VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[AlfredBundy4]

The focus on the kid's entry to the club cracks me up. Like THAT'S what you focus on as illogical?! Not that he's there with his mom that he's fondling and trying to bang because she isn't exactly denying the advances?
That or the fact that this woman goes hour by hour being molested or seduced by every man in town and then acts like it didn't happen moments later (what is months for everyone IRL between updates).
That or the fact that she can allow her teenage son's friend to make out with her in a hot tub, suck her bare tits in his room, remove her panties in his room but have nothing more happen before going to get a haircut like it's normal?! Lmao

That or how a teenage boy in her class has any power over her whatsoever and runs a gang of what looks like actual adult, hardened thugs?! That's not what people focus on, it's that her son got into a club. Ok.

I'm as tough on L&P as anyone but that's like the least illogical thing he has put into this story. In fact, I myself got into tons of clubs and bars starting at about 16yo. It's not even that hard at most places, tbh.

 

[cjcjcc]

Maybe it's none of their business. Maybe some dudebro like Logan or Tyler just guesses as a way of picking on Dylan trying to get to Sophia.

Either way, it's sus enough that people will talk. Funnily enough, one of the most important things I learnt as part of my dance education is "Women talk". Sophia can only hope that rumours don't get back to the school enough for the principal to investigate.

Yeah ur right women talk, people talk always. there will be some dude but i think dylan will stand for sophia! (maybe it will be our option)
But they are new in city and its big city so there is so little chance someone know who they are!
And we dont know how much club is far from their neighbourhood.
IMO it will be simple event that tney go club and back home without so much mysterious story. They just break the ice more than befor.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Yeah ur right women talk, people talk always. there will be some dude but i think dylan will stand for sophia! (maybe it will be our option)
But they are new in city and its big city so there is so little chance someone know who they are!
And we dont know how much club is far from their neighbourhood.
IMO it will be simple event that tney go club and back home without so much mysterious story. They just break the ice more than befor.

Sophia is expected to speak about the photoshoot and explain why she feels embarrassed. In points currently Dylan is above Sam. In intimacy development below. They should kiss like a real couple and strip off their clothes. Dylan has to reach a happy ending… and there are many options to that…
- HJ
- BJ
- Putting his dick between her legs (no penetration)
- Or by just imagining his interaction with Sophia

Let’s see

 

[Woodalicca]

Sophia is expected to speak about the photoshoot and explain why she feels embarrassed. In points currently Dylan is above Sam. In intimacy development below. They should kiss like a real couple and strip off their clothes. Dylan has to reach a happy ending… and there are many options to that…
- HJ
- BJ
- Putting his dick between her legs (no penetration)
- Or by just imagining his interaction with Sophia

Let’s see

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" ? .Great song, bud. You should listen to it, bookmark it and give it another shot once the update is out Now, don't get me wrong. I'd like to see those things too, but L&P masters the blueball breathing technique since too long and killed every inch of hope in me, leaving only skepticism

 

[lockerxx]

Sophia is expected to speak about the photoshoot and explain why she feels embarrassed. In points currently Dylan is above Sam. In intimacy development below. They should kiss like a real couple and strip off their clothes. Dylan has to reach a happy ending… and there are many options to that…
- HJ
- BJ
- Putting his dick between her legs (no penetration)
- Or by just imagining his interaction with Sophia

Let’s see

my option mutual masturbation or sophie showing her body to dylan while he is playing with himself

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[Kliorkt]

Why are you all bullying developer? It's not a fucking holywood movie or some shit . This game is amazing and the fact that you are mad about all the little things it just shows how important this game is to you. I also love this game, it's probably the best game there is on f95 (trust me I played a lot of them).

I love idea of different jobs, different routes of guys, etc. It's f**king amazing. The slow burning creates amazing tension, just look at this thread how active it is. I wish more game were like this and not some braindead guy fucking whole family after someone just tripping over some shit .

In dev. place I would be hurt seeing such braindead and mean comments (not all mean, some are constructive). Thank you for attention

 

[tofhdns]

We know they are M/S, people in night club dont know what is their realationship!
For the age problem we will get the answer maybe end of this month and what was l&p trick for solving age problem!

The way LP solved Dylan's age problem was to reveal his age through in-game narration.

And he said this.

"Dylan's age is 1X."


Additionally, LP has modified Dylan's face, so his entry into the nightclub may not be a problem for the bouncers.

But for Sophia, it's different.

She is a mother and high school teacher who knows Dylan's age and knows he is a student.

But I think this issue will be ignored in-game.

 

[tofhdns]

" L&P never fails to disappoint "

already....

