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I would not like to go into a useless discussion, but there are 2-3 "old" and consistent defenders of the author on the forum who justify him, no matter how clumsily the update looks. But if the Old Dog argues stylishly, even elegantly, sometimes citing very unexpected arguments, then Sabretooth rushes at any critic like a soldier with a knife on a tank. His actions are similar to the attempts of the owner of a car dealership to sell customers a bicycle instead of a paid Bentley, convincing that this is more useful and environmentally friendly.
Does Sabretooth seriously believe that the presented version of the gang event is logical and complete. That a crowd of sexually mature males, inflamed by the sexuality, pliability and defenselessness of the victim, would let her go at Aiden's command. Ha ha 3 times. They would have groped her until she burst into hysterics, and sent her home without stockings and panties with bruises and hickeys all over her body, having previously examined all her technological holes with their fingers. And this would be a logical and more realistic conclusion to this plot, despite all its absurdity. Since in such gangs authority rests either on strength or on fear. What does Aiden represent for these men, strength or fear? As I said earlier, the author shows a lack of logic not only in the game as a whole, but also in each of the main scenes. Of course, you can refer to the fact that this is a parody of porn anime for little boys with big dicks. But by this you agree that this product is absurd and the complete lack of logic to the detriment of a beautiful picture.
Does Sabretooth seriously believe that the presented version of the gang event is logical and complete. That a crowd of sexually mature males, inflamed by the sexuality, pliability and defenselessness of the victim, would let her go at Aiden's command. Ha ha 3 times. They would have groped her until she burst into hysterics, and sent her home without stockings and panties with bruises and hickeys all over her body, having previously examined all her technological holes with their fingers. And this would be a logical and more realistic conclusion to this plot, despite all its absurdity. Since in such gangs authority rests either on strength or on fear. What does Aiden represent for these men, strength or fear? As I said earlier, the author shows a lack of logic not only in the game as a whole, but also in each of the main scenes. Of course, you can refer to the fact that this is a parody of porn anime for little boys with big dicks. But by this you agree that this product is absurd and the complete lack of logic to the detriment of a beautiful picture.
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Calm down brother, feel the fabric.
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All I'll say is that there is enough fact given in the game showing Aiden's command over the guys. Aiden has strength in the form of actual criminal gangs mentioned "In the game" not my assumption. The police refuse to do anything to him. The guy was carrying a gun and yet he dare not defy Aiden. Aiden rules them and it has been clear. Nothing in the game contradicts that at any point. They all leave immediately as Aiden says during the day 16 scene and we see that happen here again. The black guy says he would have raped her, the only thing that prevented him from doing that was Aiden's command. So
All of what I mentioned is in the game and so there is no break in logic. What you have stated is headcannon that the guys should have done whatever you mentioned. That is your idea and nothing in the game backs that idea of yours.
I never reviewed the scene here. My honest opinions on the scene are
1. The scene doesn't move the plot, and is just fan service maybe because Aiden route is not coming back anytime soon. It does give more info about how dangerous the guys are and have weapons.
2. The writing was sub par, definitely not the best he can do. The scene was hot nevertheless but that had more to do with his art and not his writing skill.
3. The gang members should have been more rough but not like you described. Which brings me back to the fan service point. I can understand L&P's reason for holding back as an actual rough portrayal would have been too much at this stage of the game. A scene like this should have happened later in the game. L&P did force the scene here. But since it was too early. He gave it a more softer portrayal. Not the best idea.
In short the scene should have been a little more rougher for realism sake not as outrageous as you say. It won't be necessary. L&P should have waited on making this scene so he could do more justice to scenario he built.
I'm old, literally so & a fan of the game/VN but I try to be objective when it comes to AWAM. I said all of this & a lot more, in various posts at the time of the update. I also had to point out, in all honesty however, that I had witnessed a woman walk away unscathed from such a scenario, in my youth, over 50 years ago. Even RL gangs can behave in an unexpected way. People don't always do the obvious things. Despite this, I agree that the scenario you describe would have been the more probable outcome & outlined why several times.
It would have had some logic, had it been a task but realism & logic are in short supply with AWAM these days. This game has fans of all ages but IMO is currently & for some time past, aimed at a young demographic, i.e. the scene was schoolboy wish fulfilment fantasy/wanking material. This follows on & is consistent with, Sophia's expanding breasts, Dylan being made an official second MC & the introduction of the shota boys.
Ironically, though the gang scene was inserted primarily in order to let Don Morello's soldiers do their work, thus putting an end to Aiden's activities, (& having also played this scene I thought it was quite satisfactory for most blackmail haters), those who chose not to dispense with Aiden may also not see him again. He is due back on PD16, which I calculate is 5 years away at current production rates. It could well be that the gang HQ meeting was a "big send-off" for the teenage miscreant.
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Oh, come on people! Name me one damn porn game or porn movie that has anything to do with realism. Every actor and every situation is exaggerated. It starts with the fact that the women and girls of the body measurements are always from a model catalog and with waists that are even more exaggerated. That means, if you complain about the lack of realism, you have to call not only for a cross against L&P, but against the whole porn industry. And, let's not kid ourselves, if we won and hard realism entered such productions, the porn industry would be boring as hell.
