- Thread starter CobraSGT
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- Aug 8, 2017
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Yawn. This game may get interesting by update 12. Im all for building up to sex, but this is getting ridiculous. This guy should spend less time on so many renders per scene and more time progressing the story. Cant help but feel he's milking it
Great classy game.
One of my favorites.
No sex- but lots of erotic moments which are far better then some sexscenes in other games.
Unique.
One of my favorites.
No sex- but lots of erotic moments which are far better then some sexscenes in other games.
Unique.
- Aug 17, 2016
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Not sure if I do. Atm he's at six weeks dev time for one additional, playable day. If if he could stick to 4 weeks like he actually said he would that still would be 2,5 more years until the game's done.
Nevertheless that is his plan. He alone will have to decide if it's worth it.
So no, I am not sure. The only thing that I am sure is that, overall, I really like what he puts out -and it would be a shame if he doesn't finish it.
- Aug 15, 2017
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i doubt he will get that amount the patreons already started seeing the big picture. This game the way its going its gonna get abandoned bytheend of the year
- Mar 28, 2017
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You forget that when he use 4 weeks for update we get half day.So this way we will need even more time for 25 days-50 updates,50 months.
The real problem is he put a realy big milestone.
12K for a game/not sure we can call it a game/ with almost nothing on sex stuff after 8 months is more than a dream,it's madness.
I stilll hope he will continue to make the game even if he don't reach 12K or 8K.
- May 28, 2017
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Information about Vers. 0.05 and some important intermediate information
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- Oct 1, 2017
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The amount of opportunities in this game that are wasted is beyond believe.
I write for a living and while i like a certain build up for once the dev already takes to long to build up his characters and already needs to deliver some action.
To give some examples for the incest part of the game and how to improve it.
Including the devs funny "good and filthy" options.
Son in the Shower.
"Good"
The Mother won't look and takes her phone. Apologizes and leaves. Reminds the Son of locking the door again.
*Filthy"
The Mother does look doesn't look away but glares for a moment to make it akward for the son and then forgets her phone. Doesn't apologize and doesn't remind the son of locking the door so some "brother x sister action buildup" takes place.
Then when the son brings the phone she thanks him with a kiss on the cheek and a lean in with some cleavage.
Or the swimming part.
"Good"
The Mother teaches both boys how to swim and can decide to focus on either of the boys and teach them how to swim.
She can give a gift to one of the boys who she thought did better like a kiss on the cheek or a hug or something like that.
"Filthy" (The part we all are here for)
The Mother again focus on one of the boys or both.
"One boy"Teaching how to swim. When the boy arrives he hugs her close pressing his chest against her breasts. Afraid of drowning he keeps holding on to her waist and pulls himself even closer. She can start to feel his crotch growing. If she doesnt decide to stop it here she can decide to let him hold her butt while she keeps them above water level. Until ofc one of the boys gets jealous and stops it.
Both boys" Teaching both of them how to swim which both learn pretty fast. At least to a degree where both can actually swim a bit around before getting tired. They fool around a bit when both realize this is harder then expected and the only thing to hold on to is the women in the middle of them.
In Sandwich style on in the front and one in the back they hold on to her to not drown. She busy getting both boys to calm down and not to drown herself has now both crotches pushed against her and one boy to be the lucky one who actually drowns in her cleavage.
As both are calm again and realize the position they are in they start to push a little bit in certain areas. She doesnt stop them right away but enjoys the moment a bit before she decides that they could be seen by others any minute now.
The build up was over at day 2. If you write a book you can't use 20 pages to introduce your MC and you can't do that in a game as well.
This game has so much potential but stop this freaking build up thing. We care about 4 or 5 characters and thats about it as those games are sex games not the next fantasy novel by tolkien.
I hate when a good story is wasted because the dev has no freaking idea on how to make the build up transition into the main plot.
And before you ask no i dont write for a living in english.
I write for a living and while i like a certain build up for once the dev already takes to long to build up his characters and already needs to deliver some action.
To give some examples for the incest part of the game and how to improve it.
Including the devs funny "good and filthy" options.
Son in the Shower.
"Good"
The Mother won't look and takes her phone. Apologizes and leaves. Reminds the Son of locking the door again.
*Filthy"
The Mother does look doesn't look away but glares for a moment to make it akward for the son and then forgets her phone. Doesn't apologize and doesn't remind the son of locking the door so some "brother x sister action buildup" takes place.
Then when the son brings the phone she thanks him with a kiss on the cheek and a lean in with some cleavage.
Or the swimming part.
"Good"
The Mother teaches both boys how to swim and can decide to focus on either of the boys and teach them how to swim.
She can give a gift to one of the boys who she thought did better like a kiss on the cheek or a hug or something like that.
"Filthy" (The part we all are here for)
The Mother again focus on one of the boys or both.
