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Ah, I thought maybe you meant he had a web page of his own and was posting things on it, like renders of other characters and things like that and that this was taking time away from AWAM.
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To be fair, I can see their point with that one. For one thing, you have to manage them and get them to do what you want, which is not easy, because there's no guarantee you'll get people who are on the same wavelength as you when it comes to how you want your renders to look and poses and expression you want you character to have. Also, there's no guarantee you'll find people local who can help as this would be much easier since getting help from someone in a different part of your country or a different country altogether means communicating long-distance and this can make collaborating even harder.IMHO, the main reason why people are disappointed and quite angry sometimes - empty promises from dev.
No promises - no complaints.
I'm curious to know, what excuses he's going to make just do not hire people?
The other thing is that you have to pay them, and whether you're making lots of money of just scraping by, it can be difficult to part with that money when, right now, you get to keep it all yourself and are perhaps trying to save up for better equipment. There's also a lot of trust involved too as you're trusting to the help you see the project through to the end, not try to steal or take too much credit for your work, and that they will take whatever deal you offer them, and L&P would probably just rather avoid all that hassle.
Just recognising their own limitations and realising that staring down the barrel of a 10 year development time is not good is all L&P really needs to do here, and then to adjust the story a little to still the story they want to tell but with fewer events and perhaps characters too.
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He makes an estimated 8-9K dollars each month. That's enough to hire a single employee. This brings a truckload of extra worries for him, so I'd say it's not worth hiring an employee below 15K dollars per month.IMHO, the main reason why people are disappointed and quite angry sometimes - empty promises from dev.
No promises - no complaints.
I'm curious to know, what excuses he's going to make just do not hire people?
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Of course, it's a risky business and who doesn't risk - doesn't drink champagne
In other hand - just don't set such impracticable goals.
I see it like this - don't promise impossible, do the job in your way and style, of course not everyone will be happy (it's natural) but at least you can get new patrons and fans.
But this situation looks like he just milking people with sooo long terms of update and lack of erotic action.
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15K is way too much to expect in next year or two or maybe ever.
Probably only around 10 devs are making that amount.
PhillyGames is better than L&P and NLT.That dev(stoper) is a beast in graphics department! He's THE best artist in adult games. L&p and NLT should be in 2nd place. This is my opinion based on all the games I've tried over the years. I wish someday these 3 can work together, adult gaming industry will go crazy!!
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To be honest, they never should have told people that there were going to be 30 playable days. The fact that we know it means we know how long this game is going to take and, yes, if we didn't know how long this was going to be it would probably feel worse, but we are unfortunately cursed with that knowledge now.Of course, it's a risky business and who doesn't risk - doesn't drink champagne
In other hand - just don't set such impracticable goals.
I see it like this - don't promise impossible, do the job in your way and style, of course not everyone will be happy (it's natural) but at least you can get new patrons and fans.
But this situation looks like he just milking people with sooo long terms of update and lack of erotic action.
I don't believe that L&P is milking this, just that they have impeccably high standards for their game and a relatively loftier story in mind than most adult VNs, because while others jump into the sex easily, L&P is trying to build up to something better and more meaningful which I commend them for, but it doesn't need to take 10 years to do that.
Take Jessica O'Neil, for example. There's a game with very good renders that are equal too or perhaps even greater than the quality of this game and features a female MC in a hetero relationship who gets tempted into all sorts of debaucherous stuff whilst also having some moral quandaries about it. Granted, she is younger than Sophia and doesn't have the same family dynamic, but all it took was one very persuasive and sensuous woman to get Jessica to have lesbian sex, and it took less than 2 years to get there yet while we're still waiting on that happening with Sophia.
JONHN is also a very well-written game and it builds up the intimacy in a similarly tense and erotic way as this does but in less time, so it shows that you can do a meaningful story without making it overly long and complex. L&P might just be overdoing it with the complexity of this game's story and if they toned that down a bit whilst still telling the same story, they could get this game done in half the time. As the saying goes, "less is more".
The dude is probably making 10K per month on Patreon even if his rig can't handle it he can rent out a render farm to render out all these images, he's just being lazy/greedy about it cause he knows once the game is done so is his income so he needs to milk the fuck out of these people so he can continue to pay for his plastic surgery for the next 9 years.
With this pace I just hope I can ask my grandkids as to how this game ended if it actually ends even then.
Because I don't think I myself will be completing this game anymore.