 

[tofhdns]

The focus on the kid's entry to the club cracks me up. Like THAT'S what you focus on as illogical?! Not that he's there with his mom that he's fondling and trying to bang because she isn't exactly denying the advances?
That or the fact that this woman goes hour by hour being molested or seduced by every man in town and then acts like it didn't happen moments later (what is months for everyone IRL between updates).
That or the fact that she can allow her teenage son's friend to make out with her in a hot tub, suck her bare tits in his room, remove her panties in his room but have nothing more happen before going to get a haircut like it's normal?! Lmao

That or how a teenage boy in her class has any power over her whatsoever and runs a gang of what looks like actual adult, hardened thugs?! That's not what people focus on, it's that her son got into a club. Ok.

I'm as tough on L&P as anyone but that's like the least illogical thing he has put into this story. In fact, I myself got into tons of clubs and bars starting at about 16yo. It's not even that hard at most places, tbh.

What you said has already been criticized.

It's just that the nightclub is being criticized anew for his illogical, stupid, way of telling the story.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Fake ID

 

[tofhdns]

Why are you all bullying developer? It's not a fucking holywood movie or some shit . This game is amazing and the fact that you are mad about all the little things it just shows how important this game is to you. I also love this game, it's probably the best game there is on f95 (trust me I played a lot of them).

I love idea of different jobs, different routes of guys, etc. It's f**king amazing. The slow burning creates amazing tension, just look at this thread how active it is. I wish more game were like this and not some braindead guy fucking whole family after someone just tripping over some shit .

In dev. place I would be hurt seeing such braindead and mean comments (not all mean, some are constructive). Thank you for attention

In this part, many people reveal a difference in perception.

The reason people criticize LP is to ask him to make good games, not to ask him not to make them.

LP is criticized by people because he writes a shit story, with good material and good graphics.

There are no people on this forum who are not interested in this game or want it to be ruined.

It is LP himself who is ruining the game, not the players.

Players just play.

 

[菊花献给党]

In this part, many people reveal a difference in perception.

The reason people criticize LP is to ask him to make good games, not to ask him not to make them.

LP is criticized by people because he writes a shit story, with good material and good graphics.

There are no people on this forum who are not interested in this game or want it to be ruined.

It is LP himself who is ruining the game, not the players.

Players just play.

It seems that the author is trying to change

 

[ancienregimele]

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Out of genuine concern, Bud - if you keep hitting your forehead at the current pace, you'll end up with brain damage consistent with an average L&P's enabler from Patreon.

He's on my case as well. Time he issued some topical comments & views of his own, so I/we can have a right good "go" at them. Sorry, I meant so that I can analyse them & respond in a logical, reasoned manner. I still havn't given anybody a facepalm in 6 years of commenting, (often courting controversy), on this fractious thread, despite having the game ruined, (from my POV), in front of my eyes but facepalms with no explanation or counter views concerning AWAM, from L&P sycophants & fanboyz, keep on coming.

So "everyone's a critic" & criticism is easy....but obviously too hard for some. Something far easier than critical commentary is to criticise the critics with a facepalm. Where's the discussion in that? If AWAM is still wonderful, let's hear why. Criticism isn't just about expressing disapproval of some kind regarding a game, it can be mixed, or wholly positive. If perceived negativity isn't your thing, let's hear about what you regard as the over-riding positives.

Don't defend the Dev, rather give your own views. He doesn't need defenders, as L&P could'nt give a rat's arse what I or other pirates think. Why should he? Unless they're amongst the paying Patrons, that goes for everybody. Similarly don't issue calls to shut up &/or get lost, because that won't happen. Why not state why you like things as they are, or give an opinon on what could be altered or improved. After all, 'criticism is easy,' isn't it?

On the other hand, facepalms from certain individuals may indicate that the original critical comment(s) hit the target. Indeed, they irritated somebody so much that the thumb-jerk reaction was their only answer. Given that they count towards overall scores could be seen as a bonus.

 

[AlfredBundy4]

Sophia is expected to speak about the photoshoot and explain why she feels embarrassed. In points currently Dylan is above Sam. In intimacy development below. They should kiss like a real couple and strip off their clothes. Dylan has to reach a happy ending… and there are many options to that…
- HJ
- BJ
- Putting his dick between her legs (no penetration)
- Or by just imagining his interaction with Sophia

Let’s see

Resign yourself right now to the fact that none of that will happen. They'll make out, he will play with her tits, he'll suck on them a bit and she will - at most - rub his dick over his pants for a bit. Rest assured that dick skin will not touch a bit of her skin in any way, lmao.

 

[Bishop Robert]

I might be late with this, tried looking through old pages to find it:

Anyone mess with Sophias dress asset to see if there's alt ways for it to be worn or whatever (regarding straps, or skirt being lifted up)?

