VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Admiral Ramirez]

Well, for those of us who are paying patrons for some of these games, it's pretty self regulating. Like any service/subscription type of things. If you don't deliver what the supporters want, the supporters quit paying. Just that simple. No one keeps paying if they don't feel like they aren't getting their money's worth. Same way Dish and DirectV are losing millions of subscriber and other services are adding millions. I stopped supporting Milfy City and let the developer know why. I had no faith in him, he didn't seem to have any passion or belief in his game, and after no updates at all he started a new game in hopes of getting new money. I do believe in L&P and have had long exchanges with him, and his game is different enough I keep supporting. Not at a high level. I've made it clear my level of support will go up when he learns to put more product out at a faster pace. He's trying some things to do that.

As for the graphics, they're fine for me. I'm here for the story for this one. Interestingly, one popular game (that I support), Midlife Crisis has much worse graphics that AWAM but my wife and I enjoy that one also. In fact that developer even puts some in game jokes in on screens where he's struggled with the graphics.

I stopped supporting L&P last year it's obvious for me that he is pushing this game with his belly, he uses the tactic with long updates where he shows some potential good content but in the end the game is dull as ever with confusing storyline and no sex, he deceives his patrons with this you are a good example and how long ago this game was created? you barely see a pussy...in the beginning his idea of creating a game that depicted a paced storyline/corruption was good i liked it but so far he absolutely should have more content but no...the weird storyline and extremely slow corruption continues

 

[E = mc^2]

There has already been intimate scenes.
With Laim,Ellie,Patricis and Tyler

Gta vice city car sex is better then that

 

[sept0342]

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Almost done with the last scene. I'm pretty sure I will finish it today and then immediately start with the render editing.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Hey now, you forgot one......or conveniently left one out.........Bennet.
Sophia's foot caressed his lady killin' woman satisfier.

That's sexual abuse, not intimacy. Sophia didn't choose to do it.

 

[farrah]

Welp, not that I dont like her present boobs size but I liked it a lot more during the early stages.

Btw, where is farrah? I didn't see him talking anything lately. I hope you are fine farrah.

I'm fine, just very busy. Thanks for worry, miss ya all

 

[Mr Killer D]

I agree
i dont know about you.its to long for me to wait for the intimate scene's,like i said I've been playing from the start hope u understand

I agree that.
We can wait for intimate scenes in the story but we can't wait in the game development.
As an example :

If we have to play 1000 renders for sex scenesduring gameplay, that's fine (with me).
But iit's too long for me to wait 6/7 months to get 1000 renders in the game update


(Sorry for my bad english... its a google translate thing)

 

[Milflover1010]

The dev must speed up the development for the game as their are no animations while groping teasing and its just a pic novel and if the story is already planned then why taking so much time and also now he has better patreon and followers to update its technical stuff as he his earning better so he must need to fast the updates look at other dev they take time but atlest their are animated scenes like superalex amnesia, the awakening and other games

 

[honeyth1ef]

Hi! Is there any place where i can see his patreon posts , with out subscribing? thanks .

 

[truesatan]

Hi! Is there any place where i can see his patreon posts , with out subscribing? thanks .

most things are here, just search or go back some pages.

 

[codex35]

The dev must speed up the development for the game as their are no animations while groping teasing and its just a pic novel and if the story is already planned then why taking so much time and also now he has better patreon and followers to update its technical stuff as he his earning better so he must need to fast the updates look at other dev they take time but atlest their are animated scenes like superalex amnesia, the awakening and other games

It's been a long time since I saw any sensible criticism in here

 

[Jude6]

I have a request -

Can any of the lovely, helpful people who know how to dig through the game's code please tell me what the flags are for the Emma scene on day 18? (When Sophia speculates about getting Emma & Dylan together)

I've realized that in order for Emma to show up to Sophia's class that day you have to meet a minimum level of Dylan points/Dylan scenes - but for the life of me I haven't been able to what it is.