Because I don't think I myself will be completing this game anymore.
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Hey, i like your name. Both are my favorite adult games characters.
A day in the future:
L&P is 60 years old. He is on play day 20. And he still doing only teases (no f*ck, no BJ, no any other activities). He is giving his game to his Son to continue developing the game......
Few months later.... His Son:
-Dad, i successfully finished the game. - he enjoyed telling this to his father.
L&P:
-Son, how stupid you are...... I rised you, your brother and sister. We have 2 houses, 5 cars and i wanted to rise your kids with this game but you just finished.... How stupid you are....
PS. It might be funny, but L&P doesn't understand that if he increase his development tempo he will increase his incomes by at least 2 or 3 times....
L&P is 60 years old. He is on play day 20. And he still doing only teases (no f*ck, no BJ, no any other activities). He is giving his game to his Son to continue developing the game......
Few months later.... His Son:
-Dad, i successfully finished the game. - he enjoyed telling this to his father
.L&P:
-Son, how stupid you are...... I rised you, your brother and sister. We have 2 houses, 5 cars and i wanted to rise your kids with this game but you just finished.... How stupid you are....
PS. It might be funny, but L&P doesn't understand that if he increase his development tempo he will increase his incomes by at least 2 or 3 times....
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That dev(stoper) is a beast in graphics department! He's THE best artist in adult games. L&p and NLT should be in 2nd place. This is my opinion based on all the games I've tried over the years. I wish someday these 3 can work together, adult gaming industry will go crazy!!
I love those two.Hey, i like your name. Both are my favorite adult games characters.
I'd give anything to be Melinda's nephew and Sophia's son.
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I believe that's Foot of the Mountains. Total trash grindy game.
Bet
I love both games.
Better grinding in game and getting some hot aunt action in game than grinding here about the slow updates and no action in game.
I love both games.
... and here is the problem. It's like we're all watching a DIY House Restoration Show. Some of us just want to see Holes filled and the Family live happily ever after. But others want to see the Walls stripped down naked in all their glory, then plastered and licked into fantastic shape as well as getting them Holes filled and happy ever after.
One TV Show lasts 25 mins. The other is 2 Hours long. If you think aWaM is a 25 minute Show your never going to be happy. If you like your 2 hour Show you need to hide the TV Remote from the 25'ers who Channel Hop all night looking for more Hole filling.
One TV Show lasts 25 mins. The other is 2 Hours long. If you think aWaM is a 25 minute Show your never going to be happy. If you like your 2 hour Show you need to hide the TV Remote from the 25'ers who Channel Hop all night looking for more Hole filling.
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From his latest comments, Do you really think he's going to get help now? He already stated that he's not sure how help could do anything for him right now. So, I guess his plan is to tell us in his written statement, that he plans to draft soon, about his daily routine each day in the hopes that he will convince as many people as he can to see his side of the story. If he drafts that detailed statement and shares it with his members, I believe that just going to add fuel to the fire of why he either needs help or trim the fat of character in his game since he is deciding to carry 100% of the workload.
There are some members that want to see his game through no matter how long it takes. I respect their decision about how they want to support him, but then there are other members, who I believe are more realistic, and ask the question, Do you think he will be developing this game in 10-15 years? I'm one of the members that think he will burn out before that mark.
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all posts are written what the player wants, but put yourself in the author’s place, firstly I’m a creator and I either do well and get a high-quality game or I just lose my muse and interest, secondly I want my business to bring income (a dream of many do your favorite job and make good money with it), the person who received the basics of marketing understands that demand creates supply, if I make a good quality product and at the same time make good money, income grows from month to month, it can speed up or make some changes to break the whole system (and this game is already a brand on the market) and that the author should abandon the source of income, but what do you think? Just fulfill the request and break the system of generating income or continue according to an already worked out scheme? As long as the author receives material incentives from the labor expended, he will always put this as a priority.
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No I don't think that he will get help either because he will say that he will have to check there work and it would be quicker for him to do it himself.He has put himself in a difficult position with what he will and will not do concerning the game and also limited his options.
I am intrigued about his statement and what he has planned for the game but I dont really expect much and concerning the poll what a waste of time that will be ,.he could just cut down on renders and I sure that that would make one big difference to the times between up dates.
He must be able to see this or at least realise that he can't go on like this it crazy.Also crazy is why this all came up all of a sudden
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