VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

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Vanq

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Rythan25 said:
But she will sleep with some of the shittiest ones due to Patreons whining about what they want to see, regardless if it makes sense plot-wise or not....

While I never defended this game, I don't attack it either for being slow... I take it for what it is... L&P made Sophia super prudish to the point of a caricature... unless you do deep into Amish country, you'd struggle to find a woman like her.

So the fact that he announced what "fetishes" the game will have when completed I saw 1-3 that don't make a lick of sense to me based on her character... Sophia is well developed (hasn't really had much character growth, but we KNOW her)... Multiple times she has said she isn't attracted to black guys... yet mother f'n BBC is listed in the list of future fetishes...

How ? Why ? How does a prudish woman that gets mad for men giving her innocent compliments out of fucking nowhere in the span of 30 days (the time frame for the entire game) go from not being attracted to a physical trait (skin color), to worshiping it ? That's like me not liking fat women saying next month how fucking gorgeous I think Melissa McCarthy is, and how I would sex her into oblivion... just wtf...

Also before someone mentions the cursed word "optional", I dont give a fuck if its optional... I want a good story, you cant derail a story to satisfy a vocal minority... Even optional content needs to make fucking sense... Otherwise why not throw fat aliens in the game out of nowhere to fuck Sophia ? or some tentacle monster ? Or have the family get a pet dog, and have Sophia fuck it despite never saying she is into bestiality ?
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BBC is far more likely than any lesbian activity for someone in Sophia’s position at the start of the game. And there are several potential lesbian suitors and the elderly (not hating on these routes just giving more far-fetched examples from the game). Sophia never had any interaction with black men and her reaction in the shower scene shows it’s something she definitely would be into.

I think we have to live and let live. It’s going to be a long wait so I’ll take what I can get with the next few updates even though my preferred routes are the Aiden and straight cheating route (L&P has said multiple times that this route will only pay off very late in the game).
 
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so getting this thread back on to discussion, the only thing I am concerned about is lack of updates each year, the actual content in each update, absolutely happy with the content.

Wish the changelog had dates next to each update in the first post but there should be at least 4 updates each year, anything less is not good at all.

The content, hell yeah, really looking forward to next update and getting excited, as we nearly there and I do think this next update could balance AWAM more. if you consider what we have in-VN so far, lesbian stuff is far behind.
 
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Mr Killer D

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Notretsam said:
oh look, another account with very little activity trying to stir up trouble again in here, this happens a lot in here.
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2020 is a little bit harsh these days..

Ohh god i hate 2020:ROFLMAO:



Alley_Cat said:
Probably just finishing off the rendering. It's a little hard to work on Photoshop without a rendered image after all. But he can still work on P&T while rendering.
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Did he just deleted the progress image..?

Edit : Nope, Sorry
 
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Alley_Cat said:
Probably just finishing off the rendering. It's a little hard to work on Photoshop without a rendered image after all. But he can still work on P&T while rendering.
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Looks like 130+ scenes are yet to be rendered.
When it comes to render quality, L&P has the best rendering quality after stopper. So I think it will take some time to complete the remaining 20%.
 
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Mr Killer D said:
Looks like 130+ scenes are yet to be rendered.
When it comes to render quality, L&P has the best rendering quality after stopper. So I think it will take some time to complete the remaining 20%.
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Even if that were true about stoper, AWAM's story is better. For one, AWAM doesn't have forced sex scenes with the significant other (Connor, in the case of JOHN). There's also no necrophilia in AWAM like there is in JOHN (referring to the recent scene with Mr Parker)
 
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Alley_Cat said:
Even if that were true about stoper, AWAM's story is better. For one, AWAM doesn't have forced sex scenes with the significant other (Connor, in the case of JOHN). There's also no necrophilia in AWAM like there is in JOHN (referring to the recent scene with Mr Parker)
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ummm bro I think AWAM doesn't have a story yet.Just regular life.Maybe that gambling thing could be an introduction to the story.
 
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naughtynafz

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Mr.Gamer said:
Tbh, this game is one of the simplest games in this site. Eventhough it has many branches, there isn't a single place where we end up not having the required points.
Of course, there are some hidden points which Old dog, Alley_Cat and I mentioned in this very thread some two days back. And if you think it is difficult to find those posts, you always have the WT's where it is even more easy to find out how our choices might affect Sophia in the immediate future.
All you have to do is collect the filthy points(Red colored choices) and character points.