"One boy"Teaching how to swim. When the boy arrives he hugs her close pressing his chest against her breasts. Afraid of drowning he keeps holding on to her waist and pulls himself even closer. She can start to feel his crotch growing. If she doesnt decide to stop it here she can decide to let him hold her butt while she keeps them above water level. Until ofc one of the boys gets jealous and stops it.
Both boys" Teaching both of them how to swim which both learn pretty fast. At least to a degree where both can actually swim a bit around before getting tired. They fool around a bit when both realize this is harder then expected and the only thing to hold on to is the women in the middle of them.
In Sandwich style on in the front and one in the back they hold on to her to not drown. She busy getting both boys to calm down and not to drown herself has now both crotches pushed against her and one boy to be the lucky one who actually drowns in her cleavage.
As both are calm again and realize the position they are in they start to push a little bit in certain areas. She doesnt stop them right away but enjoys the moment a bit before she decides that they could be seen by others any minute now.
The build up was over at day 2. If you write a book you can't use 20 pages to introduce your MC and you can't do that in a game as well.
This game has so much potential but stop this freaking build up thing. We care about 4 or 5 characters and thats about it as those games are sex games not the next fantasy novel by tolkien.
I hate when a good story is wasted because the dev has no freaking idea on how to make the build up transition into the main plot.
And before you ask no i dont write for a living in english.
- Mar 28, 2017
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OK so at least we will get 0.5 faster than normal but why if that update will be so small don't unite it with 0.4?And we all told you many times to not go with 30 characters.There is simply no way to add 30 full fledged characters in the game without wasting 1 year only on introduction.
i agree with you dev is destroying a fabulous story and i think he has no idea how to guide it....
- Feb 17, 2018
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Here is the latest communication from L&P. Consider reading it and pausing before comment. Haste makes for bad posts.
Information about Vers. 0.05 and some important intermediate information
Jun 19 at 3:13pm
1) I've already mentioned that at playable day 7 some main story plots will finally start (Dylan, Ellie).
That's why the next update will be as rapid and short as possible. It'll be the entire playable day 6 and I think highly probable it won't even have 100 renders, just to speed it extremely up. So, it's not a promise, but if I'll start with the development of the next version on Thursday 21, then I could be finished with it in about 2,5 weeks and finally start with the more interesting and lucid game parts. Actually even this update has also practically no really "unimportant" renders! The scenes are going much smoother and quicker in each other now!
2) I know that there are mainly casual events at the moment. But this is also how it was planned. First some flirting, teasing, groping and casual events for a start, where you also become acquainted with the characters. Then it will get more precise with some characters. After all don't forget we're just at playable day 6 of 30 with the next update.
Yes, the whole build up came out much more complex than I've expected it to be, but this is also my very first project and it is a matter of experience! AND: This is a game (VN) in development where everything will get more and more lewd and lucid slowly. This is not the development of some stupid, senseless, unrealistic porn episodes for every update!
But I have still to admit, that maybe I planned the project too complex with too many characters what leads to too many plot lines and at the end is just too much for one single developer, who's especially trying to make very elaborate, detailed, authentic... just perfect art, what is just my passion and obsession! That's why I've also deleted (or shortened) some character plot-lines and will concentrate myself soon mainly on Dylan, Ellie, Sam and from playable day 9 on also the teacher plot. Many plots are interwoven together. But there will still also be little story lines with the new friends of Sophia (Alyssa and Vicky). And of course there will still be some side events. And also for the second choosable side job, which starts at playable day 11, I've spent a lot of time to write it and for me this is one of the best parts of this VN!
What concerns the first side job, I don't know how people are into grandpa/younger woman stuff. Maybe I'll do a poll if people want to see where it goes at all or if I should cancel it completely.
3) The subway scene in the current version is exactly like it should be! I didn't want Sophia to get raped or extremely groped now! This villain plot line is still not over! It will be important what Sophia decides to do the following day! So, like I already said, there are almost no scenes, which won't have an effect on the further story development!
4) Many who are complaining about slow development should first of all consider that I'm a single developer doing a work for several people! But nevertheless there are already !!2700!! practically perfect to the smallest detail and very elaborate, manifold renders created! And the language I know perfectly is German. So I always have to translate all this text into English, what also takes some time unfortunately!
And I also don't need so much time like some people are claiming! The last version I've started to develop normally was about at the 12th of May. Firstly I had to do a little break after working many months without a pause. And then I also had to replace my GPU's. So I needed 5 weeks (6 1/2 weeks all together) for the last update and not 2-3 months (8-12 weeks) like I've often read.
