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palmtrees89

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One thing I want to mention... If the update has 250 renders, and the progress bar is at 95% created scenes, meaning the remaining 5% make for 12,5 renders? And that's what is taking him another 2+ weeks? Well, including photoshop+translation/programming. Still, doesn't that make it kinda obvious how the progress bars are completely useless and not representing at all the current progression? Or am I missing something..

~4 weeks for 95%, and ~2 weeks for 5% + photoshop/translation? lol
 

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One thing I want to mention... If the update has 250 renders, and the progress bar is at 95% created scenes, meaning the remaining 5% make for 12,5 renders? And that's what is taking him another 2 weeks? Well, including photoshop+translation/programming. Still, doesn't that make it kinda obvious how the progress bars are completely useless and not representing at all the current progression? Or am I missing something..
He does have to make Frodo look pretty and that is a big job :ROFLMAO:
 

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The progress seems to stagnate a bit. It's because the end part of the scene with Dylan and Amber takes a little bit more time and is a little bit more extensive than expected.

Content of 0.165: Over 250 renders and 9 pages of text. No animation this time.

Release time span: Approx between 6th and 12th of July.
my guess is that

he is not satisfied with his own script
and is making changes at the end

at start the speed was really good and now when its about to finish the update its slow as snail just because update is 250+ renders
it dosent make sense
 

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The progress seems to stagnate a bit. It's because the end part of the scene with Dylan and Amber takes a little bit more time and is a little bit more extensive than expected.

Content of 0.165: Over 250 renders and 9 pages of text. No animation this time.

Release time span: Approx between 6th and 12th of July.
250? wow big event!!!
 
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Yeah, we'll see if it really is "250+", or more like 120 with an arm or leg raised here and there. :LOL:
Now now, L&P has been doing this all along.
I sense where this is going, you said the other day that L&P has slowed down(which is obvious) and some other member also showed a data about his sluggish speed which is actually a fair criticism. Now that we know that the update has over 250 renders, which means his speed has increased a little bit and that also means there will be some duplicated renders like Old dog said. But when you make statements like this, it seems like you are desperate to criticize the dev and so you are nitpicking on every move he makes.

But L&P has always done duplicating his renders and altering them a little bit. So my point is, no need to bring this up as it is something new.
 
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NykWolf

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WOW 250 renders what a massive update,I wonder how many renders are duplicated.
So now we get 5 minutes play time 'O' the excitement
So much minutes for us? I think that there will be 1 minutes because we don't have Dylan :D :D


It will piss me off because I don’t want to contemplate, let alone see, never mind twiddle my thumbs while we wait for, Ellie and Logan.
And you know what is the big joke? If you wanna Let Logan out.. You must play Dylan route.. :FacePalm: Seriously this scene could be like for Dylan so for Sophie too.
 

palmtrees89

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Now now, L&P has doing this all along.
I sense where this is going, you said the other day that L&P has slowed down(which is obvious) and some other member also showed a data about his sluggish speed which is actually a fair criticism. Now that we know that the update has over 250 renders, which means his speed has increased a little bit and that also means there will be some duplicated renders like Old dog said. But when you make statements like this, it seems like you are desperate to criticize the dev and so you are nitpicking on every move he makes.

But L&P has always done duplicating his renders and altering them a little bit. So my point is, no need to bring this up as it is something new.
Sorry, but that's not correct. Sure, I tend to be sceptical when it comes to L&P and his updates, but the issue with duplicated renders had been mentioned and pointed out months ago when he's released 0.155+0.160. There had been several people noticing it, here on F95 aswell as on Patreon. The reason was simply because of the huge delay caused by animations back then, L&P's statements and the results we got, which raised some eyebrows as it seemed like the actual unique render count dropped considerably. Some theories have it that it's because he was lying about having someone creating his animations, so reducing his work on unique renders bought more time for him to work on his new addition to the game.

Sure, you can call it nitpicking, but after the constant downward spiral over the years, it's hard to see the positive. You are right, he's slightly faster compared to the previous 3 updates, which I've also mentioned, but he's still slower compared to 0.150 from last year. Let's just hope he can atleast keep this pace for now, because I'm not expecting much in terms of development speed at this point. I'm a pirate for AWAM anyways, so expecting anything might sound a bit entitled, but you get what I mean.
 