 

[RChandler]

I stopped supporting L&P last year it's obvious for me that he is pushing this game with his belly, he uses the tactic with long updates where he shows some potential good content but in the end the game is dull as ever with confusing storyline and no sex, he deceives his patrons with this you are a good example and how long ago this game was created? you barely see a pussy...in the beginning his idea of creating a game that depicted a paced storyline/corruption was good i liked it but so far he absolutely should have more content but no...the weird storyline and extremely slow corruption continues

Well, you made my point. Supporters who no longer feel they are getting their money's worth will leave. I've been around way to long to be "deceived" - I just started supporting him a couple of months ago, I've been a professional writer for over 20 years and was a writer in the computer gaming industry for years and have a lot of friends who were and are developers of some of the top games in the industry (RDR2, Witcher 3, etc.) and I've been chatting with L&P privately for a while. If what I see makes me decide what I'm getting vs. what I want from him doesn't match, he will stop getting my money. Really simple. You've already reached that point, though I assume you liked the game enough that you're still spending time reading this thread and enough originally that you paid money. But, again, so far I've gotten my $15 worth ($5 per month currently) and I'll make the judgement of how much I'm willing to pay for what I'm getting. I do that for several games at this point (and not just adult visual novels, other Patreaon and Kickstarter games.) I won't get emotional or personal about it (and I don't think you have either) any more than I would get emotional or personal about, say, a streaming video service I subscribe to.

 

[Bane71]

Hi! Is there any place where i can see his patreon posts , with out subscribing? thanks .

Sooner or later, everything that L&P shows on its Patreon is here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-fan-art.15218/page-274

Except those of his works, which he asks his patrons not to show to others.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Well, you made my point. Supporters who no longer feel they are getting their money's worth will leave. I've been around way to long to be "deceived" - I just started supporting him a couple of months ago, I've been a professional writer for over 20 years and was a writer in the computer gaming industry for years and have a lot of friends who were and are developers of some of the top games in the industry (RDR2, Witcher 3, etc.) and I've been chatting with L&P privately for a while. If what I see makes me decide what I'm getting vs. what I want from him doesn't match, he will stop getting my money. Really simple. You've already reached that point, though I assume you liked the game enough that you're still spending time reading this thread and enough originally that you paid money. But, again, so far I've gotten my $15 worth ($5 per month currently) and I'll make the judgement of how much I'm willing to pay for what I'm getting. I do that for several games at this point (and not just adult visual novels, other Patreaon and Kickstarter games.) I won't get emotional or personal about it (and I don't think you have either) any more than I would get emotional or personal about, say, a streaming video service I subscribe to.

As a very experienced writer, especially in the gaming industry, wondering if you would agree with my assessment that the problem with this game is the length of script (esp. lines of dialog) is inefficient at delivering substantive content? I don't recall a scene I thought should be cut outright, but if if you look through the script files there are scenes having 25-30 lines of dialogue about whether or not the boys need a ride to school, have time for breakfast, and so on. Multiply by 1.5 for the alternating GW/Filthy routes (some of dialogue and renders are used in both routes). That seems gratuitous given its significance to the plot, story, character.

 

[Old Dog]

Thoughts on the debate about the casino event and the problems that it caused.
Sophia showed bad judgement in leaving her husband alone at the casino.She could of been more supportive/understanding to her husband problem,instead of going to the night club for some fun.I don't blame Sophia 100% as I think Liam would of known the problems that going to the casino may cause.So Liam would of needed the support of his wife even more in this environment.Who had the idea of going to the casino in the first place as I cannot remember?

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Thoughts on the debate about the casino event and the problems that it caused.
Sophia showed bad judgement in leaving her husband alone at the casino.She could of been more supportive/understanding to her husband problem,instead of going to the night club for some fun.I don't blame Sophia 100% as I think Liam would of known the problems that going to the casino may cause.So Liam would of needed the support of his wife even more in this environment.Who had the idea of going to the casino in the first place as I cannot remember?