 

[kewlbigdan]

The focus on the kid's entry to the club cracks me up. Like THAT'S what you focus on as illogical?! Not that he's there with his mom that he's fondling and trying to bang because she isn't exactly denying the advances?
That or the fact that this woman goes hour by hour being molested or seduced by every man in town and then acts like it didn't happen moments later (what is months for everyone IRL between updates).
That or the fact that she can allow her teenage son's friend to make out with her in a hot tub, suck her bare tits in his room, remove her panties in his room but have nothing more happen before going to get a haircut like it's normal?! Lmao

That or how a teenage boy in her class has any power over her whatsoever and runs a gang of what looks like actual adult, hardened thugs?! That's not what people focus on, it's that her son got into a club. Ok.

I'm as tough on L&P as anyone but that's like the least illogical thing he has put into this story. In fact, I myself got into tons of clubs and bars starting at about 16yo. It's not even that hard at most places, tbh.

It's not that all the thing, and more, are not illogical. It's just that we have already commented ad_nausem on those before. The kid in the night club fondling a womans butt is current.
Everything is illogical in this story from the get go. Landing a commercial jet at 3000 meters starts it out. (Commented on in 2017) and the fact that it's only been 13 days since they moved here and Dylan went to boarding school for 1 night. You cant list all the illogical things.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Why are you all bullying developer? It's not a fucking holywood movie or some shit . This game is amazing and the fact that you are mad about all the little things it just shows how important this game is to you. I also love this game, it's probably the best game there is on f95 (trust me I played a lot of them).

I love idea of different jobs, different routes of guys, etc. It's f**king amazing. The slow burning creates amazing tension, just look at this thread how active it is. I wish more game were like this and not some braindead guy fucking whole family after someone just tripping over some shit .

In dev. place I would be hurt seeing such braindead and mean comments (not all mean, some are constructive). Thank you for attention

All you have mentioned is merely expressing opinions about the directions that might serve better this, after all, extraordinary game.
The only actual criticism towards developer stems from his complete lack of work ethics and moral scruples, narcissistic nature and unprofessional conduct. Far from bullying though.

 

[ancienregimele]

The point is that a game can't be everything. It is important to have a focus. That doesn't mean forgetting everything around it, just not losing sight of the focus either. If we're being honest, we have to say that L&P has simply opened up far too many side stories that he will never be able to tell to a degree where they really make sense. If everything is revisited at all, it will come across as an incoherent rehashing from as many as possible kinks and therefore make little sense. Just take the nursing home story as an example. To simply include something like this in AWAM provides no depth, but only distracts. If L&P would use more time here by removing other side stories, while at the same time increasing the connection to the main story, e.g. by having Ellie support Sopia as punishment (for something bad she may have done, eg. because she game Dylan viagra), then it would become a connected story that is more than just a useless kink run off. The same is true for lesbian LI. Here it would be better not to have so many girls, but one or max two, that Sophia then but really means something. Ultimately, too much is simply not an improvement but a deterioration.

Also, For the people who really dislike Incest, I really wonder if AWAM should be the right thing for them, because in the end it would only degrades the quality of the game. Even the fact that L&P includes a path in which Dylan is sent away, I think is a stupid idea. Who really does not like Incest, It's not only Dylan, but also Ellie, whose story would have to move into the background. I think that would be a really big mistake. Sophia would then just be there to emotionlessly fuck through as many kinks as possible.

Certainly, if I had just discovered AWAM last week, it's possible that I wouldn't have downloaded it, or more likely would have downloaded & played once, before deleting. I've tried most of the AWAM substitutes, or AWAM-inspired games & have kept none of them. AWAM for the first few years had, IMO, the potential to be (& was for a time), truly outstanding erotica. That's how it was from my POV & the pace of development meant that it didn't matter if some updates contained little or nothing of interest. When it slowed to a snail's pace & evolved into just another average teen porn game, due to last up to another 40 years, my enthusiasm waned.

Oddly, perhaps, none of the games I deleted were ditched because of the inclusion of incest but it is the case, however, that I just can't find it appealing. That may be a consequence of my tastes in porn being formed when it didn't have much of a presence & there was no "teen porn," only "porn" & that was for adults, even if it featured a cast of teens as large as that of AWAM, as did one of the first stories I remember reading, which featured a teacher & her class of evil, wayward students.

 

[Jude6]

Surprising to see how many folks are bummed by the exclusion of animation(s) from this update, to the point of calling the event a lost cause.
Back when L&P first announced a hard lean into animations there was vocal protest because of how much they'd bloat development time.

Thinking optimistically -
Maybe this is a good move, L&P could be setting up to optimize the animation part of dev time by having the animator work on the previous event, instead of the event upcoming.

It would mean having to roll back to see the new animation, but if L&P is thinking about this game in terms of how it will be experienced by future generations...
(like our great-great-grandchildren)

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Have you ever heard of "

You must be registered to see the links

" ? .Great song, bud. You should listen to it, bookmark it and give it another shot once the update is out Now, don't get me wrong. I'd like to see those things too, but L&P masters the blueball breathing technique since too long and killed every inch of hope in me, leaving only skepticism

In the words of John Lenon “You may call me a dreamer but I’m not the only one”