5) I've also read hundreds of times in forums that Sophia is too "prude". Well, I guess many people are accustomed that women in these kind of games are all stupid sex-toys and whores! Sophia is more rational, kind and is acting like a "normal" woman! And normal, intelligent women are not very amused about getting sexually harassed by strangers or talking about lewd stuff with their sisters! The idea was, that such a "normal" woman gets more and more relaxed to some filthy decisions with the story or getting corrupted to some decisions and even takes pleasure in it! And you also have the chance to choose the filthy reaction, what doesn't make her so "prude" even yet! After all she hasn't done anything so extremely filthy yet, to being a filthy whore who does everything with everyone now! And some elements are deliberately a little raised to make the change more evident later!
6) Last but not least: I decided to give access to vers. 0.04 and next version 0.05 in a "1 day procedure" for my patrons! From vers. 0.06/0.07 on it'll be normal again.
Information about Vers. 0.05 and some important intermediate information
Jun 19 at 3:13pm
1) I've already mentioned that at playable day 7 some main story plots will finally start (Dylan, Ellie).
That's why the next update will be as rapid and short as possible. It'll be the entire playable day 6 and I think highly probable it won't even have 100 renders, just to speed it extremely up. So, it's not a promise, but if I'll start with the development of the next version on Thursday 21, then I could be finished with it in about 2,5 weeks and finally start with the more interesting and lucid game parts. Actually even this update has also practically no really "unimportant" renders! The scenes are going much smoother and quicker in each other now!
2) I know that there are mainly casual events at the moment. But this is also how it was planned. First some flirting, teasing, groping and casual events for a start, where you also become acquainted with the characters. Then it will get more precise with some characters. After all don't forget we're just at playable day 6 of 30 with the next update.
Yes, the whole build up came out much more complex than I've expected it to be, but this is also my very first project and it is a matter of experience! AND: This is a game (VN) in development where everything will get more and more lewd and lucid slowly. This is not the development of some stupid, senseless, unrealistic porn episodes for every update!
But I have still to admit, that maybe I planned the project too complex with too many characters what leads to too many plot lines and at the end is just too much for one single developer, who's especially trying to make very elaborate, detailed, authentic... just perfect art, what is just my passion and obsession! That's why I've also deleted (or shortened) some character plot-lines and will concentrate myself soon mainly on Dylan, Ellie, Sam and from playable day 9 on also the teacher plot. Many plots are interwoven together. But there will still also be little story lines with the new friends of Sophia (Alyssa and Vicky). And of course there will still be some side events. And also for the second choosable side job, which starts at playable day 11, I've spent a lot of time to write it and for me this is one of the best parts of this VN!
What concerns the first side job, I don't know how people are into grandpa/younger woman stuff. Maybe I'll do a poll if people want to see where it goes at all or if I should cancel it completely.
3) The subway scene in the current version is exactly like it should be! I didn't want Sophia to get raped or extremely groped now! This villain plot line is still not over! It will be important what Sophia decides to do the following day! So, like I already said, there are almost no scenes, which won't have an effect on the further story development!
4) Many who are complaining about slow development should first of all consider that I'm a single developer doing a work for several people! But nevertheless there are already !!2700!! practically perfect to the smallest detail and very elaborate, manifold renders created! And the language I know perfectly is German. So I always have to translate all this text into English, what also takes some time unfortunately!
And I also don't need so much time like some people are claiming! The last version I've started to develop normally was about at the 12th of May. Firstly I had to do a little break after working many months without a pause. And then I also had to replace my GPU's. So I needed 5 weeks (6 1/2 weeks all together) for the last update and not 2-3 months (8-12 weeks) like I've often read.
5) I've also read hundreds of times in forums that Sophia is too "prude". Well, I guess many people are accustomed that women in these kind of games are all stupid sex-toys and whores! Sophia is more rational, kind and is acting like a "normal" woman! And normal, intelligent women are not very amused about getting sexually harassed by strangers or talking about lewd stuff with their sisters! The idea was, that such a "normal" woman gets more and more relaxed to some filthy decisions with the story or getting corrupted to some decisions and even takes pleasure in it! And you also have the chance to choose the filthy reaction, what doesn't make her so "prude" even yet! After all she hasn't done anything so extremely filthy yet, to being a filthy whore who does everything with everyone now! And some elements are deliberately a little raised to make the change more evident later!
6) Last but not least: I decided to give access to vers. 0.04 and next version 0.05 in a "1 day procedure" for my patrons! From vers. 0.06/0.07 on it'll be normal again.
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He better play it now and skip 0.5
So this month only left to wait for Melody 0.3,Babysitter 0.1.3 and Lost in Temptation 0.2?
Just finished playing the new update and really liked the Trampoline and Video Game Scene. And the future tells me that Sophia gonna clean some dirty geezer di*ks @ the new part time job . Nice update but full of blue balling. Hoping to get some steamy action in the next update.
P.S. Cant wait to see Sam accidentally F*cking the hell out of Sophia. Cause everything in this game occurs as an accident
. Nice update but full of blue balling. Hoping to get some steamy action in the next update.P.S. Cant wait to see Sam accidentally F*cking the hell out of Sophia. Cause everything in this game occurs as an accident