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:unsure: Romantic ;):D
I think, Aiden's going to implicate Janitor in one of his task. Don't forget that janitor blackmailed Sophia. :D
If that does happen between the Janitor/Aden/Sophia then you are forced into doing it,even if you stayed at home and never showed at the school
 

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L&P said that the janitor was an ex-ganster so yeah he can help sophie with aiden.
Good God, how many ways do we really need to solve the Aiden problem? Boarding school, the janitor, Morello, and maybe 2 or 3 more at this stage. I get that they probably want to include a lot of freedom of choice, but this is just way too much. :cautious:

Maybe that can happen that way if Sophia decides not to exchange phone numbers the first time they met them so they won't be having a second "museum date". The problem is that L&P already left that option open back then for those who would say yes to the invitation for the filthy path and points, so, yeah...L&P needs to set a conversation with Patricia in order to close it or make in the story that something happened to them, nothing too drastic and close the event with them right there without any more options.

Perhaps if there are a certain amount of good wife points or a number of Patricia's points...I don't know what flags he can set to cancel the second date with the museum guys without options.
I don't think they need to do anything with the code to deal with them. There were no specific points for them, like how we have Patricia and Ellie points, so there's nothing that needs to be canceled out. They just gave a couple of filthy good wife points, that's it. The only reason for their continued inclusion would be to add more filthy point and maybe even Patricia points, but surely these can be easily obtained without cluttering up the game with more useless characters. Maybe replace that event with a Sophia/Patricia shopping event, or something like that.
 
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Good God, how many ways do we really need to solve the Aiden problem? Boarding school, the janitor, Morello, and maybe 2 or 3 more at this stage. I get that they probably want to include a lot of freedom of choice, but this is just way too much. :cautious:
You make a game for every taste/fetish. So, as Dev, you put all in your game.
More if you dont have technical limitations. Good PC /Video-Card ...
 

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One of the things that occurred to me when I was helping (I think it was) dikdik48 decipher the walkthrough, was that only Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia (plus GW) were highlighted. So they may well be the only paths come endgame, and all the Filthy decisions leading up to the end are to sleep with one of those four.

Ellie and Patricia may end up being combined too, leaving only three routes, which doesn't seem that bad.
 

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One of the things that occurred to me when I was helping (I think it was) dikdik48 decipher the walkthrough, was that only Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia (plus GW) were highlighted. So they may well be the only paths come endgame, and all the Filthy decisions leading up to the end are to sleep with one of those four.

Ellie and Patricia may end up being combined too, leaving only three routes, which doesn't seem that bad.
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You make a game for every taste/fetish. So, as Dev, you put all in your game.
More if you dont have technical limitations. Good PC /Video-Card ...
Well, for one thing, this game doesn't have every taste/fetish, but mostly, there are ways to make Sophia more filthy and open to lesbian/incest/hetero cheating paths without having a dozen or more side characters to push her in those directions and dozens of separate and intersecting branches.

The bigger and more convulated this game gets the more I worry it will get abandoned once L&P realises just how much work they've given themselves and finds they can no longer cope with the scale.
 
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That's a question I asked earlier. We have a lot of characters.
For example: Vicky and Alyssa. For a lesbi-temptantion one would be enough.
So, why 2? Cuz we have a diff between Vicky and Alyssa. Have to be: Zack.
Or, Nathalie and Vicky. Cuz Nathalie is bisexual and young?
We have little differences between the characters and since Sophia is not a slut, she has to choose.
 
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That's a question I asked earlier. We have a lot of characters.
For example: Vicky and Alyssa. For a lesbi-temptantion one would be enough.
So, why 2? Cuz we have a diff between Vicky and Alyssa. Have to be: Zack.
Or, Nathalie and Vicky. Cuz Nathalie is bisexual and young?
We have little differences between the characters and since Sophia is not a slut, she has to choose.
Even so, we still don't need as many characters as we have because even with slight differences in their personality, the end goal is the same; to tempt Sophia into lesbian stuff and maybe even going full lesbian. One character would be enough for lesbian temptation, just like Heather in Jessica O'Neil's Hard News. Filthy points can be obtained by pretty much anything and don't really require so many female and male characters to obtain them.

The only thing they might have put themselves in a box with is hetero relationships because almost all the side guys are awful; Bennett, Aiden, Morello, even Sam doesn't feel right. It can make this game feel like it really pushes you towards lesbian and incest paths if you don't want her to be a good wife, but even then they would just have needed one or two nice guys to tempt her not a whole cadre of terrible guys.

At most, this game could've done just fine with 4 or 5 non-family characters to achieve the same result; Alyssa, Sam/Zac, Nathalie, Emma, and Bennett as a nice guy and not a douche.
 
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At most, this game could've done just fine with 4 or 5 non-family characters to achieve the same result; Alyssa, Sam/Zac, Nathalie, Emma, and Bennett as a nice guy and not a douche.
I suspect Sam is meant to be the nice guy in your list, and Nathalie is the non-incest lesbian.
 