Bad Judgement? supportive/understanding?

That's all well and nice but remember the one who is really to blame in all of this...The PLAYER!!

WE wanted that to happen, WE decided whether Liam is left alone at the Casino either by going to the nightclub OR by just leaving and wait for him at home while watching tv, WE decided for Sophia to force Liam to go home in the good wife path...WE are the ones to blame.

Whatever happens, we're the ones who decide how things go for Liam, Sophia, and the family. Just like the "Devil" L&P just presents a situation, a temptation and we're the ones to decide if we go or the filthy route or lesbian or good wife, so everything can go to hell with the debt or everything can be saved by deciding to leave the Casino.

It all boils down to, whatever happens, is because we want that to happen and because in the end...we're all perverts hahaha and we want to see more filthy/unfaithful situations than a good wife situation, no wonder why Liam is the least favorite in the poll and yeah...I know that you, as well as some others, also play the good wife path so I'm not saying that "no one likes that path" just that it's not the main reason why we play the game hehehe.

 

[armion82]

Thoughts on the debate about the casino event and the problems that it caused.
Sophia showed bad judgement in leaving her husband alone at the casino.She could of been more supportive/understanding to her husband problem,instead of going to the night club for some fun.I don't blame Sophia 100% as I think Liam would of known the problems that going to the casino may cause.So Liam would of needed the support of his wife even more in this environment.Who had the idea of going to the casino in the first place as I cannot remember?

Liam was stupid to not playing Magic or Yu-Gi-Oh instead of going to casino.

 

[afterlights]

Thoughts on the debate about the casino event and the problems that it caused.
Sophia showed bad judgement in leaving her husband alone at the casino.She could of been more supportive/understanding to her husband problem,instead of going to the night club for some fun.I don't blame Sophia 100% as I think Liam would of known the problems that going to the casino may cause.So Liam would of needed the support of his wife even more in this environment.Who had the idea of going to the casino in the first place as I cannot remember?

I think it's reflective of their relationship, and there's probably history between them with this kind of situation. I think they're responses are fairly depicting real-life behavior. They can both be stubborn and entrenched in their perception and responses, and these consequences, especially borne from frustration, can play out for any route. (I realize I may be projecting.)

I suspect the Morello meeting is a catalyzer, rather than another blackmail route.

After meeting Morello Sophia could realize she shouldn't have walked away and Liam could admit he has a problem (Good Wife). Or, after meeting Morello Sophia could realize her increasing disinterest in Liam and begin to seriously consider pursuing newer recent experiences that excite her (Filthy, Lesbian).

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

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Almost done with the last scene. I'm pretty sure I will finish it today and then immediately start with the render editing.

And now he'll take a full month for those edits, translation and programming.

And even if he finished in the end of august he wouldnt launch it, why skip another 10k?
This is why I'll always respect the devs who have a per-launch payment plan.

 

[Old Dog]

Bad Judgement? supportive/understanding?

That's all well and nice but remember the one who is really to blame in all of this...The PLAYER!!

WE want that to happen, WE decide whether Liam is left alone at the Casino either by going to the nightclub OR by just leaving and wait for him at home while watching tv, WE decide for Sophia to force Liam to go home in the good wife path...WE are the ones to blame.

Whatever happens, we're the ones who decide how things go for Liam, Sophia, and the family. Just like the "Devil" L&P just presents a situation, a temptation and we're the ones to decide if we go or the filthy route or lesbian or good wife, so everything can go to hell with the debt or everything can be saved by deciding to leave the Casino.

It all boils down that whatever happens is because we want that to happen because in the end we're all perverts hahaha and we want to see more filthy/unfaithful situations than a good wife situation, no wonder why Liam is the least favorite in the poll and yeah...I know that you, as well as some others, also play the good wife path so I'm not saying that "no one likes that path" just only that it's not the main reason why we play the game hehehe.

Well after your post Lord_Xanatos I am putting the blame for Sophia's money troubles on you