ancienregimele

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You could handle events like Aiden's task with a montage, but only if the tasks are incremental steps. If Aiden is slowly corrupting Sophia then it may make sense to do a montage if it includes two small incremental steps. We don't need months of development time spent on the next task or two if they're small steps- it may make more sense to show them in a montage to establish they happened and then get to the next task that is a significant step. This montage could also include small but important steps in the other relationships like with Dylan or Alyssa- steps that can't be skipped, but also don't warrant months of waiting.

But this doesn't really change anything about the 30 day window. Maybe 30 playable days, but for Sophia to be completely corrupted in just 30 days, then things really need to start happening quickly.
It looks as though, one way or another 5 tasks are being compacted, i.e. 4-8, which I've speculated elsewhere could be ever more revealing selfies, or similar. It's a shame from my POV. If we are going down this route, I can think of other parts of the story I would wish to be prioritised for abbreviation first but I'm not in the mood for a debate & so won't say which ones. What I will say & have said before, is that there needs to be a termination of several glacially-paced stories, my favourite for this would be the first side job, where the two older men could simply get better & move on. It's a win-win & realistic.

We know that the museum duo of Haru & whatshisname are going to be written out after their next appearance. This is a step in the right direction but Sophia & Patricia could just have been too busy & had to call off the visit, leaving no reason for the young gentlemen to return at all. Why waste time, we know nothing significant is likely to happen with them....don't we?

I do understand the benefit, from the story-teller's viewpoint, of having numerous characters, all with potential & within the MC's wider circle of friends, colleagues & acquaintances. This is also realistic but there are just so many. I'm one of the apparent minority who didn't want the Bennett storyline reducing but why reduce it, why not just let him get a better job somewhere else & have done? Again from my perspective, knowing that he's to become superfluous has already spoiled the tension, so why carry on with a lame-duck blackmailer?

Incidentally, Sophia could have taken a case against the school for unilaterally reducing her hours on the day she took up her duties. It's not just bad personnel/HR practice, it's breach of contract & it's serious. (I speak as one who appeared before a tribunal accused of that very thing, so I know exactly what I'm talking about). Still, I suppose she didn't want to rock the boat so soon but come on, she would have been looking for another full-time teaching role from Week 1. (IMO, she has even more motivation to do this now........). So, that leads to thoughts about her secondary teaching role, working for a strict Catholic professor. I just don't know what that's all about.....enough now!
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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...A very reasonable post with fair ideas...
I agree with your points. The first job has gone nowhere, and at this point would need too many resources (development time, and in-game time) to justify its continuation in this crowded field. I had actually forgotten all about the guys from the museum- they could easily just never be addressed again and I don't think anyone would care. The second job seems too fresh to cut already, but it was probably a mistake to introduce it. It could have been the 1st (and only) job, and we would have had a couple of opportunities to develop it already. (Am I correct that the 2nd job has only made one appearance so far?) I also wonder about the Morello storyline, because it seems like it's going to be a big one and need a lot of room for growth. I'm not sure I would cut it, but by itself it could be the main plot of most games so to make it another additional storyline seems like a big undertaking. I didn't dislike the Bennett story, but it did feel redundant if you were also doing Aiden's story. But if you're going to make cuts, at some point you're going to have to make some tough decisions.

L&P seems like a person with a vision, and I think that's great, but I think he could really use the help of a collaborator. Someone that could act as an editor to his many ideas, shaping and adjusting them to fit their capacity. Few games have this many characters and permutations for romance. Even fewer maintain the quality of L&P's work. And none do all of that while on a one-person team. L&P has made it very clear that he won't/can't bring in another person, and I can understand the hesitation. But if that's the case then something needs to give, and it's going to end up being some of the superfluous storylines.