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The only thing they might have put themselves in a box with is hetero relationships because almost all the side guys are awful; Bennett, Aiden, Morello, even Sam doesn't feel right. It can make this game feel like it really pushes you towards lesbian and incest paths if you don't want her to be a good wife, but even then they would just have needed one or two nice guys to tempt her not a whole cadre of terrible guys.
Men of the same age as Sophia are impotents :D or look like. Liam, Amber's husband, Carl. So, we need a hard dick ;)
 

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I suspect Sam is meant to be the nice guy in your list, and Nathalie is the non-incest lesbian.
Probably, but I still feel like a guy closer to her age would've been good too. The point is that these 4 or 5 characters represent everything that Sophia would have needed to influence her:
  • Emma - The young, innocent nubile girl exploring her sexuality
  • Nathalie - The bold, adventurous lesbian/bi girl with a thing for older women
  • Alyssa - The mature lesbian/bi woman with lots of experience
  • Sam/Zac - The virile young man who showers her with compliments and makes he feel desirable
  • A nice guy version of Bennett - A handsome, mature man a few years younger than her who offers more warmth and affection than her husband
Beyond them, I don't see when any other outside characters are necessary.
 

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Probably, but I still feel like a guy closer to her age would've been good too. The point is that these 4 or 5 characters represent everything that Sophia would have needed to influence her:
  • Emma - The young, innocent nubile girl exploring her sexuality
  • Nathalie - The bold, adventurous lesbian/bi girl with a thing for older women
  • Alyssa - The mature lesbian/bi woman with lots of experience
  • Sam/Zac - The virile young man who showers her with compliments and makes he feel desirable
  • A nice guy version of Bennett - A handsome, mature man a few years younger than her who offers more warmth and affection than her husband
Beyond them, I don't see when any other outside characters are necessary.
  • A nice guy version of Bennett - A handsome, mature man a few years younger than her who offers more warmth and affection than her husband,that could be morello,but yea there are too many
 

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  • A nice guy version of Bennett - A handsome, mature man a few years younger than her who offers more warmth and affection than her husband
That could be morello,but yea there are too many
Morello's a gangster, probably not the best or "nicest" guy she could fall for. Had Bennett not been an ass he could've filled the "nice, mature guy" role fine, even if he's not as well-off as Liam seems to be.
 

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Probably, but I still feel like a guy closer to her age would've been good too. The point is that these 4 or 5 characters represent everything that Sophia would have needed to influence her:
  • Emma - The young, innocent nubile girl exploring her sexuality
  • Nathalie - The bold, adventurous lesbian/bi girl with a thing for older women
  • Alyssa - The mature lesbian/bi woman with lots of experience
  • Sam/Zac - The virile young man who showers her with compliments and makes he feel desirable
  • A nice guy version of Bennett - A handsome, mature man a few years younger than her who offers more warmth and affection than her husband
Beyond them, I don't see when any other outside characters are necessary.
The nice guy closer to her age would be pointless, since why would she then cheat on Liam?

I suspect Ellie might be your Emma archetype, just on the incest path.
 

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About Morello, Sophia is a 38 years old marrige, two kids woman. Maybe, something could happen between Morello and Sophia, but ..... . In real life a mafia boss, casino owner, goes with other women
It's true, she wants another child so we can't exclude this path.
At least if he was just Casino owner ....
 

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Sophia doesn't have a dildo.So, we can say that she was not that desperate or her needs are not very high. With little that Liam gives her it was enough or so she thought. Sophia needs a good fuck experience to "discover" that it can be much better than with Liam.
It's possible that Sophia will accompany Dylan to his defense lessons? This Navy-Seal is ... tempting
 

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Morello's a gangster, probably not the best or "nicest" guy she could fall for. Had Bennett not been an ass he could've filled the "nice, mature guy" role fine, even if he's not as well-off as Liam seems to be.
That could of been morello's son,relative, since we have no real idea what he looks like and it would be a nice twist
 
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that could be morello,but yea there are too many
I thought Morello was actually older than Sophia, A man younger than her and a Mob Boss in these modern times? Nah, it's more likely that Morello is older to command the authority and own a Casino plus his other business.

I also agree, there are too many characters, at least L&P is trying or starting to implement the "end of storylines" method for such problems.

Morello's a gangster, probably not the best or "nicest" guy she could fall for. Had Bennett not been an ass he could've filled the "nice, mature guy" role fine, even if he's not as well-off as Liam seems to be.
I agree, Morello could be cultured, well-spoken, and wealthy but the "nicest"??? I don't know, he still needs to portray a Mob boss and not just a Casino Owner so he can't or shouldn't play the nice man Mobster.

The nice guy closer to her age would be pointless, since why would she then cheat on Liam?

I suspect Ellie might be your Emma archetype, just on the incest path.
Hehehe I know! The others must represent what Liam isn't and is not giving Sophia so there could be an opening in her mind for a "temptation" of what Sophia is either curious to experiment in some paths or missing experiencing, which includes incest with her children of course.

I suspect more like Nathalie than Emma.

I just can't see Ellie as sweet and innocent like Emma, exploring her sexuality? fine but innocent nubile? after what she likes in men and logan? hehehe nope, I don't buy that.

Emma wouldn't go to clubs or date men like Logan as Ellie does so I can't see her as innocent. That's why I think she is more like Nathalie even when she talks with Dylan she sounds like someone like Nathalie's personality or sexually matured and less shy than Emma. As for Ellie's lesbian version, I don't know, I don't know her path at all but I think she is the less shy compared to Julia or the other lesbian girl from the pool scene.
 
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Sophia doesn't have a dildo. ...
There's no evidence to confirm or deny that. She can tease Sam talking about her dildo, so she may actually have one.

That said, we find out in the Ellie route she prefers oral anyway. Also backed up by the GW sex scene day 11
 
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