to aim at 10 updates per in game Playable Day, then if we had two large updates taking an average of two months each, and eight small updates taking an average of one month each, that would result in roughly one in game Playable Day taking one year in real life development update time.

If he does nt hit that target for shorter updates, then we are looking at shockingly more than one year in real life for every in game Playable Day.....

I can't believe we will get only 2 big events per day.Unless you are forgetting also for 2 massive events(500+ renders) of course.

 

[armion82]

All the scenes that don’t concern Sophia, don’t interest me.

"We are sure she is not in first lesbian sex scenes."
!????
I didn’t see this information... for me Emma is an important character

The first lesbian sex scenes will be on PD 15.At that day Sophia and Patricia will be alone with Patricia's friend.
So no way Emma to be in the first lesbian sex scene.