As for Aiden's next couple of tasks, if they really are just selfies then that storyline really does need to pick up the pace. It may not be realistic, but we're running out of time and after all this time a simple selfie of Sophia's cleavage is underwhelming to the audience and uninteresting to the story.
 

roflfoptor

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Why does anyone still support this guy? Still no sexual content outside of the good wife path and there are so many subplots that he's already abandoned some and his supporters are now discussing which other subplots should be abondoned just to get some fucking momentum going with this game. The issue isn't "vision," it's that this guy is trying to do way too much. Honestly, that's always been the problem.

Everytime I see that there have been a few updates, I check back to see if there's actually any porn in this porn game yet and I find people sharing photos of sort of sexy renders with little-to-no nudity and no sex, or trying to brainstorm ways L&P can move faster if he were a better dev...
 

Notretsam

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I'm beginning to question is the 30-day timeline. With so many storylines in the game, I'm not sure how they can be finalized in just a 30 day window. I know that development has been slow and that many people are upset by that, but realistically I'm not sure he can wrap it up in that 30-day window. The game's story seems to be laid out very deliberately, and while it has take YEARS to get this far, in the game world it has been less than a month. With only like 10 days left in the month (and not all of them playable), how far can we really expect Sophia to go in 30 days?

I suspect that L&P is going to need to change the timeline. The game may not be any longer- but the time jump may be more substantial that the last one. Maybe there's a montage that helps move the game along?
I agree and have been wondering this myself.

As armion82 pointed out, there are more than 10 days to go but to really unlock the full potential in this VN, I just don't see how it can in days left.

However, here is my theory and am concerned I might be right about this.

All characters with exception of Dylan and Ellie are essentially pawns to help corrupt Sophia enough, so she will have sex with Dylan or Ellie.

I think there is a chance we may need to choose who Sophia has sex with, Dylan or Ellie.

If I'm right, then there is plenty of time left to build to that and it does make a certain amount of sense, it would explain why there are so many characters added to a 30-day story.

I seem to recall L&P has stated Sophia have sex with more than one person? Not sure if I remember right but I do think the original idea was my theory I stated in this post.

I think all the "unnecessary complaints" regarding the lack of sex scenes have potentially changed L&P's original vision, which would be a shame as L&P should make what he wants.

There is time for Sophia to have sex with more than 1 person and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe L&P has changed his vision or it was never his attention to build to just one sex scene, and the 2nd half of the 30 days is where Sophia has sex most days but not every day.

All I know right now is, I don't see her having sex with anyone else but her husband for a few more days at least and that will depend on what happens on them days.

I see a scenario where she has sex with pretty much everyone if we choose that to happen but don't see that happening within 30 days.
 

PaxHadrian17

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The update stuck at 75% for 3 week i think that update will not complete in December
The game stat's for completion (created scenes/rendered scenes) have been getting update by 5% increments about every 3-4 days (on average). If you bothered to check the thread, you would see this as these stats are published here by Old Dog and others each time they get updated on his Patreon page. If you want to doubt a December update timeframe - okay - but at least use facts. Too many people bash L&P here, giving/quoting information that is patently wrong - many because they are not getting their free stuff fast enough for them. Many of us appreciate a well-thought out post using facts versus conjecture or numbers pulled out of no where.
 

V.scaletta

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The game stat's for completion (created scenes/rendered scenes) have been getting update by 5% increments about every 3-4 days (on average). If you bothered to check the thread, you would see this as these stats are published here by Old Dog and others each time they get updated on his Patreon page. If you want to doubt a December update timeframe - okay - but at least use facts. Too many people bash L&P here, giving/quoting information that is patently wrong - many because they are not getting their free stuff fast enough for them. Many of us appreciate a well-thought out post using facts versus conjecture or numbers pulled out of no where.
thank you bro
 

V.scaletta

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Why would he complete in December if he can drag it a few more days to push it until January 3 or 4 and his patreons pay one more time?

This dev is so obvious in what he's doing that at this point there are no surprises.
cash is cash
I love your fanart bro very good
 
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