This is an open forum in which everyone can repeatedly say his opinion. Even if you can not follow the arguments or do not want to follow. Who does not like it can certainly set up a closed discussion channel on Discord in which only invited guests can come.
As for Sabertooth_, he is also just a member here in this forum what his opinion, emphatically, represents. One can follow his argumentation or reject it. What makes Sabertooth_ in my opinion again and again to the target is that he simply always tries to have the last word. (Forgive Sabertooth_, but that's how I see it). Discussions with him can often only be ended by not replying to his last post or by replying with an icon. But that does not mean that his opinions, which he represents are wrong or inappropriate.
This is an open forum in which everyone can repeatedly say his opinion. Even if you can not follow the arguments or do not want to follow. Who does not like it can certainly set up a closed discussion channel on Discord in which only invited guests can come.
As for Sabertooth_, he is also just a member here in this forum what his opinion, emphatically, represents. One can follow his argumentation or reject it. What makes Sabertooth_ in my opinion again and again to the target is that he simply always tries to have the last word. (Forgive Sabertooth_, but that's how I see it). Discussions with him can often only be ended by not replying to his last post or by replying with an icon. But that does not mean that his opinions, which he represents are wrong or inappropriate.
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If I had to take a guess, I'd say he's working on another animation. Might be Amber's apron being felt up by Dylan. We can't waste any fabric, guys.
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I don't think so, he said this event wouldn't have any animation.
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Oh, I did miss that information. Well, then he's just been lazy.
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Hello guys, I wanted to ask if it seems to me, or after the developer's statement that the game will be released faster, it began to come out even slower than before?
Not to mention it took 3 or 4 days to see a 5% increase when he’s working on a single scene… not very credible that’s for sure!
Realism was an avowed aim of AWAM from day 1 & there was absolutely no need whatsoever to dilute the level that was achieved in the early days. Attempting a sense of realism was one of the aspects of L&P's production that made it a cut above the average. This veneer of realism was not that of a soap opera, or in the "kitchen sink drama" style but was rather along the lines of the 'realistic' weathering on vehicles in Star Wars films, where strange fictional stuff might be happening on distant worlds but at least it looks believable. That's not boring IMO. What is excruciatingly boring is the endless parade of nymphos, bimbos, simple one-track minded horny sons lusting after their own mothers, the beach-ball smuggling "Moms" themselves, racial stereotypes, e.g. how many more BBCs?, hideously bad bosses, horse-cocks & 'inner thoughts' along the lines of, "why does this feel so good, when I know it's so wrong?" There are many more choice standard "items" but suffice to say, no wonder I've deleted all but 2 or 3 3D porn games.
3D Porn today has descended into an unimaginative abyss where characters have become stereotyped & exaggerated. They even tend to follow certain repetitive patterns of behaviour, so much so that some could be interchangeable between games, without any appreciable hiccup. Sadly, by now, it seems this is what 'the public' expects & on occasion, even demands, because it's familiar & probably comforting in some odd way. I would contend that there are many members of 'the public' who do not require these things. There are others amongst 'the public', like me, who would count it fortunate if they never saw any more. Repetitiveness was another good reason to delete numerous games. It's all about consumer, (even pirate consumer) choice.
AWAM arrived in this melee like an innovative example of "The New." It began to show what could be achieved in the 3D porn genre, if a Dev was prepared to raise his game. Quality of renders was outstanding & the writing ranged between acceptable & good. Even stock 3D porn characters were made more interesting & engaging. Patricia was/is a case in point, being more than just another 'too sexy' Aunt figure but someone with her own personality & back-story. This approach was apparent for most of the main actors. People cared about the characters & their stories/routes. Fans became involved with the VN. Indeed, 'the future looked bright, the future looked AWAM.'
So, what the hell happened? We all think we know. What I think I know would take another too long post & would be a marginally bigger waste of time than my above comments.
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Finally is moving again
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Must be full sex scenes.
Otherwise he definitely will use other words.And won't even mention other sexual activities as HJ,BJ,TJ.
Let's not forget he promised we will get hetero sex scenes before day 20.
And accoridng to his plan PD 16 is the only possibility.
Of course the way he was using the words(not saying Sophia and instead important character) imply that at least one of the scenes is maybe not with Sophia aka Ellie/Logan.Or If he wants to finish the route-Amber/Dylan.
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How many porn movies claim to have realism though? It's only that "realism" and "class" are two of the stated claims of the game. One of the first games I played from this forum was Timestamps, because I like time-travel stories. Since time-travel is, last I checked only theoretical, it made no claims to realism. I didn't get far enough into the game to confirm, but it starts to imply as the game unfolds that the MC might be his own father. Which is genetically impossible.
DDoS is similar. We just got confirmation recently that the MC is being influenced by a demon. So you'll never get me complaining that the game is realistic like I do with AWAM.