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One thing I want to mention... If the update has 250 renders, and the progress bar is at 95% created scenes, meaning the remaining 5% make for 12,5 renders? And that's what is taking him another 2+ weeks? Well, including photoshop+translation/programming. Still, doesn't that make it kinda obvious how the progress bars are completely useless and not representing at all the current progression? Or am I missing something..

~4 weeks for 95%, and ~2 weeks for 5% + photoshop/translation? lol
The progress bar doesn't take into account any free time that he might be taking during development either. Unless he announces that he's taking free time, we would have to assume that he bounces between the two.
 
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The progress seems to stagnate a bit. It's because the end part of the scene with Dylan and Amber takes a little bit more time and is a little bit more extensive than expected.

Content of 0.165: Over 250 renders and 9 pages of text. No animation this time.

Release time span: Approx between 6th and 12th of July.
Just an excuse for a 10 day vacation in the summer. The first of many ;)
 

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One thing I want to mention... If the update has 250 renders, and the progress bar is at 95% created scenes, meaning the remaining 5% make for 12,5 renders? And that's what is taking him another 2+ weeks? Well, including photoshop+translation/programming. Still, doesn't that make it kinda obvious how the progress bars are completely useless and not representing at all the current progression? Or am I missing something..

~4 weeks for 95%, and ~2 weeks for 5% + photoshop/translation? lol
In his message he has written "over" 250 renders.

So Mathematically more accurate assumption would be, say that 95% definitely represents 250 renders. That means 100% will be 263 renders. Though even this just our assumption. Since L&P himself never knows his final render count until he completes the scene.

In General - what intrigues me is why is the last bit so technically difficult in comparison to everything in the scene till now. And surprisingly it lasts even till the last 5% of the scene which should generally just be wrapping up the scene.

We didn't hear anything like this from L&P during even the Sophia Sam Jacuzzi scene. This one too is supposed to be a 2 character scene.

Unless, it turns out it is Amber's birthday and Neil and Sam planned as surprise party for her. Neil calls over all their friends and enters the house with them only to see Amber with Dylan's dick in her mouth :LOL: . Neil gets a heart attack and an ambulance is called. And suddenly a two character scene became one with 20 characters. Infidelity, Drama, Tears, Comedy, Anger and pigeons looking over as the ambulance takes Neil. What a lovely scene that would be.
 
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Sorry, but that's not correct. Sure, I tend to be sceptical when it comes to L&P and his updates, but the issue with duplicated renders had been mentioned and pointed out months ago when he's released 0.155+0.160. There had been several people noticing it, here on F95 aswell as on Patreon. The reason was simply because of the huge delay caused by animations back then, L&P's statements and the results we got, which raised some eyebrows as it seemed like the actual unique render count dropped considerably. Some theories have it that it's because he was lying about having someone creating his animations, so reducing his work on unique renders bought more time for him to work on his new addition to the game.

Sure, you can call it nitpicking, but after the constant downward spiral over the years, it's hard to see the positive. You are right, he's slightly faster compared to the previous 3 updates, which I've also mentioned, but he's still slower compared to 0.150 from last year. Let's just hope he can atleast keep this pace for now, because I'm not expecting much in terms of development speed at this point. I'm a pirate for AWAM anyways, so expecting anything might sound a bit entitled, but you get what I mean.
I would like to ask you open the CG for scenes like Julia one and Bikini Show, Ellie Sophia Day 17 night time shower, Alyssa Sybian scene. Ellie's masturbation scene. All these scenes will have numerous similiar looking renders. This is nothing new. People have just found a new thing to criticize since they were bored with the previous ones.

Most of these scenes show some sort of motion. For the scenes to flow smoothly you have to also do slower transitions in character movements rather than jerks. We can't have renders like Sophia Ellie in the shower talking and the next render they are out drying themselves and the third render is them outside the Bathroom.

Most porn games do this. Ruins the scene investment, since it feels like people are just time skipping. Changing camera perspectives, expressions based on text, slight changes in poses and so on will inflate the render count but also uplift the quality and make it more natural and life like rather than plastic 3d models

Subtle movements are much more appealing in terms of showing an actual scene move in an engaging manner. The higher render count most of the times has a lot to do with motion and in most cases this higher than common render count elevates Awam's scenes.
 
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