Here are some hidden filthy points that I could remember atm:

Disclaimer: These choices may not be in order, excuse me for that.

• When Sophia was trying the video game with Dylan and Sam, Sophia has to "Listen to sam", instead of Dylan. This will give us an extra filthy point.

• The next hidden point is, when Sophia was watching porn in tv she has to continue watching the porn so that Ellie can catch her. This choice will have impact in the bathroom scene with Ellie where they can end up kissing and caressing.

• When Sophia was in the trampoline with Sam and Dylan, she has to continue jumping in the trampoline with sam.

• The event in which Sophia teaches swimming for Sam and Dylan.
* First she has to "remain in her shirt".
* Then she should "let them try to swim".
This will gives us extra filthy points.

Likewise there might be some more hidden points as well. Anybody is welcome to correct my post if there is any mistake or they can even share their knowledge about the remaining hidden points.
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I think Dylan kiss before match while Sofia leaving him is considered as hidden too. That one point made my gameplay drasticly changed. Also not remind him to lock the bathroom door is a critical one too, as the yelling between bro sis make you think its a bad choice.
 
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RChandler said:
LOL! I have lived in Germany, France, Denmark, and Italy. As an adult, both single and after I married. I don't recall the woman in any of those countries thinking having sex with their children was "normal."
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Not sure if you are crazy or not.
You can be not prude and not fuck your children.
I think all those incest games are messing with your head as to what constitutes reality.


RChandler said:
I don't recall every woman or even most being Bisexual (much to the chagrin of my Bi wife.)
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Because that's what I most certainly claimed.
Are you into straw?

But it's okay, you and your bi wife can visit one of the countless swinger clubs in Germany (after the Pandemic), enter in broad daylight with no fear that the police is going to kick the door in because "Prostitution is illegal".
Which it also isn't in Germany.


RChandler said:
Women have a range of upbringings and backgrounds. In the game, all of the women don't have the same inhibitions that Sophia has, in fact her sister is a good example of a woman from the same family who is much less inhibited. We had some really good friends in Frankfurt, sisters married to very different kinds of men (one was a lawyer, one was a surgeon) and one sister ALWAYS flirted with my wife, and me, and her husband thought it was fun, the other sister was actually hotter looking but I remember her being embarrassed one time when we were all at an outdoor festival and it got chilly and her nipples were poking out and you could see them under her t shirt (and bra.) Sophie is a woman with a conservative streak. And honestly, for some of us, it is MUCH hotter seeing a woman who is inhibited gradually coming to grips with her inhibitions and her suppressed sexual feelings and peeling the layers off and slowly experimenting with her sexuality, than it is a woman who is a cartoon character in a game where she just acts like a porn actress "Pizza delivery? oooh, I'm out of change for a tip, let me let you F*** me in a a** instead"
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Good for you.

Now: Sophia actually becomes more prude as the game goes on. She was quite open in the Demo. (it's almost as if the Dev lured people in)
Furthermore even though Germans don't fuck their children non-stop doesn't mean that they are as prude as Americans.
Non-sexual nudity is far more normal than in the US.
That is a simple fact that you just have to accept.


RChandler said:
1. Just because someone making a game doesn't choose certain paths doesn't mean they are stupid. It just means they prefer a different path. You and I both know that just because someone doesn't think like we do doesn't mean they are "stupid."
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The Dev made the claim that this was a realistic game. As such I have always made assessments based on that claim.
That he is unable to fulfil this claim is his problem.
 
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Blockout said:
But it's okay, you and your bi wife can visit one of the countless swinger clubs in Germany (after the Pandemic), enter in broad daylight with no fear that the police is going to kick the door in because "Prostitution is illegal".
Which it also isn't in Germany.
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What has swinging to do with prostitution? Do you even know what you're talking about at all?
 
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Blockout said:
The Dev made the claim that this was a realistic game. As such I have always made assessments based on that claim.
That he is unable to fulfil this claim is his problem.
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Neither did he when he said he'll hire another guy when i reach this goal!
 
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RChandler said:
LOL! I have lived in Germany, France, Denmark, and Italy. As an adult, both single and after I married. I don't recall the woman in any of those countries thinking having sex with their children was "normal."
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Wow! Man, I don't think you realize that this is just a game, not real life simulator? Besides, even in real life there is lot of incest, where parents have sex with their sons or daughters... and if the incest is consensual case, there is no rule breaking, virtually speaking, of course.
 
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